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[tanerb]

well i must admit witcher (enhanced edition) is superior to DA in terms of story and gameplay.

[Jax Sparrow]

Witcher starts off really great but has a horrible ending. I never finished the game and only played it once. I love the world and the concept but the way the story was ending was predictable and uninteresting. I got to the final scene and asked myself "why do I want to kill the character I want to romance?" and that is the only option you have. That is what I love about DA:O in that you have choices. Witcher is also almost completely linear in its gameplay versus DA:O being extremely nonlinear like Baldur's Gate.

So to answer your question?  IMHO Witcher is vastly inferior to DA:O, but that is just me.  You may like it. *shrugs*

Modifié par Jax Sparrow, 14 décembre 2009 - 05:12 .

[Romeriez Galenar]

You can't go wrong with the Witcher. All of the Enhanced edition stuff is available on their website, including the soundtrack and the best of the user made modules.



I've played through the Witcher twice, just to see some of the differences with siding with or against the elves and dwarves and ect. The story is great, much better than DA:O. Graphics are good, at least DA:O quality if not a little better if you have the hardware.



Combat can be a little offputting until you get your skills built up. The potion crafting completely makes up for all of that.



Just remember that your mileage may vary, but for the price the Witcher goes for now you can't really go wrong.

[Taleroth]

Jax Sparrow wrote...

 I got to the final scene and asked myself "why do I want to kill the character I want to romance?" and that is the only option you have.

spoiler


Why in the world would you want to romance your adopted son?  Either you didn't actually get anywhere near the end or you scare me.

[SheffSteel]

Taleroth wrote...

Jax Sparrow wrote...

 I got to the final scene and asked myself "why do I want to kill the character I want to romance?" and that is the only option you have.

spoiler


Why in the world would you want to romance your adopted son?  Either you didn't actually get anywhere near the end or you scare me.

I think what we have here is definite proof that the game offers alternate endings. I didn't have the same experience as either of the above posters

[Bibdy]

Both are great. If you've played DA:O to death, try out Witcher. You'll probably come to appreciate the different systems used in both games before long (the whole alchemy thing in Witcher drove me bat**** insane).

[Taleroth]

Anyone read the books? I've bought Last Wish and Blood of Elves, but have been too distracted by Discworld to read them.

[casadechrisso]

The Witcher is a gem and absolutely worth playing. Probably more original and innovative even, DA still reminds me of old NWN and D&D too often. Both games are must-have RPGs on my sheet, don't listen to those who say one is better or one is worse, you just can't compare them really. I, for one, like the combat in the Witcher, others (see above) hate it. Matter of taste.

[Tweekle]

Well the devs who made The Witcher on the NWN engine at least tried to be original and come up with some new ideas, unlike Bioware who pretty much just rehashed the Neverwinter Nights system with DA.

[T0paze]

That's hard to say.
Dragon Age offers:
Much greater variety (number of spells, talents etc.). The Witcher's roleplaying system was designed with one and only one character in mind. The one in Dragon Age is no AD&D or VTM, too, but it's far more versatile.
Companions and party interactions. Also companion quests, which can even be entertaining (Morrigan's quest, for example).
An interesting main quest and an adequate world.
Stupid sidequests. They would befit a MMORPG but certainly not the best RPG of the year.
Some interesting bonuses like poisons, traps etc.  Underdeveloped, though.
Attached please find some good facial animation, acceptable graphics and a bunch of other eye candies.
The Witcher offers:
Very restrictive RPG system. See above.
No companions. No stories, no banters, no companion quests. You're pretty much alone.
Superb story and world. The latter they owe to A. Sapkowsky, but they managed to write a story that is consistent with Geralt's biography and is quite up to the standard. Excellent moral choices. The game feels darker and more adult, too. The story in Dragon Age, although not exactly insipid, was nowhere as exciting.
The majority of sidequests in the Witcher are limited to contracts but they somehow left a better impression than the ones in Dragon Age. Maybe because the Witcher had several pretty cool quests (the Party, for example, was priceless) and Dragon Age has, well Chantry board and Mages' Collective bag.
Alchemy system that was far better developed and more challenging.
Good graphics, animation and other eye candies. Facial animation is better in Dragon Age, but the Witcher wins when it comes to combat animation - it's just more spectacular.

Overall, I liked the Witcher better. I'd also say that it's a better game, having a better story, world and all. But let's not forget, however, that the original Witcher was far from perfect. We're mostly comparing Dragon Age with the Enhanced Edition, which is a bit unfair towards Bioware's game.

Modifié par T0paze, 14 décembre 2009 - 05:43 .

[Trondesson]

casadechrisso wrote...

...Both games are must-have RPGs on my sheet, don't listen to those who say one is better or one is worse, you just can't compare them really...

Exactly. Wonder why some always have to compare. Will they ever actually enjoy a game or always search for one that is "better"?

[Curlain]

Taleroth wrote...

Anyone read the books? I've bought Last Wish and Blood of Elves, but have been too distracted by Discworld to read them.

The Witcher books are definitely interesting, though I would say the short stories in The Last Wish are the better stories, a nice spin on fantasy, folklore and myth and their deconstruction is to be found in there, very entertaining.  The Blood of Elves is the start of the Witcher saga proper and is more traditional fantasy because of this, however it does describe the beginning of the story about Geralt's life (and those events that get referred to in the game, such as the Witcher who loved a socereress, and of the child they brought up who had Elder blood and was both mage and witcher) basically it's the account of Geralt earlier life and what involves characters referred to in the Witcher game (and his earlier history with those you meet like Dandelion, Triss and Shani etc), and what lead to his death.

