Much better endings, still wanted to see more on our squad (and Shep if they lived) but still alot better
Is EC satisfying enough to forgive?
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Oransel
, juin 26 2012 12:27
#201
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:09
#202
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:12
I really like it, much better now.
#203
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:16
Only the destroy ending is forgiven. The other two still suck balls and Bioware can go screw itself for the (slap in the face) reject ending.
#204
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:17
No, they are better but still terrible. In fact, I feel like I'm punished for choosing the one ending that makes most sense to me.
#205
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:18
Let me say it this way:
If I were to ever replay Mass Effect again - I'd stop the game right after sitting down with Anderson and invent my own ending from there.
And that's a big if......
If I were to ever replay Mass Effect again - I'd stop the game right after sitting down with Anderson and invent my own ending from there.
And that's a big if......
#206
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:19
Eh, it's ok. Doesn't really show anything that wasn't obvious from the original endings. Only thing I really appreciated was the explanation for Normandy fleeing, and seeing the Normandy repaired and fly away (showing that they're not stranded forever).
Good enough to forgive? Eeehhh I dunno. I'll still buy Bioware stuff, as long as neither Mac Walters nor Casey Hudson are involved. It's not about me not getting what I wanted, it's about them being dishonest and arrogant. I don't want to support people who think like that.
Good enough to forgive? Eeehhh I dunno. I'll still buy Bioware stuff, as long as neither Mac Walters nor Casey Hudson are involved. It's not about me not getting what I wanted, it's about them being dishonest and arrogant. I don't want to support people who think like that.
#207
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:19
Oransel wrote...
Jon The Wizard wrote...
Yes. Absolutely.
I know there are still some people who yell that they hate the ending, but I think they were expecting the ending where Shepard rides off into the sunset with his/her chosen love interest.
lol, no. People want ending to have narrative coherence, you know? They want good writing, not Deus Ex Machina. They do not want last minute choice to override the previous 70 hours of gameplay. They want Mass Effect to be Mass Effect, not cheap Matrix parody. They want to be respected by company they give money for product. And yes, they want to have multiple endings which include Shepard riding into the sunset. Just as the option for him to die or to be crippled. That is what people want.
Narrative coherence seems like a lot more complicated concept than artistic integrity. It is sure beyond what the people who wrote the endings could comprehend. Seems like ethics is another obscure word for them.
#208
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:22
Haven't finished downloading the Extended Cut (s**t is taking forever!), so I just watched them on Youtube.
Honestly speaking, that was much better than what was presented initially. The extended epilogues do give a sense of closure regarding the state of the galaxy and the final fate of your squadmates.
But I still dislike being railroaded into those 3 choices. Yeah, I know about the 4th choice. But refusing the Starchild is still depressing as hell. So I don't like that either.
Was this effort enough to forgive Bioware? I'd say... yes. But they'd better not mess up again, lest they lose a longtime fan here.
Honestly speaking, that was much better than what was presented initially. The extended epilogues do give a sense of closure regarding the state of the galaxy and the final fate of your squadmates.
But I still dislike being railroaded into those 3 choices. Yeah, I know about the 4th choice. But refusing the Starchild is still depressing as hell. So I don't like that either.
Was this effort enough to forgive Bioware? I'd say... yes. But they'd better not mess up again, lest they lose a longtime fan here.
#209
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:23
The star child ending is not great, OK, it is terribad. The whole concept is not up to Bioware standards. BUT. Looking at the three new endings has restored some faith in the company. Probably enough to let me spend some money on them, probably not ME3 DLC, and I will have to seriously consider DA3 purchase and will probably not be an early adopter any more. I was waiting for these ending to decide if I would give them ANY more money, and that included me leaving games I liked. I will reconsider that policy.
I would not have loved these endings if they shipped with the game, but I would have excepted them, and probably would not have come here to complain. As is, they are not the complete betrayal the original endings were, followed by many arrogant and condecending statements defending them, both from people who do not share that opinion (which is fine, to each thier own) and the company (which is definitly NOT fine.)
I would not have loved these endings if they shipped with the game, but I would have excepted them, and probably would not have come here to complain. As is, they are not the complete betrayal the original endings were, followed by many arrogant and condecending statements defending them, both from people who do not share that opinion (which is fine, to each thier own) and the company (which is definitly NOT fine.)
#210
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:28
Hell NO.
The SC makes less sense the second time around. Many inconsistencies still haven't been fixed. Synthesis is still space magic and still makes literally no sense. No reunion or indication of what actually is in store for the future of your team mates - we get a cursory look at 1 or 2 ME2 squaddies relaxing. The normandy crash is ridiculous and completely pointless if they repair it instantaneously like that. The 'closure' we get doesn't indicate anything and we still don't really know what will happen. We are also still forced into dying for some stupid reason.
