Biotic Flash Kick wrote...
1.85 gb of slideshow?
Bull****
the files just arent compressed because if they were they would take up MAYBE
800 mbs
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And I guess that you can **** offGenera1Nemesis wrote...
john_sheparrd wrote...
Bioware is dead for me!!
I just wanted a LI reunion but no they wanted speculations from everyone
well they can kiss my ass because I won't buy a game from them anymore
Aww, I guess you'll have to go out and find a real love interest instead of vicariously living through a video game character...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Despite the fact that Hackett says like three times throughout the game that conventional victory was impossible? I seem to recall every star system had Reapers in it by the end of the game, not just Sol system. That was the entire galactic fleet at Earth, even if they'd somehow won there they would have been wiped out when all those other Reapers unified against them.
samb wrote...
False choice has been the most consistent theme in the series. You are hardly insightful for pointing it out. Did Undina still end up the councilor even though you picked Anderson? Did Cerberus become indoctrinated even though you destroyed the Collector base? Did really matter if you spared the Rachni?
Because we were railroaded under the guise of choice
Choice has always been an illusion for technical reasons, otherwise we would have thousands of different game plots.
samb wrote...
Yeah you're beIng punished.... They did it just to ****** you off. It had nothing to do with the fact Reapers had been killing millions to billions a day, that your COs have been saying over and over we can't win conventionally, or that the Crucible was our only weapon for a chance.
Then you can ignore all those factors that clearly say "without the Crucible, we are screwed". Reject the Crucible options and then get screwed. And then you can sit there and wonder "is Bioware punishing me?".
It's like a guy purposely running into a wall and wonder why it hurts. You're that guy.
LucasShark wrote...
Are we litterally being punished for not accepting the self-confirming circular reasoning of the catalyst's pseudo-intelectual rubbish? I'm referring to the "reject ending" where in we more or less get the gaurenteed "everyone dies", and yet somehow it is still my favourite of the now 4 potential endings...
Soooo everyone and everything is telling you one thing and you don't believe them. When what they say actually happens, you sit and wonder why. Victory is possible and it was stated it would be by using the Crucible. If you reject it then you die. It's really simple logic, one that you seem to have a hard time grasping.Oransel wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Despite the fact that Hackett says like three times throughout the game that conventional victory was impossible? I seem to recall every star system had Reapers in it by the end of the game, not just Sol system. That was the entire galactic fleet at Earth, even if they'd somehow won there they would have been wiped out when all those other Reapers unified against them.
Hackett? What about him? I don't really care what old incompetent fool says. I see numbers on my computer and they tell me that victory IS possible, though it will be of a high cost.
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Cyneburh wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
Cyneburh wrote...
Once the writers decided there was going to be the cure-all that is the Crucible, "conventional means" were written off as impossible, no "ifs ands or buts." It would've been far too much work to write an alternate story-line having nothing to do with the Catalyst. Of course, I would've loved that option and a lot more validity thrown into it...let's see, pursue the strange alien device or unite and fortify the galaxy?
WHY!?!?! Why wasn't that done!?
The entire sodding trilogy was about uniting the galaxy! Why was there never a point where you actually could stand united and fight!?
Because we were railroaded under the guise of choice
Did you play ME 1 and 2? You were railroaded throughout the series, why should this be any different? Why would you expect any different? If they plan on perhaps moving forward with the series, how can it make sense if my endings were vastly different from yours?
samb wrote...
Soooo everyone and everything is telling you one thing and you don't believe them. When what they say actually happens, you sit and wonder why. Victory is possible and it was stated it would be by using the Crucible. If you reject it then you die. It's really simple logic, one that you seem to have a hard time grasping.
Modifié par Oransel, 26 juin 2012 - 05:33 .
samb wrote...
Soooo everyone and everything is telling you one thing and you don't believe them. When what they say actually happens, you sit and wonder why. Victory is possible and it was stated it would be by using the Crucible. If you reject it then you die. It's really simple logic, one that you seem to have a hard time grasping.Oransel wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Despite the fact that Hackett says like three times throughout the game that conventional victory was impossible? I seem to recall every star system had Reapers in it by the end of the game, not just Sol system. That was the entire galactic fleet at Earth, even if they'd somehow won there they would have been wiped out when all those other Reapers unified against them.
