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[DistantUtopia]

JayPlays wrote...

Nice

Double Nice!  ^^

But seriously, I agree with this part of the article:

As expected, among the community there are those that are saying this is “good enough” and those raging with anger that it isn’t what they wanted. I’m somewhere in the middle, but what’s clear is that this is the end for Mass Effect 3. No amount of further protests would serve any sort of purpose.

Modifié par DistantUtopia, 26 juin 2012 - 05:19 .

[Galbrant]

Another great article from Forbes..... Now lets see what trash IGN churns out.

[Raptr569]

This guy seems upset that they didn't go with the indoctrination theory.

I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Shepards story feels completed now, sure the Destroy leaves some openess to his survival but it's a method of story telling and it works.

I actually disagree with Paul Tassi this time round even though I did like the idea of the indoc theory I'm happy with the extended cut version of events and seeing as my biggest issue were the Mass Relays and the Normandy crash I'm happy.

[soldo9149]

it was a good read.

[httinks2006]

When you purchase a product you are Entitled to receive what it promised to include ,when it does not everyone has a right to call the company on those said promises.

[Rxdiaz]

Genera1Nemesis wrote...

Far too late? Do people even THINK about how long it takes to get things back into production, re-hire voice actors, render cut-scenes, test it and so on? All for an absolutely FREE DLC that they didn't have to do? Lol, no hope for humanity, I swear...

Ugh, maybe they should have made the game right in the first place, no?

I find it underwhelming but like others have said, I'm beyond caring at this point....

[Saintthanksgiving]

I just read my last, and wanted to clarify...

I'm not saying IT is fundamentally better than the cannon endings.

I am saying people expected the ending of ME 3 to carry weight. The IT theory did this for some people.

The cannon endings might make more sense now, but they still don't hit very hard.

Modifié par Saintthanksgiving, 26 juin 2012 - 05:26 .

[Striker93175]

Raptr569 wrote...

This guy seems upset that they didn't go with the indoctrination theory.

I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Shepards story feels completed now, sure the Destroy leaves some openess to his survival but it's a method of story telling and it works.

I actually disagree with Paul Tassi this time round even though I did like the idea of the indoc theory I'm happy with the extended cut version of events and seeing as my biggest issue were the Mass Relays and the Normandy crash I'm happy.

As my one friend pointed out if IT was correct it was either the biggest accident they stumbled into or the more
brilliant thing ever conceived.  Guess I gave em too much credit thinking it was indoctrination...

[Dragoonlordz]

httinks2006 wrote...

When you purchase a product you are Entitled to receive what it promised to include ,when it does not everyone has a right to call the company on those said promises.

The reviewer is complaining about not getting IDT, they did not promise IDT.

IDT was and is not the story they wanted to tell no matter how much you wanted it to be the story you played.

As for should the EC have been in the original title then yeh would of been nice but that is what feedback is for and they looked at the feedback and decided on ones that was closer to their story they wished to create. At least the improvement is free.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 juin 2012 - 05:28 .

[Catroi]

ME3 taught me that Forbes is best gaming magazine out there... I don't know if I should cry or laugh...

[Avernius]

Nice. One last slap to the face with the "Shoot the Starchild and Everyone Dies" ending.

Never again will you get the chance, BioWare. NEVER AGAIN.

[Oransel]

Forbes got better for me.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Typical slave.
Always eating up the scraps your master leaves you and being happy because it's safer than to rebel.

[magicalpoop]

It's not FORBES, it's one blogger dude. tl;dr at end

Seriously, you guys are so "ants in my pants" about one BLOGGER (who happens to be from Forbes) commenting about Bioware. It's hilarious because the bioware defenders are so stoic about it, but the fact that you would even comment about him caring so much for so long - proves that you're in equal limbo as the forbes guy.


tl;dr you're all hypocrites for bashing a forbes blogger for trashing the new DLC.

[Freakiq]

Too little?
Not really, it covered most complaints and expanded upon the existing endings rather than retconning them.

Too late?
Yes, this should have been in the game on release, this is what we paid for and was promised.
Those who **** about entitlement forget that we paid for this game.

[Dridengx]

Catroi wrote...

ME3 taught me that Forbes is best gaming magazine out there... I don't know if I should cry or laugh...

Let's keep things how they are, you cry about ME3 and everyone else laughs at you

[blacqout]

It cleared the one real inconsistency with the original ending (the Normandy fleeing with squad mates aboard), gave the opportunity to probe the Catalyst for more information and flat out disagree with it (dooming the cycle - nice touch BioWare) and sugar-coated the state of the galaxy after the use of the Crucible, giving everyone their happy ending.

The only part of the article that is correct, is that this should have been in the original content. How many new readers did Forbes get out of their coverage of the controversy? They're playing you for ad revenue just as surely as Sovereign was playing Saren.

[comrade gando]

I trusted bioware fix this. but no we got more of the same stupidness. they can take their artistic integrity and shove it /gquit

[STEEEEVE]

iggy4566 wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Forbes' interest in this is far too much for far too long.

