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[Metalunatic]

Reunion with crew and LI would have made destroy a very enjoyable ending for Shepard & Co.

[Carlthestrange]

One other thing I like. You notice that in the High EMS Destroy Epilogue, Not only did they decide to repair the Citadel, they got the Conduit beam running again too, meaning you can go from Earth to the Citadel in the blink of an eye.

[BooBoo_swe]

Mind you, the Mass Effect 3 ending is right after the Reaper Larvae is destroyed in ME2. Cause nothing after that matters. It's just dead or living based on ME Vermire and ME2 loyalty/squad choices. All after is ridicilously bad writing, implementations and weak explanations to why everything is as it is. Geth 4? Rachni back after she dissolved in acid? The ending is a intellectual insult on anyone who can use a doorknob.

[Ranger Jack Walker]

I like Reject best.

Then Synthesis. Even though turning everyone into organic-synthetic hybrids still doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Don't like Destroy. I couldn't just destroy the Geth and EDI. Not after the Geth-Quarina Peace and Joker-EDI hook up. Far too cruel for me. It works for Renegades though.

[DextroDNA]

TheWerdna wrote...

You also get a heavily implied reunion with Shepard and LI

your love interest doesn't but the plague up, as he/she doesn't think Shepard is dead. Then the Normandy flys off to go back to Earth, and breath scene is shown.

And everything is fine and dandy, ready for ME4!
You get to import your ME3 save (Destroy only) and your custom Shepard becomes a squadmate.

[Claym0re]

TheWerdna wrote...

You also get a heavily implied reunion with Shepard and LI

your love interest doesn't but the plague up, as he/she doesn't think Shepard is dead. Then the Normandy flys off to go back to Earth, and breath scene is shown.

Oh I thought there were some solid evidence I knew about those. An implication and a stupid easter egg? Meh. Thx for the answer anyway.

Modifié par Claym0re, 26 juin 2012 - 08:55 .

[Sunshroud]

Claym0re wrote...

TheOptimist wrote...
You don't need it. >3100 is what it takes now. 

Still...how is it confirmed?

After all the slideshows and monologues you see a body laying in rubble. The body has N7 dog tags and can be seen taking a breath in. While you can't see the face, it's assumed to be Shep. After all, there aren't any other N7's running around that we know about. Plus in the destroy ending Shep's LI doesn't put the name up on the wall with all the others who died. It is the only ending where this happens. They also look like somehow they just got a feeling that Shep didn't die.

[DextroDNA]

Claym0re wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

You also get a heavily implied reunion with Shepard and LI

your love interest doesn't but the plague up, as he/she doesn't think Shepard is dead. Then the Normandy flys off to go back to Earth, and breath scene is shown.

Oh I thought there were some solid evidence I knew about those. An implication and a stupid easter egg? Meh. Thx for the answer anyway.

Also, the breath scene is still there.

[Reorte]

There are only two dissapointments with Destroy: No actual reunion scene seen, and still the forced death of EDI. The geth remain ambiguous and considering that they are software and are known to be able to run on other platforms, such as quarians' suits, it's rather hard to have them all dead and the quarians seemingly alive (although making sense was never part of the ending and still isn't).

[Volc19]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Synthesis, everyone becomes half-machine and everyone essentially become husks.

But that's wrong. Back in the dark days of speculations, that was a valid fear. The fear that we would all become Lovecraftian constructs of skin, teeth, and gears akin to the Collectors.

However, if you watch the Synthesis ending then you see quite clearly that we aren't husks. We basically just get kinda-ugly green lights under our skin. Otherwise, we gain all the knowledge of the Galaxy since the begining of the Cycles.

I used to hate Synthesis. Now, it's actually viable as an ending. Unless, y'know, you are one of THOSE who is broken up that the IT isn't as favorable as an option anymore. Destroy is the baseline "lets return to the status quo" ending, with a pinch of genocide. The only real problems with the other endings come down to personal prefference and Shepard dying.

[LTKerr]

RussianZombeh wrote...