Hackett? What about him? I don't really care what old incompetent fool says. I see numbers on my computer and they tell me that victory IS possible, though it will be of a high cost.
It says most of the reapers headed to earth with the citadel. If we would have beat them there we could have beaten the straglers.samb wrote...
Soooo everyone and everything is telling you one thing and you don't believe them. When what they say actually happens, you sit and wonder why. Victory is possible and it was stated it would be by using the Crucible. If you reject it then you die. It's really simple logic, one that you seem to have a hard time grasping.Oransel wrote...
Genera1Nemesis wrote...
Despite the fact that Hackett says like three times throughout the game that conventional victory was impossible? I seem to recall every star system had Reapers in it by the end of the game, not just Sol system. That was the entire galactic fleet at Earth, even if they'd somehow won there they would have been wiped out when all those other Reapers unified against them.
Hackett? What about him? I don't really care what old incompetent fool says. I see numbers on my computer and they tell me that victory IS possible, though it will be of a high cost.
Irish286 wrote...
Why couldn't they just ad one last ending where if we have enough war assets we could defeat the reapers... Are they that intent on a bittersweet ending?
LucasShark wrote...
Irish286 wrote...
Why couldn't they just ad one last ending where if we have enough war assets we could defeat the reapers... Are they that intent on a bittersweet ending?
Apparently...
z_gun wrote...
Pretty much the refusal ending was Bioware raising their middle finger saying, "Screw you and your fan suggested endings. See, they made you lose your game. You should have picked our endings."
I am sorry, but Bioware has lost me now.
LucasShark wrote...
z_gun wrote...
Pretty much the refusal ending was Bioware raising their middle finger saying, "Screw you and your fan suggested endings. See, they made you lose your game. You should have picked our endings."
I am sorry, but Bioware has lost me now.
More or less what I got out of it.
Irish286 wrote...
Why couldn't they just ad one last ending where if we have enough war assets we could defeat the reapers... Are they that intent on a bittersweet ending?
Logic says (even in the real world) that you can't beat a force that is technologically superior to you, you has no logistic issues, who can replenish its ranks with your dead and brainwash your living, and who has culled a vast portion of your population. It's not a jump in logic to see why conventional methods would work. We are even given a previous example of how the combination of those factors make conventional warfare against the Reaper unfeasible in the form of the Protheans.Oransel wrote...
As I said, it's hard to grasp fictional logic invented by other man, who refuses common sense. Yes, I refuse Starchild because it's the most rational way of thinking. You can't trust Deus Ex Machina affilated with Reapers. You just can't... Oh sorry, you can.
z_gun wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
z_gun wrote...
Pretty much the refusal ending was Bioware raising their middle finger saying, "Screw you and your fan suggested endings. See, they made you lose your game. You should have picked our endings."
I am sorry, but Bioware has lost me now.
More or less what I got out of it.
Yup. So the lesson they want to teach us with the Refusal ending is "Pick a color or die!!!!"
Screw you and the artistic integrity you rode in on Bioware!
Modifié par JamesFaith, 26 juin 2012 - 05:54 .
JamesFaith wrote...
Irish286 wrote...
Why couldn't they just ad one last ending where if we have enough war assets we could defeat the reapers... Are they that intent on a bittersweet ending?
Lets put aside if endings are good or not and use simple logic on this.
We have four ending now.
To achieve Destroy you must fight through London, get to Citadel, speak with TIM and Catalyst and destroy Reapers.
To achieve Control you must fight through London, get to Citadel, speak with TIM and Catalyst and take control of Reapers.
To achieve Synthesis you must fight through London, get to Citadel, speak with TIM and Catalyst and start synthesis.
To achievenew end you must fight through London, get to CItadel, speak with TIM and Catalyst and refuse his option.
But end you demanding simply don't need London, Citadel, TIM and Catalyst - which means that such end would be totally unfitting to others four. No arrogance, ego or love for bittersweet ends here, it just not fitting.
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