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#351
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Is today bloody Christmas or what?!

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oh my god... - silver card single use supply items - this is a horrible joke, how am i ment to max out my "4th gear slot silver card equipment" now, as everytimes a silver card is recived - it will be a rank 3 single use supply item??? - just recived my victory and commendation pax and spent 100 000 credits in vet-pax for exact that purpose - trying to recive that "4th gear slot silver card equipment" - but no way - the vic and com pax where full of silver cards - all ammo screw ups - and the vet paxes silver cards where all just single use supply item insults as well - the change of character cards to be able to reach their max-out state as well, i very much appreciate - finally! very good move, i wasnt really daring to hope for this anymore, thanx4that, really - but the silver card change leaves me really clueless, this cant be serious, right? so there might be one thing i have really not gotten so far: this new rank3 silver card single use supply item stuff is able to get maxed out as well? whats the limit then, community - please tell me anyone - but please dont say its 255 as well - because if its like that, it would be really as bad as it looks to me by now... .

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Somebody post M. Bison video, if it isn't here already.

THANK YOU. You made PSPs worth anything again, just a week or two after I maxed out the Rare guns, and I'm just a few character cards away from maxing them out. AND you fixed the manifest, so it shows 4 cards for Geth, Phoenixes, QMs.

THANK YOU.

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HELLHOUND_ROCKO wrote...

oh my god... - silver card single use supply items - this is a horrible joke, how am i ment to max out my "4th gear slot silver card equipment" now, as everytimes a silver card is recived - it will be a rank 3 single use supply item??? - just recived my victory and commendation pax and spent 100 000 credits in vet-pax for exact that purpose - trying to recive that "4th gear slot silver card equipment" - but no way - the vic and com pax where full of silver cards - all ammo screw ups - and the vet paxes silver cards where all just single use supply item insults as well - the change of character cards to be able to reach their max-out state as well, i very much appreciate - finally! very good move, i wasnt really daring to hope for this anymore, thanx4that, really - but the silver card change leaves me really clueless, this cant be serious, right? so there might be one thing i have really not gotten so far: this new rank3 silver card single use supply item stuff is able to get maxed out as well? whats the limit then, community - please tell me anyone - but please dont say its 255 as well - because if its like that, it would be really as bad as it looks to me by now... .


Please use a basic form of grammar and formatting. No one is going to read what you wrote there.

Had you read Jessica's post you'd know, that only if you maxed your kits you'd receive said consumables. Meaning: Had you bought those Vet Packs yesterday you wouldn't have gotten any more gear, but character cards instead. The gear drop-rate has not been changed. At all.

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Siran wrote...

HELLHOUND_ROCKO wrote...

oh my god... - silver card single use supply items - this is a horrible joke, how am i ment to max out my "4th gear slot silver card equipment" now, as everytimes a silver card is recived - it will be a rank 3 single use supply item??? - just recived my victory and commendation pax and spent 100 000 credits in vet-pax for exact that purpose - trying to recive that "4th gear slot silver card equipment" - but no way - the vic and com pax where full of silver cards - all ammo screw ups - and the vet paxes silver cards where all just single use supply item insults as well - the change of character cards to be able to reach their max-out state as well, i very much appreciate - finally! very good move, i wasnt really daring to hope for this anymore, thanx4that, really - but the silver card change leaves me really clueless, this cant be serious, right? so there might be one thing i have really not gotten so far: this new rank3 silver card single use supply item stuff is able to get maxed out as well? whats the limit then, community - please tell me anyone - but please dont say its 255 as well - because if its like that, it would be really as bad as it looks to me by now... .


Please use a basic form of grammar and formatting. No one is going to read what you wrote there.

Had you read Jessica's post you'd know, that only if you maxed your kits you'd receive said consumables. Meaning: Had you bought those Vet Packs yesterday you wouldn't have gotten any more gear, but character cards instead. The gear drop-rate has not been changed. At all.

oh ja - i misunderstood the meaning of the word "drop" together with the new silver card single use supply item stuff in the official post - english is not my native language, so i 1st thought full of hope it means that the rate at wich they are recived would "drop down" at some point - what would make no sense, right - so it was just "drop out" too and this means that its even worst, as my experience of reciveing no 4th gear slot silver card equipment anymore, but only this new silver card single use supply items instead - even an unlimited state is, untill this experience wasnt just big coincidence and ike that, this an overreaction - well, the next days of me3-gaming will let me know exactly... .

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ol MISAKA lo

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I'm sorry, but I fail to understand how 99,000 credits is worth 2 rank IV single use consumables. At least character cards let me level those bad-at-low-level classes faster.

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I had lost hope in seeing this ever. Now I'm sad I spent so much last week :(

Good work, good change <3

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I bought a PSP today and still got two vorcha soldier cards even though I have all characters and weapons (exept UR) maxed out. So not sure if its been fixed yet... maybe they should announce when they area applying said fix. I welcome it

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Oh, what a surprise today. I'm going to spend my 1M earned yesterday :D

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I'm hoping for the level six explosive incendiary ammo as one of those :D

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Oh, thank you developers, this issue has been so incredibly frustrating!

Now I don't have to resist throwing something every time I get the Geth Engineer.....several weeks after I maxed it out.

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Babbylonian wrote...