You destroy the Reapers.
Shepard lives.
Citadel is rebuilt.
Mass Relays are rebuilt.
Technology is fixed.
Geth CAN be rebuilt (not that anyone would want to).
And so life continues just like it did before ME1, fine and dandy. Perfect for other Mass Effect games. I can't see ANY other Mass Effect games set post ME3 if you didn't pick Destroy.
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There are NO flaws with this ending AT all apart from the fact EDI dies.
So, Destroy is the best ending. What do you think?

Possible Shepard-LI reunion
Less space magic than the other options

I want to rebuild the Geth and do whatever it takes to make them alive and sentient again, just like they were after Legion sacrificed himself. The same for EDI.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

It really is the best ending and frankly the one I was wanting for the trilogy.

[DextroDNA]

Volc19 wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Synthesis, everyone becomes half-machine and everyone essentially become husks.

But that's wrong. Back in the dark days of speculations, that was a valid fear. The fear that we would all become Lovecraftian constructs of skin, teeth, and gears akin to the Collectors.

However, if you watch the Synthesis ending then you see quite clearly that we aren't husks. We basically just get kinda-ugly green lights under our skin. Otherwise, we gain all the knowledge of the Galaxy since the begining of the Cycles.

I used to hate Synthesis. Now, it's actually viable as an ending. Unless, y'know, you are one of THOSE who is broken up that the IT isn't as favorable as an option anymore. Destroy is the baseline "lets return to the status quo" ending, with a pinch of genocide. The only real problems with the other endings come down to personal prefference and Shepard dying.

I never said everyone became actual Husks.
 And it isn't our choice to re-write everyones DNA into some disgusting mashup that should never have happened. Like the Catalyst said, synthesis failed before - and probably for a reason. Machine and man shouldn't be put together. And immortality/infinite knowledge leaves nothing left in life. Nothing to discover, nothing to worry about in life. It takes away the essence of life.

[Reorte]

LTKerr wrote...

Possible Shepard-LI reunion
Less space magic than the other options

I want to rebuild the Geth and do whatever it takes to make them alive and sentient again, just like they were after Legion sacrificed himself. The same for EDI.

This. We knew how the geth and EDI worked in the first place, and not everything of them can possibly have been destroyed (although any writer who can write space can have anything happen). They're in a Shepard at the start of ME2 state.

[Lord Stark]

If Cerberus could rebuild Shepard, why can't the unified galaxy rebuild EDI?

[richard_rider]

I love how destroy and reject are the only ones with any kind of negative consequence, while control and synthesis are all peaches and cream.

[umadcommander]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Synthesis, everyone becomes half-machine and everyone essentially become husks.

But that's wrong. Back in the dark days of speculations, that was a valid fear. The fear that we would all become Lovecraftian constructs of skin, teeth, and gears akin to the Collectors.

However, if you watch the Synthesis ending then you see quite clearly that we aren't husks. We basically just get kinda-ugly green lights under our skin. Otherwise, we gain all the knowledge of the Galaxy since the begining of the Cycles.

I used to hate Synthesis. Now, it's actually viable as an ending. Unless, y'know, you are one of THOSE who is broken up that the IT isn't as favorable as an option anymore. Destroy is the baseline "lets return to the status quo" ending, with a pinch of genocide. The only real problems with the other endings come down to personal prefference and Shepard dying.

I never said everyone became actual Husks.
 And it isn't our choice to re-write everyones DNA into some disgusting mashup that should never have happened. Like the Catalyst said, synthesis failed before - and probably for a reason. Machine and man shouldn't be put together. And immortality/infinite knowledge leaves nothing left in life. Nothing to discover, nothing to worry about in life. It takes away the essence of life.

THIS!!! explains pefectly why i hate synthesis, well that and 

[SentinelBorg]

You can't rebuild EDI. You can make a similar A.I., but as explained in the game, because of her quantum bluebox (which you could call her soul) she is a unique entity that can't be copied or remade.

[Volc19]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Synthesis, everyone becomes half-machine and everyone essentially become husks.

