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[Dex1701]

Martin E wrote...

Dex1701 wrote...
Dragon Age has MUCH better graphics than The Witcher.

Depends what you mean by 'graphics' - I personally felt TW  has some really outstanding environmental model design and textural art, and because of the way they chose to light the game, some fantastic settings.

TW feel is more realistic, less 'high fantasy' in look and appearance - it ticked many of my boxes because of my fascination with medieval architecture, and a particularly slavic feel. You just have to compare the castle designs of Redcliff and Kaer Kagen (can't remember name - that is from the depths of my often failing memory)

DA has gone for a more generic fantasy style, whilst TW defintiely has a darker richer feel.

So - for me - graphics = the whole bundle, and TW takes some beating. In places DA does achieve that, but stylistically TW is the more 'rooted' setting.

DA:O follows the Bioware design ethos - creating a world that has been less influenced by any particular historic settings.

Anyways, I would recommend trying The Witcher out - you've not really got much to lose

Martin

I was strictly speaking of the technical capabilities of the engine, not the artwork or visual design.  I believe that is what the post I was replying to was referencing.  I could be wrong.

[Pseron Wyrd]

enderandrew wrote...
Most professional reviews are based on less than 10 hours of gameplay.

Which is why they are worthless.

I stopped paying attention to "professional" reviews after they gave Oblivion unanimously ecstatic, 9/10 and 10/10 scores. I realized then just how bereft of standards  "professional" reviewers are. A gamer wanting to know whether or not a particular game is worth buying will do better to skip "professional" reviews and consult a Ouija Board.

Modifié par Pseron Wyrd, 15 décembre 2009 - 12:16 .

[Orogun01]

From a technical standpoint DA:O is superior to the Witcher. Graphics, story, controls, The Witcher is basically an action/RPG trying to pass as a tactical one.

[Malsumis]

I personally could not get into the Witcher, I found the setting and characters uninteresting. If you have not played NWN2/MoTB, I would recommend them.

[enderandrew]

Pseron Wyrd wrote...

enderandrew wrote...
Most professional reviews are based on less than 10 hours of gameplay.

Which is why they are worthless.

I stopped paying attention to "professional" reviews after they gave Oblivion unanimously ecstatic, 9/10 and 10/10 scores. I realized then just how bereft of standards  "professional" reviewers are. A gamer wanting to know whether or not a particular game is worth buying will do better to skip "professional" reviews and consult a Ouija Board.

No, professional reviews are worthless because companies basically bribe reviewers. People have come forward and outright say there were paid for certain review scores, and also blacklisted by certain publishers if they dared give them a negative review.

Have you ever noticed that every single major game gets a 9 or 10? Some scale.

I remember when Driv3r was given all 9's and 10's, and the game was a buggy, unplayable mess, except it was on consoles, and wasn't going to be patched at all. Reviewers who called it the Game of the Year later had to say, "well, we played a horrible buggy mess, but we rated a 10 and called it Game of the Year, because we assumed they'd fix it before release!"

Then people eventually admitted that Atari directly paid for specific review scores.

[Mondo_]

Loved theWitcher and the combat system, because you can mow down people. Has some of the same themes as DA:O but even darker.

[T1nk3rb311]

The Witch is a good game. There is a reason it sold so well.

[Fredescu]

Jax Sparrow wrote...

Witcher starts off really great but has a horrible ending

You've got that backwards. The Witcher starts out very slowly. Act I is the worst part of the game. It ramps up from there.

[Titius.Vibius]

Just because DA came out recently you call it better than The Witcher? Did you even play the game or just browse through a cheat list and pretend that you know dilly squat about this game. The Witcher from the start is better in combat and everything else, the consequences are not cliche and not tied down as good vs evil but in fact wise. Crafting was thorough and the skills were not flawed and nuked. The story of the Witcher was more superior to DA because it wasn't based on other games.



One thing about The Witcher that stands out is great customer service and community support. The guys from CD Projekt Red from day one never faltered to support the game with superior and timely patches including FREE quality extensions.



DA had the same problems with The Witcher when it comes to loading times. The Witcher was worst in its loading time that I had time to read a two page article before it finishes loading. However, they were able to fix it fast enough without fans leaving in droves.

[Titius.Vibius]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

The biggest flaw in The Witcher is its absolutely terrible combat. Hyper-repetetive and a worthless specialization tree. There are a total of 4-5 spells and 3 fighting syles, all of which are equally boring to use. There is a "combo/chain" system but it's very shallow and mindless.

The only redeeming aspect is the Alchemy system, which adds some much needed spice into the combat.

Combat? Because you click and click and wonder why your moves are not connecting?

There is a "combo/chain" system but it's very shallow and mindless. - You control directly the combat moves unlike clicking on the enemy and just watching your character do all the moves, now that's shallow and mindless.

[Pseron Wyrd]

enderandrew wrote...
Have you ever noticed that every single major game gets a 9 or 10?

Yes, I said that in my post.

I agree with you. It's my opinion that game publishers and game reviewers have been for too long part of the same public relations machine. I will develop some trust and respect for game reviewers when they adopt a watchdog or 'loyal opposition' stance toward game publishers - and the games themselves.

Modifié par Pseron Wyrd, 15 décembre 2009 - 03:18 .

[cipher86]

Buggy and disjointed, even in the EE.  I was so utterly bored with that game, and was actually sort of glad when it corrupted my save data (Act 3) - it meant I'd never be tempted to go back to that piece of carp again.

[Orogun01]

Sorry, but I just gotta butt in after this comment.

Titius.Vibius wrote...