Cry us a river.

It's ironic for you to say "Cry us a river" when you and your ilk have turned this website into an ocean of tears.

[Dorje Sylas]

I don't agree that the Indoctrination Theory would have been good to follow. It would have given Bioware (read Jesse Houston and Mac Walters) to much cover for a sloppy job. I'm happy they actually showed us what they were thinking was the outcome instead of leaving us with a rather lame outro in the snow. However it still doesn't excuse the Star Child.

F*** the Star Child. The shoot him in the head option should have given you +1000 Paragon and Renegade points, plus give the super ultra-speical happy rainbow unicorn ending. If you have to use a small child to be the expositions vehicle then you've likely failed at the writing.

I think I'll agree with MattFini. I'm not touching another game with either Jesse Houston or Mac Walters on the team. Most assuredly if they're both on it in any kind of lead capacity.

[DazenCobalt17]

good article

[The Irish Man]

lettuceman44 wrote...

JeosDinas wrote...

Please. That article's title should read "Mass Effect 3's Extended Cut: More than People Deserve."

Definently. People should be happy they got anything.

So people shouldn't get what they paid for? They shouldn't get the satisfaction? These new endings are more like a slap in the face. I know some are satisfied but many more aren't even happy about the new endings. A company shouldn't have to make an extended cut to fix its mistakes. Simply don't make the mistake in the first place. 

[Oransel]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...



Typical slave.
Always eating up the scraps your master leaves you and being happy because it's safer than to rebel.

I am Oransel and I am here to ask you a question: "Is a man entitled to the game he bought?"
"No", says the man in IGN, "It belongs to those who like it!"
"No", says the man in EA, "It belongs to the corporation!"
"No", says the man in Bioware, "It belongs to the artistic integrity!"
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different... I chose the impossible... I chose...
FANFICTION.

[Candoo]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The reviewer is complaining about not getting IDT, they did not promise IDT.

IDT was and is not the story they wanted to tell no matter how much you wanted it to be the story you played.

Where is he complaining?
"To me, this is the biggest tragedy of the game, as if true, it would be
the biggest mind warp in video game history, and it’s an ending far
smarter and more satisfying than what Bioware actually gave us in the
original, or in this new extended DLC." and "It would allow Bioware to keep their old ending, deliver new content and look like they had this planned all along."

I don't side with IT one way or the other, but I do agree with his statements. IMHO, it would have added a lot more interesting ending than what was had.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

As for should the EC have been in the original title then yeh would of been nice but that is what feedback is for and they looked at the feedback and decided on ones that was closer to their story they wished to create. At least the improvement is free.

The extra portions of the EC (whether good or bad),  SHOULD have been included in the original release, nulifying the fact that they are free.

[AtreiyaN7]

Great, maybe now you can collectively declare the company and game universe dead and pick up the pieces of your shattered lives after your latest bitter disappointment. After all, BW obviously hates you because they spent all that time and effort to address a number of the concerns that people had about the endings. They made it crystal clear that this wasn't going to be a complete do-over. While the author clearly thinks the endings should have been perfect right out of the box and that the original flaws remain (which presumably equates to "the Catalyst still exists"), I should point out that the author of the article also said:


Quote from article: It was a respectable effort to try and please fans, but the point is that no one should have to go back and re-do something like this. I may not have liked the way Prometheus ended, but I don’t expect Ridley Scott to come out with a five minute extension of the ending three months after the movie hit theaters. That would be strange for any film, and despite the flexibility of the newer medium, it’s rather uncomfortable for a video game as well.


So, I'm really fascinated by this, all the endings haters agreeing with the article are actually acknowledging the idea of artistic integrity/creative control per the Prometheus passage? They sure must be if they think Forbes nailed it again - which means they possibly A) are being hypocritical genuinely had some sort of change in their philosophical stance C) actually do think the writing at the Forbes site is so awesome that they're compelled to mention it constantly or D) they didn't read that quoted passage very closely. I'm guessing that there might be this kneejerk "anything Forbes says is awesome because they supported endings haters!" response. Gotta love action without any thought behind it!

BW promised only an expansion on the existing endings and clarification, and that's what they delivered. You wanted to know that life goes on for your friends and everyone else, and that they don't die horribly due to starvation and being hopelessly stranded in our solar system? *snicker* You do. I guess all those arguments for the gloom & doom future where everyone's dead, stranded, and/or inbred are settled now, aren't they?

You wanted to be able to defy the Catalyst? You can - enjoy dying for the sake of satisfying your freedom-or-death principles. Personally, I'm glad it's all over with one way or the other - those still determined to hate it for not fulfilling their every desire (because they're impossible to please) can go form a support group and boycott future games to their hearts' content. Maybe they can even bake themselves some cupcakes and build a life-size Reaper in protest over not getting what they wanted - because the cupcake thing really made a difference the first time around. The others who wanted clarification and more details got it.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 26 juin 2012 - 07:13 .