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Is EC satisfying enough to forgive?


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#76
Elheldo

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The new Endings are okay but not far as good like the endings from ME1 and ME2. But i will not forgive Bioware and in the future i will not buy blind a Bioware game *wink to C&C2*

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vivaladricas wrote...

so people actually do like the original ending, cause thats what you have here with a slideshow. And the exact same issues.


+1

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I still have a few questions, but yes. All is forgiven. Wish it never had to come to this in the first place.

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Meh, I'll probably play again sometime down the road. But being that I have every achievement and have played through twice, I think I'll just be sticking to multiplayer for the time being and picking up The Witcher 2.

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vivaladricas wrote...

so people actually do like the original ending, cause thats what you have here with a slideshow. And the exact same issues.


Wrong.

Anyway yeah sure. Looking forward to the next DLC.

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I have to say I am very pleasantly surprised. The ending I chose was "Destruction" after having to replay the mission twice, LOL because the first time I shot the lil' bastard "Harby-starchild" and it trolled me with a crappy ending. So I had to reload and when I finally chose destruction I have to say that I am very happy with it. I know some people are going to want a more concrete proof of a LI reunion or something but the Destruction ending it's pretty straight forward.

I feel like that should have been the original ending. It's not perfect by any means but to be honest it makes me feel a hell of a lot better when the starchild tells Shep that there will be destruction but nothing that can't be rebuilt and it is said that the relays are in bad condition but not impossible to repair in a near future.

Also the scene with the Normandy was really interesting. It seems like they stayed stranded for a bit, maybe a few months? Until most races started rebuilding their own planets and it seems to me they assume Shepard dies, which is why they made a plaque with her name but then they take off the planet they were stranded, obviously to return to Earth (which now seems possible) and I get the same scene with Shepard breathing which indicates that Shepard is still alive somewhere in the ruins of the Citadel. Seems nobody has gone up there to find her.

Also the images/slideshow and the words by Admiral Hackett really gave me hope that the galactic civilization is not destroyed but heavily damaged. I don't know there were so many little things that I was pleased with.

It's definitely not a perfect ending but if this is what I had gotten the first time, things would have SO MUCH different to me. I feel much better about Shepard and Kaidan and the relays and everybody surviving and rebuilding again.

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I still don't like the endings, but I at least feel 'better' about them.

The original endings were uniquely atrocious enough to feel justified in demanding changes; these new endings feel more like just standard 'mediocre, subpar endings,' akin to the quality of endings in many other series.

I guess that's my way of saying: I still think the endings are bad, but I no longer find them quite objectionable enough to protest as if it's the end of the world.

...I could have done without the Rejection ending, though. If included in the original release, that kind of ending would have been intriguing. Included in the EC, however, it feels less a unique option and more a deliberate potshot, intended simply to offend the critics. If so, that's a low blow, Bioware.

Modifié par KironDrayga, 26 juin 2012 - 01:29 .


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JohnTheJohn wrote...

vivaladricas wrote...

so people actually do like the original ending, cause thats what you have here with a slideshow. And the exact same issues.


Wrong.

Anyway yeah sure. Looking forward to the next DLC.


There ya go, buy that DLC.  !!!!

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KironDrayga wrote...

I still don't like the endings, but I at least feel 'better' about them.

The original endings were uniquely atrocious enough to feel justified in demanding changes; these new endings feel more like just standard 'mediocre, subpar endings,' akin to the quality of endings in many other series.

I guess that's my way of saying: I still think the endings are bad, but I no longer find them quite objectionable enough to protest as if it's the end of the world.

...I could have done without the Rejection ending, though. If included in the original release, that kind of ending would have been intriguing. Included in the EC, however, it feels less a unique option and more a deliberate potshot, intended simply to offend the critics. If so, that's a low blow, Bioware.


Good said!

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Yes, because Bioware did change the ending by letting us refuse the three other options. Also, the original three were expanded and explained more, so we can truly understand how our choice affected the galaxy. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

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Hh, hard to forgive someone when they hit you this hard. Though, it now seems clear that Destroy is the "good" ending none the less with Breathe being achieved only on that one.

No. I can't. Dues Ex Machina's this late into everything are still unforgivable, followed by the fact that there are still only two endings. ME2 characters get the huge brush off, my qualms are not just about the ending.

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nope. it addresses no actual plotholes. it just turns synthesis into a kumbaya enlightenment sunshine and rainbows ending (oh, the irony), makes a few changes to control and destroy, makes it easier to get "Shepard breathing" scene, and pretty much destroys any chance out IT being in any way canonic (not that I wanted it to be canon in a first place, but /shrug).

feels like a "there, there, its ok, see, the galaxy is safe" pat on a head from developers.

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Takes the endings from "abomination" to "weakly written and poorly executed ending". The Refusal ending honestly pisses me off, it's like the ME writers wanted to give a middle finger to the people that disliked the endings. The original three endings were expanded enough to where not as much speculation is needed, and the Normandy issues were quickly retconned.

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I do agree that the Refusal ending seemed like it was a mean spirited jab at the critics. I also am VERY iffy on Synthesis... you're telling me the Krogan are okay with that?

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No. Starchild is still there. Basically the same choices which make no sense (Synthesis are you kidding? This is space magic!) No reunion with LI. Refusing the choices is the only good idea but does not allow to see the outcome of your squad.
A pointless EC for me as a customer. And a waste of money for Bioware.

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No, nor forget.

I appreciate that they did this, trying to make amends, but especially the treatment of the fan base for what were — obviously — completely valid complaints? This doesn’t fix that.

If this is the artistic statement they wanted to make, so be it. But they should’ve clearly only released the game now, not in March when it was incomplete.

Edit: Let’s say that we can see where we go from here, but we’re far from being good.

Modifié par lillitheris, 26 juin 2012 - 01:48 .


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 The synthesis ending was beautiful. EDI was just, wow.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I do agree that the Refusal ending seemed like it was a mean spirited jab at the critics. I also am VERY iffy on Synthesis... you're telling me the Krogan are okay with that?


yep.  they are totaly ok with it and no longer this warrior race.  and hey, if you have reave instead of Wrex... he forgets all about revenge too.  becasue synthesis made everything perfect.

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Synthesis and Control are morally wrong.

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can you forgive someone for sh*tting on your face?

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SquishyAsari wrote...

 The synthesis ending was beautiful. EDI was just, wow.

Yes!! I loved being able to hear her talk about how I affected her life! :')

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No chance. I'd explain, but I'm tired of talking about this game. I hope BW goes out of business.

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symphysis at least was, i haven't tried the others

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I'm not about to forgive what they did to us with Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3. The EC DLC is better than the original endings we had, but to me this franchise can now rest in piece.

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They retconned the two most senselessly nihilistic parts of the old ending. But the ending still doesn't make any sense.

So, am I satisfied with happier nonsense? Would I actually want to see this level of handwave, magic, and pointless detours to tropical planets in the ending of another game? No, not really.