1. The Normandy is equipped with arguably the most advanced stealth system in the galaxy, not to mention the integrated Reaper IFF. As for the galaxy map, it was mentioned that scanning planets would make the Normandy's presence known to the reapers and drives them to "investigate", not "OMG THERES THE NORMANDY EAT IT!"
2. The entire series is based off of space magic, but apparently it takes one tiny little detail to remind us of that? Let's see, in every game medi-gel is this amazing substance that magically heals all wounds (the medkit of mass effect). You don't hear people complaining about that now do you?
3. This is probably the most picky detail in the list. i highly doubt any other game developer would take the time to explain something as insignificant as that. But to indulge on the matter, my theory is that the synthesis takes time to take full effect, therefore having been probably less than an hour since the final battle he hasn't been "perfected" yet. The fun part is making your own theories instead of saying "OMG BIOWARE YOU SUCK GIMME WHAT I WANT"
4. This is another one of those "come up with your own theory" details. My theory is after having evacced the squadmates you brought with you, the Normandy makes a pitstop at the HQ to pick up the remaining squadmates. As for the others such as Coates or w/e the hell his name is, they wouldve stuck to their duties whereas the squadmates left behind had none/felt they had none
5. ill admit this is a plothole, but my question is better: if the normandy ended up crash-landing on an unknown planet, what happened to the rest of the fleet? Need to keep an open mind people
6. This ties into 5, but to induldge: since we know the normandy survives intact for some of the endings, its likely the surge of energy from the crucible just ended up scrambling the normandy's systems; And from ME2 we know that the normandy can survive largely intact from a crash landing. Things WERE changed in the EC, not just polished.
7. IF he didn't make it to the beam, that there is the key word. Clearly shepard was still in good condition where as his teammates were injured and struggling. As shepard said, if he didn't make it he wanted someone to survive to keep fighting. Not to mention the galaxy wouldnt be obliterated in a matter of seconds, these things take time.
8. This was to show that shepard fully expected to die right there on the citadel, no matter which ending you chose. There is a point when the human mind decides "I am going to die here", and he reached that point.
9. what is this i dont even- someone will have to clarify what this means, to me it just looks the same as 1.
10. This is another very picky detail, one that i will not indulge as its not a game-ruining plothole. Find me any story that leaves no plotholes and i will admit defeat.
11. This was an intended plothole, they only wanted you to have that small glimmer of hope that shepard could survive. not "OMG SHEPARD CAN SURVIVE AND IF HE DOES THIS THIS AND THIS WILL HAPPEN."
12. See 11
13. Perhaps as the ground forces were retreating someone looked back and saw that shepard was still alive, thereby spreading the word all the way up to hackett? who knows, to me it wasnt a big enough detail to need clarifying. You cant be spoonfed everything, have an open mind.
14. At the time the catalyst saw no other solution than keeping the cycle. Remember that the catalyst could only comprehend the infamous 3 solutions during the last moments with Shepard.
15. The SR2 was designed by humans/turians to be used by humans. If cerberus didn't make the Normandy capable of landing on atleast earth then im sure that was one of the "improvements" the alliance made. The normandy was there on earth in the beginning, how come no one complained then? hmm?
16. This doesnt have enough details on its own to A. consider it a plothole and B. justify me clarifying it. if you would like to go more indepth/ combine it with a different plothole i will do my best to clarify it.
17. Theyre synthetics, they do not "tire" or feel "boredom". thats as far as im willing to go with this one, as it has a weak foundation.
18. Clearly there was no other way to implement the crucible other than using the citadel. Also, from the beginning this cycle was completely different. Had sovereign succeeded in taking the citadel then everything would have gone normal as stated.
19. how is it confusing? the citadel has always been the diamond in the rough through the entire series, yet only now do people complain. Also, it was noted that each civilization studied and made their own improvements to the crucible, obviously these studies and improvements would have been taken note of. The last civilization to contribute were the protheans. If you recall from mass effect 1, shepard was given the gift of the cipher, which allowed him to think like and comprehend the protheans.
20. why must you repeat the same plotholes over and over? why not just combine the repeated ones into one detailed and well thought out plothole? anyway, i already clarified this earlier.
21. For starters, Bioware changed the part where the normandy's engines are ripped apart, the engines remain intact now. And as stated earlier, in ME2 the normandy survived a crash landing on the collector base, i dare say it survive much more intact in a jungle environment.
22. As stated in expanded lore/codex entries, Mass Effect ships can travel across the galaxy via FTL, they dont necessarily need the mass relays, the relays just make travelling faster.
23. Shepard has been under extreme mental stress through the entire series, even he has a limit. Also, there are such things as pauses in battle to gather thoughts. Watch some documentaries on WWI or WWII sometime, they are intriguing and quite enriching.
24. The entire series boils down to "space magic" funny how this whole controversy is what it took to figure that out.
25. see 24.
26. once again stop splitting up details that belong in one bigger plothole. We arent splitting atoms here. That being said i clarified this earlier.
27. The war for the entire galaxy is finally over, wouldnt you say thats a momentus occasion?
28. this one i agree with, but to clarify the reasoning behind the scene: the star gazer is buzz aldrin, to put it simply its because of aldrins' accomplishments in space travel that bioware even made the mass effect series, so they decided to give him a tribute via a guest appearence. Like it or hate it, its a tribute to buzz aldrin.
29. If you recall from the new dialogue, harbinger was the very first reaper, and the civilization used to create him were resentful to the concept but had no choice. now that there is finally a choice lying with shepard, they (via the starchild) finally have a glimmer of hope.
30. Im sure out of all the systems on the fleet's ships that they have energy detectors. Its obvious to anyone the crucible was letting off vast amounts of energy.
31. The human mind's main function is preservation. They ran because they wanted to live, they hadnt accepted death yet.
32. this indeed is another plothole, but is it honestly gamebreaking? No. I recall reading somewhere that the people on the citadel were still there during the entire ordeal, slowly being harvested by the keepers (hence the area full of dead bodies). for the most part though they only needed the citadel to construct reapers, not harvest the people onboard.
33. Because shepard was the only way the other solutions could work, by rejecting the starchild the solutions had become invalid, therefore revertion to the cycle as it was the only option available to the starchild.
34. And that is how he/she/it/they came to the conclusion of the cycle, it was WHY the cycle was started, not HOW
35. More than likely because they did not see any signs of anderson being alive, not to mention he wasnt in contact with the fleet, only the ground forces. If you recall, anderson had to use the quantum comms system to communicate with shepard and the alliance. The one on the normandy and the one on earth were the only known systems in use. obviously once on the citadel anderson did not have access to it.
36. For the past cycles that WAS what he decided to do, it wasnt until shepard came along that he finally saw other possible solutions.
37. As soon as he approached shepard, he was able to comprehend possible alternatives to continuing the cycle, which is what he wanted from the beginning. knowing that, of course he wouldnt want the crucible disabled.
38. i thought it was made very clear when sovereign failed his mission. sovereign was the one designated to claim the citadel.
39. A. they implemented that as nothing more than a game mechanic B. ive answered this already.
whew that took a while to sort through, but i clarified as straight and as simple as possible.
basically the point of this post is to let people know that sure there are plotholes, but EVERY STORY HAS PLOTHOLES. its up to you to fill in the blanks, quit bickering for bioware to do everything for you. Remember, an open mind is a healthy mind.
Disclaimer: this was not intended to rustle anyones feathers, i hold no bitterness toward anyone here, this was just to clarify details.
EDIT: at the time of creating this reply, the list was at 39. i will clarify the new details later as quite frankly ide rather do something else today than write more posts
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