As for the Witcher, definitely different from DA but definitely worth playing, it is actually superior to DA in creating difficult moral situations that require allot of thought, and the conquences from your actions are greater there, and more importantly they are not immediate ethier.  A decision you made at the start can have effects that might appear at various points much later in the game, meaning you can't just make a decision, see what happens and then re-load for a better result, because the results won't fully be know till much further into the game.

[rmp]

The Witcher was a great game. Everything is top notch. I've said in other similar threads how much more attention to detail it has in its world, and I thought of another last night while playing DA. I was in an ancient, deserted, underground temple in the B. forest, and uhmmm, there were lit torches on the wall. Like, who exactly is lighting those torches? There's no reason to believe they're magical torches. The only inhabitants of the dungeon were the monsters. In DA, there's always enough light to see regardless of where you are.



Not so in The Witcher. You bring a torch or drink a potion to let you see in the dark, and even with those, you really see and feel the darkness surrounding you. It adds immensely to the atmosphere of a dungeon crawl. And that's how it should be in DA. Even the DA books are like this. But the game sort of cheaps out on this.

[ToJKa1]

Personally, i've tried to play Witcher trough three times, but always lost interest, on Dragon age, i'm almost done with my fifth playtrough, and plan to make many more still

I really should focus on the Witcher though, i do like it, but just can't seem to get past the third chapter.

[SheffSteel]

rmp wrote...

You bring a torch or drink a potion to let you see in the dark, and even with those, you really see and feel the darkness surrounding you. It adds immensely to the atmosphere of a dungeon crawl. And that's how it should be in DA. Even the DA books are like this. But the game sort of cheaps out on this.

It's a great shame.
Even NWN, which let you equip a torch, didn't have those completely dark caves that would require someone to carry one.
In DA:O, dual wielders should be able to use a torch in either hand, doing the same damage as a light mace with a tiny bit of fire damage. Mages could/should have had a sustained spell that would turn their staff into a light source. And so on.

(edited for clarity!)

Modifié par SheffSteel, 14 décembre 2009 - 06:51 .

[Sam -stone- serious]

SheffSteel wrote...

rmp wrote...

You bring a torch or drink a potion to let you see in the dark, and even with those, you really see and feel the darkness surrounding you. It adds immensely to the atmosphere of a dungeon crawl. And that's how it should be in DA. Even the DA books are like this. But the game sort of cheaps out on this.

It's a great shame.
Even NWN, which let you equip a torch, didn't have those completely dark caves that would require someone to carry one. Dual wielders could use a torch in either hand, doing the same damage as a light mace with a tiny bit of fire damage. Mages could/should have had a sustained spell that would turn their staff into a light source. And so on.

Or equip some piece of gear spaning from a simple ring to light sourced armor.

[Invalidcode]

Both are good games, hmm you can't really compare though. They are very very different games.

[Kealvis1]

Trondesson wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

...Both games are must-have RPGs on my sheet, don't listen to those who say one is better or one is worse, you just can't compare them really...

Exactly. Wonder why some always have to compare. Will they ever actually enjoy a game or always search for one that is "better"?

I agree, both of the games are wondorful games, both unique in their own way, but since the are both marked as RPG's we always tend to compare them against each other, only to decide who is the better. Personally I find them so very different that a comparison would be impossible. It's like deciding what is cutest of a puppy and a kitty.  

[ct1615]

if you enjoy playing the hump-back from rocky horror picture show in a story made for 14 year old boys then the witcher is for you



otherwise I would recommend KOTOR I&II, mass effect, NWN2, Jade Empire, and Fable



all head and shoulders above in the witcher

[memtz]

They both have the same quality in story. The combat in The Witcher is action-oriented and gets boring quite fast. Not really much strategy and player's skill involved. The Witcher has overall better character designs. Exploration, content, replay value, musical score and diversity are better in DA. Overall DA is a RPG you'll enjoy a lot and remember for years. The Witcher is a good RPG you'll have a good time with, that's

[Soretooth]

I can't get enough of DA:O. I'm not rushing through it. I'm taking my time for every little tidbit.



I left The Witcher behind after a couple of hours (earlier this year) and I haven't returned to it.



I haven't finished Fallout 3, so I'll probably return to that after finishing DA:O for the first time for a little break, and then return with a different type of char. I'm also looking forward to some real FPS action with CoD: MW4.

[bjdbwea]

Never got into the so highly praised Witcher (yes, I have the new version). The combat system feels boring and uninspired, the story didn't catch me, and worst of all I can't even create my own PC (of course I knew that before). Stopped playing after a few hours. DA on the other hand is far from perfect, but very good.

[SheffSteel]

ct1615 wrote...

Fable
head and shoulders above
the witcher

Nice one

[enderandrew]

Few87 wrote...

Dont get the witcher, its an awfull game. Now mass effect, that is a fantastic game you can play while having a break from DA

I have been sitting on Mass Effect for some time. I loved both Kotor and DA. I expected to love Mass Effect.

So far, it is a shooter that you pause, removing the skill of being a shooter, but it lacks the story I expect from a Bioware RPG. I got all my companions very early, except there is no dialogue with any of them. I don't know them. There are no storylines for them. Sidequests are exceedingly simple and straight forward. The whole game is a massive disappointment so far.

Oh, and the textures look pretty terrible.