The only thing I can say which I approve of is the fact that the MEverse is no longer decimated.
The SC makes less sense the second time around. Many inconsistencies still haven't been fixed. Synthesis is still space magic and still makes literally no sense. No reunion or indication of what actually is in store for the future of your team mates - we get a cursory look at 1 or 2 ME2 squaddies relaxing. The normandy crash is ridiculous and completely pointless if they repair it instantaneously like that. The 'closure' we get doesn't indicate anything and we still don't really know what will happen. We are also still forced into dying for some stupid reason.
The only thing I can say which I approve of is the fact that the MEverse is no longer decimated.
#211
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:28
I still have questions but mostly about the Keepers and Reapers origins other than that I am very happy with the EC
#212
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:29
The DA Origins-styled end works pretty nice. I, for myself can stop reading hateposts and go to play. It's not perfect but it's a he**uvalot better than the first version of ending. Time for me to stop weeping and get back in reaper-kicking business.
I'll get me Cain and Kestrel coat
I'll get me Cain and Kestrel coat
Modifié par Mora1970, 26 juin 2012 - 05:29 .
#213
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:29
*reads topic title*
*laughs*
*laughs*
#214
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:29
Twisted and Mean wrote...
Oransel wrote...
Jon The Wizard wrote...
Yes. Absolutely.
I know there are still some people who yell that they hate the ending, but I think they were expecting the ending where Shepard rides off into the sunset with his/her chosen love interest.
lol, no. People want ending to have narrative coherence, you know? They want good writing, not Deus Ex Machina. They do not want last minute choice to override the previous 70 hours of gameplay. They want Mass Effect to be Mass Effect, not cheap Matrix parody. They want to be respected by company they give money for product. And yes, they want to have multiple endings which include Shepard riding into the sunset. Just as the option for him to die or to be crippled. That is what people want.
Narrative coherence seems like a lot more complicated concept than artistic integrity. It is sure beyond what the people who wrote the endings could comprehend. Seems like ethics is another obscure word for them.
Yeah... You're right.
#215
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:30
Nope and I'm glad I went into the EC with the right set of mind - That it'd be a disappointment.
Makes me wish I had never started with Mass Effect, just to avoid the sadness I feel now.
Then again...I say trilogy, but I'm sure they'll milk the series for a few more installments.
Maybe Mass Effect: Blasto's Odyssey.
Makes me wish I had never started with Mass Effect, just to avoid the sadness I feel now.
Then again...I say trilogy, but I'm sure they'll milk the series for a few more installments.
Maybe Mass Effect: Blasto's Odyssey.
#216
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:31
It is the opposite of satisfying.
#217
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:38
Well lets see... I was so ever rejoiceful I was given the option to reject those three ridiculous choices offer by the star child. For a moment my Shepard was in character. Yeah choose that get a middle finger from Bioware. So no they are not forgiven. I am utterly aghast at this kind of behavior.
#218
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:38
It's nowhere near good enough for me to "forgive" Bioware. The EC really comes across as "meh". Don't get my wrong, it's still way better than the original endings, but it's still meh.
#219
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:40
I have to admit that after watching all the new endings there not as bad as I expected or was lead to believe from most of the posts I've seen today, there still bad enough that I'm undecided on weather or not I want to bother playing Mass Effect at all. But they have brought back some of the optimism that last weeks podcast had completely destroyed.
#220
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:41
Forgive? No. However, it's a start.
#221
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:44
Hell no. the Rejection ending shows a bit too much of Biowares true colors. They're not looking for forgiveness, they're too proud.
Ah well, see ya bioware. Onto Dawnguard.
Ah well, see ya bioware. Onto Dawnguard.
#222
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:51
Horrid
And Bioware Mass Effect 3 writers are spiteful and pathetic in their attempt at a fitting ending to the series .
And Bioware Mass Effect 3 writers are spiteful and pathetic in their attempt at a fitting ending to the series .
#223
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:52
No. still riddled with plotholes and I didn't get my reunion with Liara.
#224
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:53
Better than the originals...should have been on disc to begin with. While better, its really not that much better. For me, there is still no reason to play through any of the games again since your choices over the last 3 game don't really matter in the end. I wish indoc theory was true...would have been much better than this imho
#225
Posté 26 juin 2012 - 05:55
Sorry, but while this end should be in the game in the first place, its still really bad. Just closure isn't enough, my decisions still didn't matter at all, we still have the space kid, and the new ending (the best one for me, and the one that should have a happy ending depending on your EMS) shows that space kid is deeply connected to the reapers raising more questions.





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