 The Witcher from the start is better in combat and everything else, the consequences are not cliche and not tied down as good vs evil but in fact wise. Crafting was thorough and the skills were not flawed and nuked. The story of the Witcher was more superior to DA because it wasn't based on other games.

The combat on the Witcher was one of the high points, the tactical view was useless nonetheless. The spells were mostly useless too except for one or two and seeing as you only control one character the class builds are rather small. Crafting and potions are bad choices to max out since they have little effect on combat. Yet the skill trees were filled with these useless skills that had no relevance. You are playing the Witcher class there is no other way to build it for a different experience. Whereas in DA:O class and party build affects the experience wholly.
As for the story, dissimilarity is no cause for quality. The dynamics of the story is brilliant, consequences on DA:O actually affect the story and the gameplay unlike on the Witcher where all you got was a crappy explanation of why some menial event happened. The only choices and consequences that matter on the Witcher are whose sex card do you get.

One thing about The Witcher that stands out is great customer service and community support. The guys from CD Projekt Red from day one never faltered to support the game with superior and timely patches including FREE quality extensions.

DA had the same problems with The Witcher when it comes to loading times. The Witcher was worst in its loading time that I had time to read a two page article before it finishes loading. However, they were able to fix it fast enough without fans leaving in droves.

They should, specially after many people that were left unable to play it because of the system requirement check and the use of Tages and the frequent crashes. I basically played the game between crashes. 
The Witcher is not a bad game but you don't compare Lady Gaga to Montserrat Caballe, they are just not on the same level.

[Thelios0]

The Witcher is a very good game to play, the only version to play is the Enhanced Edition that is free to download if you only have the standard abridged American version.  That game has 3 different endings.  Only seen one of them, but what an ending!  Have fun with the "Boss" fight in Act 1, point and click my a**!!  I did like how the dialog choices and actions in TW do have a definite effect on Geralt and the path he takes.  In most cases you have a "bad" or "worse" choice. It is also the first game I saw a thug taking a wizz in the street, LOL!  And yes, the caves and crypts are dark!  Ghost Adventures dark. I fought a few battles in the dark just to see if it could be done. It has real-time Day and Night sequence.  Gamble by day, Hunt by night...  Oh and Geralt's finishing moves, what a treat... You unlock more as you improve his fighting skills.

Now DA:O, I love this game.  It is immersive but in a different way from TW.  I do like the way you have more of a story with your group members.  I really like how the group will talk to each other at times.  Alistair and Morrigan are like 2 kids fighting in the back seat, "Don't make me stop this car!"  The battle tactics of DA:O are different from TW. DA:O you of course have the group, TW it's just Geralt, except for a few times, he does have a few friends.  I do like how  DA:O battles require you to "coordinate the effort" especially against the tougher bosses and numbers.

But, I really cannot compare them as one better than the other.  They are both very good games in their own rights and enjoy both of them thoroughly.

[FollowTheGourd]

Well, The Witcher was fun if nothing else. Looking back, you might think some things could have been done better, maybe a lot better, but it was a game I'd play until late into the night when I first got it.

Guess it's not for everyone though... there should be a demo, which I think is just the "combat trainer" basically.

Modifié par FollowTheGourd, 15 décembre 2009 - 04:43 .

[tanerb123]

Witcher was one of the best if not the best rpg i have ever played.

[Allyahnah]

I'm about to pull my hair out, just getting the patches downloaded. It's hard to figure out what all I need since it doesn't come in one big bundle, then they transfer you to a different site in a foreign language to download and that's all incredibly confusing, now I'm stuck because it can't connect to some server to verify that I've registered the game. This is day 3 of trying to install the game. Plus, one of the guys on the forum was trying to explain what to do with the rest of the patch bundle and that just sounds like the most confusing thing ever. I'm not so sure it's worth all the frustration.



I think I'm just gonna go make a new character on DA and be happy it's not nearly as frustrating.

[casadechrisso]

It's worth the minor frustration. The patches for the Witcher can be filed under "outstanding support", most other comnpanies would've considered the game already finished after the 2nd patch (actually, for me it was almost perfect after that), and yet they released a total overhaul for free because they wanted the game to be exactly what they dreamt of.

If you want to go through patching hell, try NWN2.

[Allyahnah]

casadechrisso wrote...

It's worth the minor frustration. The patches for the Witcher can be filed under "outstanding support", most other comnpanies would've considered the game already finished after the 2nd patch (actually, for me it was almost perfect after that), and yet they released a total overhaul for free because they wanted the game to be exactly what they dreamt of.
If you want to go through patching hell, try NWN2.

If it's worse, I'll pass. I want to keep my sanity.

I think it's awesome that they want to make Witcher a better game but they could take lessons from DA on how to present a patch. Put the entire bundle in one place and make the download executable so it just does what it needs to do without me screwing it up.

[WKWBlank]

Dragon Age = Much better combat system

Really?

[Allyahnah]

WKWBlank wrote...

Dragon Age = Much better combat system

Really?

Yeah, I'm having problems getting used to that combat system. I'm hating how the cursor doesn't move in game. It just stays fixed in the middle. I like the DA combat system much better.

[Pinkleaf]

I would like to try the Baldurs gate games, but the graphics are awfully outdated.

Would it be so hard for Bioware to bring the graphics up to date? I'm sure this would sell very well.

[Survalli]

just like Pokemon...gotta catch'em all loved the cards. camera was awful, but the game play was decent. its been awhile since i played, but the world i believe seemed more fleshed out than DA, which is extremely linear and limited in design (on purpose) but then DA planned DLC, and Witcher did not.