But that's wrong. Back in the dark days of speculations, that was a valid fear. The fear that we would all become Lovecraftian constructs of skin, teeth, and gears akin to the Collectors.

However, if you watch the Synthesis ending then you see quite clearly that we aren't husks. We basically just get kinda-ugly green lights under our skin. Otherwise, we gain all the knowledge of the Galaxy since the begining of the Cycles.

I used to hate Synthesis. Now, it's actually viable as an ending. Unless, y'know, you are one of THOSE who is broken up that the IT isn't as favorable as an option anymore. Destroy is the baseline "lets return to the status quo" ending, with a pinch of genocide. The only real problems with the other endings come down to personal prefference and Shepard dying.

I never said everyone became actual Husks.
 And it isn't our choice to re-write everyones DNA into some disgusting mashup that should never have happened. Like the Catalyst said, synthesis failed before - and probably for a reason. Machine and man shouldn't be put together. And immortality/infinite knowledge leaves nothing left in life. Nothing to discover, nothing to worry about in life. It takes away the essence of life.

I didn't say it was flawless, I said you were incorrect in your assertion. Your complaint falls under personal prefference, you don't want to change biology for the sake of peace. Which is fine, you can have your opinion.

However, I don't feel like genocide is the right way to Galactic peace either. Not if there isn't another way to spare them, or a way to somehow benifit from the use of the giant doomsday machine instead of maintaining the norm.

Honestly, I still think the idea behind Synthesis is silly in concept. Control is much more of a neutral option, being a middleground between the two. The Reapers could always just rebuild the Relays and Shepard could send them on thier merry way. The only difference in the Galaxy is the fact Shepard is dead (kinda) and there is a lot more helpful tech lying around.

[shrimpgeek8]

I also feel that somehow the destroy ending is more acceptable to me than the other endings. There is a combination of both hope and sadness in this ending. We end up losing the geth and Edi but at the same time there is potential to rebuild as well. In a way the universe repeats itself but instead, without the reapers. Moreover, Shepard survives and it is implied that the LI and Shepard reunite. This is evident because the LI doesn't put the nameplate on the wall and even smiles at the end of the cutscene prior to the breath scene. Wouldn't your LI want to find Shepard if he or she knew Shepard was alive? I liked how they implied this rather than show the reunion because that would be kind of sappy in a game that is filled with war and death.

[Epsilon330]

If the Quarians rebuilt the Geth to as they were Pre Priority: Rannoch, they would eventually evolve into an equivalent of the Reaper Upgraded Geth.
It's stated by Shepard to Raan if you go into the Geth Consensus before obtaining Priority: Rannoch.

Also, there is no solid evidence that the Geth were actually destroyed in the Destroy ending. EDI's death is understandable, as she is essentially a dead VI mixed with Sovereign fragments. Perhaps they only lost their Reaper Upgrades?

[Warp92]

After watching all 3 endings with my largely edited EMS I will still say destroy is indeed still my favorite ending. Control sounds better than before EC. Synthesis still seems wrong to me IMHO, but it is nice that EDI is saying the epilogue. No matter what though I will choose destroy It's what I've set out to do since I started and finished ME1

[chibilombax]

Metalunatic wrote...

Reunion with crew and LI would have made destroy a very enjoyable ending for Shepard & Co.

Why not just use your imagination for that part? They give you a clue that it's going to happen. You can think up that part.

I mean I know it was hard to use your imagination for the older endings but I'm sure people can think up a reunion. I like to picture Tali just running up to male shepard and tackle hugging him for instance. Just as an example.

[Potatomade]

If memory serves, EDI at one point decided that she would be willing to die to protect Joker.  Thus, she is a less important reason to avoid Destroy than the Geth.

Assuming that the Geth could not be rebuilt, Destroy amounts to genocide.  The thing is though, killing all the Reapers is genocide, too.  However, people are much more ok with destroying all the Reapers than the Geth.  Why?

My thinking is simply this:  Shepard was always willing to commit genocide.  The only difference with Destroy is that now it includes an ally.  Just something to keep in mind.

[iHorizons]

I agree with this post