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[Mullpat]

1. Is the end better now?
Yes. At least that's the ending Bioware should have given us in the first place. It's still crap in my opinion, but it has has the merit of expaining a little bit more the impact of the choices. Now the artistic integrity argument is at leat valid, if it is that what they chose to serve us.

2. Is it the end we deserve?
No. Personally I had such great expectations in this series. When Bioware promises us that all our actions will affect the ending, I expect that to happen. It was never the case, now it's a red, green, blue and no explosion ending. All we did in all of the series didn't matter, at leat not the way I thought it would. I could probably write for an hour what I expected from Bioware, but it doesn't matter in the end.

[Creston918]

Yeah, I liked it. Good enough to forgive, eh, it was mostly their attitudes towards their fans that I was annoyed at.

I'll be very, very wary of future Bioware games. They're no longer on pre-order or anything, but if they get good word of mouth, I'll still get them. At least the Mass Effect universe isn't dead to me now.

[shepskisaac]

Short and simple - yes

[Miles_E]

Forgiveness? Not really, to be honest.

I will commend them for retconing the extreme plot holes, but overall the still existing reliance on that asinine plot device Catalyst and the utter meaningless of the EMS means that I still feel my choices have meant little. Plus, while they put some good effort on the evacuation scene, the extended ending was still nothing more than a slideshow and voice over...amazing.

Oh well, guess Mass Effect can be added to my list of series that started well, but then fizzled out.

[Wesker1984]

wicked_being wrote...

If they add a new ending...with that new discovery of Leviathan of Dis files in the EC file..then I'm changing my initial response of "it's possible" from "it's a bit more possible."

The Leviathan of Dis is explained as a billion years dead reaper by Balak in ME3. If you want to have this option of dialogue you need to complete one of ME1 DLCs, chosing to let go Balak then import your save games in ME2 and ME3 and do the side mission with Balak.

And i loved the Extended Cut ending and it worth the download.

Modifié par Wesker1984, 27 juin 2012 - 05:47 .

[ToaOrka]

Most definitely.

[CuHnadian]

It's still filled with huge plot holes and continuity issues. Is it a lot better? Yes but that doesn't excuse everything else. I'll probably still be buying Bioware games but I certainly won't be pre-ordering them anytime soon.

[sth88]

No. The improvements of the EC might, in time, be enough for me to get through additional playthroughs, but these improvements are nonetheless outweighed by the thematic brokenness of the whole ending's concept of Synthetics vs. Organics, and as such, I cannot forgive Bioware, nor spend another penny on any of their products ever again, nor encourage anyone else to buy from them. Bioware has lost me as a customer forever. Since they have made clear that the EC is the full extent to which they will change the ending, nothing they do from here on out can make up for buthcering the franchise I cared more about than any other franchise in gaming.

[MakeMineMako]

Forgive the mistakes in formulating the original ending? Yes.

Forgive the attitudes of some of their employees and site staff during this mess? No.

Overall, the EC made this mess of an ending tolerable/decent enough to play through the game multiple times. However, I will still be very cautious regarding purchases of any potential future games set in the Mass Effect universe (the only Bioware franchise I ever game a damn about playing).

[Traderjoeeeee]

No, I will not forgive Bioware or EA for what they've done to this game. I'll forgive the people, but I'm done with these developers.

[shumworld]

Yup it did.

[devSin]

As long as Mike brings back the whole squad (with new content) for all the single-player "mission" DLC, then I'll definitely be considering those as they come up. I'm not totally sold on the extended cut, but it's sufficient for me to want to support more time with the squad.

Other single-player DLC may not be as easy a sell, even though I'll probably get it all eventually (just not at or even near release).

Forgiveness isn't relevant. I have not and will not forget the failure of the original ending, and I'll be carefully scrutinizing the next game from this team before even considering purchasing it.

Modifié par devSin, 27 juin 2012 - 06:35 .

[UltmtBiz]

I'm satisfied with the EC, but excluding free dlc, they have handled this game, pre and post release, pretty poorly. I really do appreciate the free dlc and am glad they created it for us. But they broke several promises they made before the game came out and then didn't even address those statements later on. So much for the big payoff for being true to your ME1 LI among other things. They have regained my interest, not my trust.