That you would like to be able to get everything out of one or two packs (your XP and chances at URs) where others - perhaps the majority, to boot - were getting virtually nothing out of any pack isn't really a good argument for the old system.

You're right! It's not...

Which is why I have been arguing for a system that can keep both camps happy since before this change was announced.

It seems like nobody at Bioware was listening though... *sigh*

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I'd rather have 250k exp than a one use ammo.
Is it at least easier to get uncommon/rare gear?

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Oz not Ozzy wrote...

Babbylonian wrote...

That you would like to be able to get everything out of one or two packs (your XP and chances at URs) where others - perhaps the majority, to boot - were getting virtually nothing out of any pack isn't really a good argument for the old system.

You're right! It's not...

Which is why I have been arguing for a system that can keep both camps happy since before this change was announced.

It seems like nobody at Bioware was listening though... *sigh*


So true!

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 Thank you

#366
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As a non-promoter I am looking very much forward to this change

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So, do we already know if it will be stronger versions of Ammo we already have, or entirely different ammo, like.... Polonium/tungsten rounds?

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Firmijn wrote...

So, do we already know if it will be stronger versions of Ammo we already have, or entirely different ammo, like.... Polonium/tungsten rounds?


They put a "IV" instead of a "III" in front of a few things.

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thats... allright i guess...

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I am disappointed, I was really hoping that I would be at least a little easier to get ultra rares, but it will be just as hard as before. The only change is we will get ammo instead of character cards. I have a ton of level 2 and 3 ammo equipment, I really wanted to upgrade my ultra rares.

Modifié par ClockworkSpectre, 27 juin 2012 - 11:18 .


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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Mass Effect 3’s Multiplayer has been an interesting journey
for BioWare. Over the last few months, we’ve been watching player behavior,
talking to our players on the forums and in the game lobbies, and playing the
hell out of the game at home. Based on all of that, we’ve been trying to make
adjustments to the game within our post-ship limitations, our capacity for
development and testing, and our ability to patch or update.

We want you to know that we’ve been listening. We’ve heard
your feedback about character unlocks and training in the Reinforcement Packs,
and we’re poised to make some great changes in these areas. Specifically, we
want you to get new content faster and have a satisfying replacement drop once
you have all of the new kits. To this end, we’ve removed
Character kit cards as rare drops[1] after all appearance options have been
unlocked
[2] and we’ll be introducing a new powerful Rare Ammo type that will drop
when you’ve maxed out your kits[3]

We hope you enjoy these changes, and we look forward to
seeing you in game!


Promising change, but you Bioware guys are really good at creating new questions with every answer you give:

[1] So this only affects rare characters, not uncommons and commons? I still get those character cards when maxed out?

[2] Is this per character or overall? Imagine I have character A fully unlocked, but not character B. Can I still get a character A card?

[3] All kits maxed out or just the character cards? Will I get this new ammo if my weapons aren't maxed out yet?

Overall it's still unclear wether maxing out a character increases the chance to get something which isn't maxed out yet (either a character, weapon, weapon mod or gear).

Any insights on how this random lottery exactly works (calculations, if/then/else, etc) would be appreciated.

Modifié par feldinor, 27 juin 2012 - 11:23 .


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Siran wrote...

Had you read Jessica's post you'd know, that only if you maxed your kits you'd receive said consumables. Meaning: Had you bought those Vet Packs yesterday you wouldn't have gotten any more gear, but character cards instead. The gear drop-rate has not been changed. At all.


According to user "Stinja" on page 13, that's not the case. He received level IV ammo even though he had unmaxed gold characters:

Siran wrote...

So just spent a million credits on regular Spectre Packs, results I got:

- new level IV ammo
- common and uncommon character cards (already maxed)
- non-maxed gold character cards (no maxed duplicates received)
- a bunch of Gear
- no duplicate consumables once 255


Reading Jessica's post, I thought you only get level IV ammo if all of your Gold gear (characters, weapons) is maxed.

Modifié par ozthegweat, 27 juin 2012 - 11:27 .


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Bioware > All other companies, fantastic news. I never knew a company to be so in touch with its player base and to constantly evolve the experience based on community feedback, Double Fine come close. Thank you Bioware.

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UKresistance wrote...

I'd rather have 250k exp than a one use ammo.
Is it at least easier to get uncommon/rare gear?



Am I right in thinking that, if you promotr, you'd still be getting the character cards anyway as the characters aren't maxed out?

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ol MISAKA lo wrote...

I'm sorry, but I fail to understand how 99,000 credits is worth 2 rank IV single use consumables. At least character cards let me level those bad-at-low-level classes faster.


This. I'd rather get character cards with 250,000 XP to level up my promoted chars FAST! And I could increase the war assets in SP fast! But now the PSPs, are just JEPs with 3x price??? Dafuq?
Sorry, if I misunderstood the conception, but I think character cards were much more useful than some one-use ammo s**t, IF THE SAID CHARACTER IS BELOW LVL 20 right? 
Or we will get char cards if we have maxed chars in customization but not in level?
Again, sorry if this was stated somewhere, but I can not find any official explanation from Bioware.

I don't want to seem like an ungrateful dog, and I appreciate the efforts of making the reinforcement packs better, but I think, that character cards were not completely useless, and the new changes have made the PSPs now completely useless...