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[IckyLicks]

I'm a level 12 rogue and killing anything seems like a huge task.  I don't die often or anything but it seems like my rogue is useless in combat.  The abilities in for duel wielding don't feel like they add to anything in combat (tactically I mean)except for the sweeking strike ability (the one that hits multiple opponents)).   

I guess I'm just disappointed with how this class ended up.  I'm so used to D&D type classes that compared with this it feels really weak. I used to be able to sneak around and just sneak attack the an enemy to death.  But in this you can't.  So, I'm just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to make the rogue a more effecient killer.   I have expert poison making, improved tactcs, and expert combat training.  Sorry if those aren't the exact names I don't have good memory.  I also have tier 5 daggers with 2 enchantments on both.  I believe it's a +1 of electricity and +1 cold damage for each weapon.  I even have "Coup De Gra" ability. 

Modifié par IckyLicks, 14 décembre 2009 - 05:47 .

[Skellimancer]

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[BramAlam12345]

My dw rogue is also quite good. What are your stats? Why can't you sneak and backstab/

[Romeriez Galenar]

They get much better around level 15 or so. Maybe a bit earlier. My rogue playthrough was just as you described and then I got momentum and suddenly I could pretty much solo the game. Just stick with it.

[Jax Sparrow]

My second run is with a rogue and I find that a rogue's base abilities are superior to the specialized trees. My toon is an archer and I only picked up the first three and then maxed out to the Slayer talent. All my other points go into lockpicking and damage dealing. The end result is that I seem to do more damage than a lot of the other party members. So my answer would be? only max out the top passive dual wielding talents and maybe the middle one but the rest put into the top too rogue backstabiness.

[IckyLicks]

BramAlam12345 wrote...

My dw rogue is also quite good. What are your stats? Why can't you sneak and backstab/

I I can sneak and backstab but killing a single target seems to take forever.  I"m busting out 20+'s on white colored enemies for backstabs.  They die quick but not asassination quick, like my experiences in D&D.  For regular attacks it's around 15-18.  It's seems a lot but against yellow's and red's it's like, what's the point of attacking ( I get like 1's and 2's dmg).

m stats are low 20's for strength

32 dex
24 cunning
22 const

[IckyLicks]

Romeriez Galenar wrote...

They get much better around level 15 or so. Maybe a bit earlier. My rogue playthrough was just as you described and then I got momentum and suddenly I could pretty much solo the game. Just stick with it.

K. Thanks.  I mean I'm not having trouble I'm not feeling the 'killing machine" in it.

[mousestalker]

high cunning + lethality = pure win, btw

[casadechrisso]

I love rogues in DA, I started with one and after that, couldn't really get into any of the other classes anymore and ended up with a bunch of rogue characters. Mages are of course more powerful, but less fun to play, and I found tanks to be utterly boring.

[wanderon]

The rogue is not an "I win" button like it could be for some D&D games (fighter/thief was absurdly powerful in the BG series second only to the ranger/cleric perhaps) but I can hardly bring myself to choose a non-rogue for DA:O since the class is so versatile and useful.

[bladesharks]

well rogues are better at long range then going in sword cutting

they are not front line fighters

[IckyLicks]

mousestalker wrote...

high cunning + lethality = pure win, btw

Great! I'll try that out.  Thanks

[Skellimancer]

IckyLicks wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

high cunning + lethality = pure win, btw

Great! I'll try that out.  Thanks

With Assassin tree 2points in.

[IckyLicks]

bladesharks wrote...

well rogues are better at long range then going in sword cutting
they are not front line fighters

So you think using long range weapons is better suited for this type of class?

[IckyLicks]

Skellimancer wrote...

IckyLicks wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

high cunning + lethality = pure win, btw

Great! I'll try that out.  Thanks

With Assassin tree 2points in.

Great! That might be what I needed to be more efficient.

[Skellimancer]

IckyLicks wrote...

bladesharks wrote...

well rogues are better at long range then going in sword cutting
they are not front line fighters

So you think using long range weapons is better suited for this type of class?

Get 4 points stealth and enjoy melee. only fight you may wan't to use ranged is the high dragon.

[AshParadox]

@OP: Are you kidding? Rogues are totally devastating. My biggest regret was making my first PC a warrior. Warriors are not all that good at fighting. They're only good as a meat shield, IMO, and I would happily try a game without using a single warrior except where Alistair is obligatory, but a Rogue is basically a prerequisite of survival. Want to win fights? Have a dual-dagger rogue in your party, somewhere.

Modifié par AshParadox, 14 décembre 2009 - 05:40 .

[IckyLicks]

wanderon wrote...

The rogue is not an "I win" button like it could be for some D&D games (fighter/thief was absurdly powerful in the BG series second only to the ranger/cleric perhaps) but I can hardly bring myself to choose a non-rogue for DA:O since the class is so versatile and useful.

I don't expect the rogue to be an "I win" class.  I expect it to be efficient. 

[IckyLicks]

AshParadox wrote...

@OP: Are you kidding? Rogues are totally devastating. My biggest regret was making my first PC a warrior. Warriors are not all that good at fighting. They're only good as a meat shield, IMO, and I would happily try a game without using a single warrior except where Alistair is obligatory, but a Rogue is basically a prerequisite of survival. Want to win fights? Have a dual-dagger rogue in your party, somewhere.

Hmmm, I guess I'm just not feeling their power as I did in other D&D type games.

[XOGHunter246]

my rouge hits 80-90s frequently

[jasonirma]

I love using Zevran in my party: he is now a level 14 and offers devastation. Biggest issue is getting him behind the enemy in the kill zone. I also love traps. Once I scout out the enemy via stealth, landing a few traps...using my mage to then toss in paralysis and turning the highest level mob to stone. It's a quick fight.



Using dual wielding daggers is key (avoid swords).

[Seclus]

i am building a str dex rogue .. she is a total beast atm i am lvl 8 and I am ripping stuff apart.