Fatso8686 wrote...
Kanon777 wrote...
you're not being punished, Bioware just dosent care about satisfying YOUR desires, instead, they focused on pleasing the many other fans who enjoyed the EC
This
I thoroughly hated the first ending and thoroughly enjoyed the EC. I am very happy with the ending now.
samb wrote...
Yeah you're beIng punished.... They did it just to ****** you off. It had nothing to do with the fact Reapers had been killing millions to billions a day, that your COs have been saying over and over we can't win conventionally, or that the Crucible was our only weapon for a chance.
Then you can ignore all those factors that clearly say "without the Crucible, we are screwed". Reject the Crucible options and then get screwed. And then you can sit there and wonder "is Bioware punishing me?".
It's like a guy purposely running into a wall and wonder why it hurts. You're that guy.
TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...
The refuse ending should have been done much better. Plus starbrat screams like Harbinger at end, we are totally indoctrinated.
TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...
The refuse ending should have been done much better. Plus starbrat screams like Harbinger at end, we are totally indoctrinated.
JeosDinas wrote...
TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...
The refuse ending should have been done much better. Plus starbrat screams like Harbinger at end, we are totally indoctrinated.
This better be a facetious comment.
LucasShark wrote...
Cyneburh wrote...
Once the writers decided there was going to be the cure-all that is the Crucible, "conventional means" were written off as impossible, no "ifs ands or buts." It would've been far too much work to write an alternate story-line having nothing to do with the Catalyst. Of course, I would've loved that option and a lot more validity thrown into it...let's see, pursue the strange alien device or unite and fortify the galaxy?
WHY!?!?! Why wasn't that done!?
The entire sodding trilogy was about uniting the galaxy! Why was there never a point where you actually could stand united and fight!?
That makes no sense. You will need to expand that explanation. As far as I can tell, the Reapers will win. They have been winning and eventually will win. I also knew that the Crucible was the only way to stop them. Hence, just by the logic already presented (through the whole game) it makes sense: don't use the Crucible, die.LucasShark wrote...
samb wrote...
Yeah you're beIng punished.... They did it just to ****** you off. It had nothing to do with the fact Reapers had been killing millions to billions a day, that your COs have been saying over and over we can't win conventionally, or that the Crucible was our only weapon for a chance.
Then you can ignore all those factors that clearly say "without the Crucible, we are screwed". Reject the Crucible options and then get screwed. And then you can sit there and wonder "is Bioware punishing me?".
It's like a guy purposely running into a wall and wonder why it hurts. You're that guy.
Save for the fact that the wall was erected by a person who had previously promised that that road would be unblocked.
samb wrote...
That makes no sense. You will need to expand that explanation. As far as I can tell, the Reapers will win. They have been winning and eventually will win. I also knew that the Crucible was the only way to stop them. Hence, just by the logic already presented (through the whole game) it makes sense: don't use the Crucible, die.
Maybe you are just upset that you fail logic? Or reading comprehension?
HBC Dresden wrote...
To OP: Not really. It was to show why rejecting the Catalyst in the first place wouldn't work.
False choice has been the most consistent theme in the series. You are hardly insightful for pointing it out. Did Undina still end up the councilor even though you picked Anderson? Did Cerberus become indoctrinated even though you destroyed the Collector base? Did really matter if you spared the Rachni?Because we were railroaded under the guise of choice
Cyneburh wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
Cyneburh wrote...
Once the writers decided there was going to be the cure-all that is the Crucible, "conventional means" were written off as impossible, no "ifs ands or buts." It would've been far too much work to write an alternate story-line having nothing to do with the Catalyst. Of course, I would've loved that option and a lot more validity thrown into it...let's see, pursue the strange alien device or unite and fortify the galaxy?
WHY!?!?! Why wasn't that done!?
The entire sodding trilogy was about uniting the galaxy! Why was there never a point where you actually could stand united and fight!?
Because we were railroaded under the guise of choice
LucasShark wrote...
Are we litterally being punished for not accepting the self-confirming circular reasoning of the catalyst's pseudo-intelectual rubbish? I'm referring to the "reject ending" where in we more or less get the gaurenteed "everyone dies", and yet somehow it is still my favourite of the now 4 potential endings...
Kanon777 wrote...
you're not being punished, Bioware just dosent care about satisfying YOUR desires, instead, they focused on pleasing the many other fans who enjoyed the EC
saracen16 wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
Are we litterally being punished for not accepting the self-confirming circular reasoning of the catalyst's pseudo-intelectual rubbish? I'm referring to the "reject ending" where in we more or less get the gaurenteed "everyone dies", and yet somehow it is still my favourite of the now 4 potential endings...
Pure melodrama. Mass Effect's theme was ALWAYS about tough choices that had consequences. You NEVER got out of any of them unscathed. EVER. You can only defeat the Reapers with the Crucible, and it has been made clear countless times in the game. To do otherwise is tantamount to suicide. In short, don't be a blind idiot.
Oransel wrote...
samb wrote...
That makes no sense. You will need to expand that explanation. As far as I can tell, the Reapers will win. They have been winning and eventually will win. I also knew that the Crucible was the only way to stop them. Hence, just by the logic already presented (through the whole game) it makes sense: don't use the Crucible, die.
Maybe you are just upset that you fail logic? Or reading comprehension?
You see there are 2 types of logic. Logic and Casey Hudson brand of logic. According to logic, Reapers can be beaten conventionally. According to Casey logic, we need catalyst starboy. You obviously have problems with logic, m'boy.
No, Casey Hudson made the logic in the game and the consequences of refusal make perfect sense. It has been stated many many times that the reapers were winning easily, admiral Hackett and Anderson already stated many times that convention methods were not going to work.Oransel wrote...
You see there are 2 types of logic. Logic and Casey Hudson brand of logic. According to logic, Reapers can be beaten conventionally. According to Casey logic, we need catalyst starboy. You obviously have problems with logic, m'boy.
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john_sheparrd wrote...
Bioware is dead for me!!
I just wanted a LI reunion but no they wanted speculations from everyone
well they can kiss my ass because I won't buy a game from them anymore
samb wrote...
False choice has been the most consistent theme in the series. You are hardly insightful for pointing it out. Did Undina still end up the councilor even though you picked Anderson? Did Cerberus become indoctrinated even though you destroyed the Collector base? Did really matter if you spared the Rachni?
Because we were railroaded under the guise of choice
Choice has always been an illusion for technical reasons, otherwise we would have thousands of different game plots.
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