[tenojitsu]

I liked all of them very much, just took a while to forget about the original endings. I had to play/watch all them a few times but now I definitely dig them. It might have helped that I haven't had a thought about me In a few months, so the old endings weren't as fresh in my head as oher people's. Like I said, once you forget about the old ones and start to notice all of the subtle differences they paint a much brighter picture overall

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

Hopeful enough endings, particularly with my fav (destroy max ems). I think EC did a satisfactory enough job.

[tenojitsu]

UltmtBiz wrote...

I'm satisfied with the EC, but excluding free dlc, they have handled this game, pre and post release, pretty poorly. I really do appreciate the free dlc and am glad they created it for us. But they broke several promises they made before the game came out and then didn't even address those statements later on. So much for the big payoff for being true to your ME1 LI among other things. They have regained my interest, not my trust.

Perfectly said. I am nice again interested in ME, but not 100% sure about the series or BW. I do give them credit for doing the best possible job to salvage this original mess without it taking a year.

[Vaktathi]

Is it better? A bit.

That said, Refusal appears to be a passive-aggressive swipe at unhappy players (much like most of Bioware's response, I don't think I've ever seen such a reaction from a company before...) and the whole thing doesn't solve the core issue of it all being a copy-paste of the ending to DeusEx built on a nonsensical premise.

In all honesty I never expected Shepard to survive, even back to ME1. Shepard would basically be living in his/her own shadow forever after that. But the entire premise, explanation, and execution of the endings, even the EC ones, just does not fit the narrative, story, or reader-writer contract of the trilogy up to that point. It just doesn't, and all Bioware has really done is polish a turd to put it bluntly. Really nicely polished, very nicely decorated, but at its core, it's still a turd. The passive-aggressive tone of their response and the Refusal ending also doesn't exactly endear them to a playerbase upon which they depend for survival. For some reason this really stuck in someone's (or multiple someone's) craw there, who apparently liked DeusEx so much they felt they needed to hamfist it's ending into Mass Effect and thought it would be amazing, and the butthurt shows.

Is it better? Yes.

Does it actually address any of the underlying non-sensical and irrational issues with the endings? Not really.

Will I be purchasing Bioware games or DLC again? No.

I shelled out for ME1/2/3 and associated DLC's (all of them). The ending DLC simply solidified that decision following Bioware's puzzlingly passive-aggressive response to this whole thing. Given the nature of the ending I still just cannot bring myself to care about additional DLC, and though now the door is at least somewhat open to future ME content, it feels...pointless.

Modifié par Vaktathi, 27 juin 2012 - 06:59 .

[tuzem2]

I loved the extended endings

[Oransel]

tuzem2 wrote...

I loved the extended endings

Good for you.

[Achire]

The ending was somewhat improved, but simply cutting out Starchild and automatically skipping to the Destroy ending would have improved more. It's not enough to make me tread through the singleplayer again, so I won't buy any DLC either. Will replay ME2, though, since it's actually a good game. Not writing off Bioware as a total loss, still interested to see Dragon Age 3.

Modifié par Achire, 27 juin 2012 - 11:28 .

[Cyne]

Oransel wrote...

Really simple. Is the ending acceptable for you now or not? Will you forgive Bioware after what you have seen or are you leaving? Has the Retake's goal being completed? Or maybe it is just same turd, but under a chocolate cream of non-important things? Or maybe it made situation even worse?

Also, this poll http://social.biowar...58/polls/35742/

It hasn't completely sunk in yet to be honest. It was in some ways better, in some ways worse. I'm grateful bioware put in the effort though, it was cool of them even if the result wasn't exactly what i'd hoped.

[ArthurVon]

[Cyne]

Achire wrote...

The ending was somewhat improved, but simply cutting out Starchild and automatically skipping to the Destroy ending would have improved more. It's not enough to make me tread through the singleplayer again, so I won't buy any DLC either. Will replay ME2, though, since it's actually a good game. Not giving up on Bioware as a total loss, still interested to see Dragon Age 3.

Yeah as a whole ME2 is still the better game. I tried replaying me3 for the sake of this EC but couldnt bring myself to, the autodiaglue and slow, constant cut scenes brought my interest to a stand still. ME2 left me feel inspired, ME3 left me feeling.. confused, happy, demoralized, and weirded out. Very mixed bag.

[Edrahil17]

Its quite the opposite actually.

[Harorrd]

No, and yes. its still garbage, but its better garbage