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[Sylverlynxx1]

Millafan4526 wrote..

"...if enough people complain will you change it back..or does Bioware only listen to one group of whiners"

Exactly. That's how everything got 'nerfed' up in the first place.

My characters are pretty much maxed out, and I only have UR weapons left, so all I get now is ammo/gear

[FeralJester616]

xWARx DEMON wrote...

HELLHOUND_ROCKO wrote...

roughly 1 day after the hugher "change bundle" - and here an early summary about it from me, because i think it is needed... 

...i claim bioware to have failed to put to practice the me3-communitys wants concerning the "unlimited character-card issue" as - sure, removing the possibility to gain this cards for characters you have allready maxed out in appearance-option unlocks is a great move, a by almost everyone of us very much appreciated one, i guess...
 
...but...  
 
it looks like they have got us the classic "one step forward, two steps back scenario" here, as - i think we all where annoyed by it, not out of the shear beeing a little technical incorrectness of it, but out of a certain reason that came along with it: it seemed to "steal away" the gold and silver card space in the packs with drops of (for non-promoters like me, even by 100%) useless/ not existing content, instead of letting us recive missing items/ their upgrade-levels out of the other  !!three!!  - thats right: the other three "max-out-able" gear groups(weapons, their mods - and let us not forgett the "4th gear-slot equipment" that introduced with the rebellion dlc) or of course, instead of missing characters/ missing customise options for them.

This one speaks the truth. I don't want ammo drops if I don't have my gear or characters maxed out stronger ammo should only be awarded to people who have everything maxed. Including ultra rare
and i do not think that bioware misunderstood this - in the original post about the change stood: "Specifically, we want you to get new content faster and have a satisfying replacement drop..." - and so on, 
but as with the same change process, they also changed level 3 consumables to silver cards and introduced level 4 consumables (guess it is really just level 4 one-mission ammo-powers so far) that are dropped as gold cards, what means that they destroyed the wanted benefits of the good move to remove the maxed-out character card dublicates with the same process, as in the result - we have players (like me), that already have all common, uncommon and rare guns, their mods and every character maxed out, but (unlike me) forgotten this newer"max-out-able" "4th gear-slot equipment" arguing about what better was - xp for credits and all consumables as commons - or like now, even more consumables & better ones instead, while i repeatedly saw reports from players that have still weapons or characters to upgrade/ "to train" and talked to buddys currently in this position, that are saying that this silver and gold card consumables are dropped out to them as well... .
so, yeah - the summary is: the current, chaotic state of silver and gold card consumables being dropped out to everyone in almost every of the more pricey and the reward packs does not help anyone and seems to at least completely torpidate the character-card change effort, 
maybe even mathematicaly worses the main reason why it has annoyed (guess almost all of) us.
 
- so my guess is, they should either make sure that this silver and gold card consumables are not dropped to anyone who has still uncommon and rare gear to level up/ max out 
(what would really result in the change we, surely all where hoping for),or they should at least give the other uncommon and rare stuff that still waits to be maxed out "a more than fair chance" to be dropped in comparison to the consumables (what i think we have not yet - i do not know the dropout-rates for the newer players that still have main gear stuff to recive/ max - but as it is just for the comparison to the "4th gear-slot stuff" - i say "more than fair" rates look very different). like this state we have now, i say the goals are not met (it was posted: "Specifically, we want you to get new content faster and have a satisfying replacement drop..." - riiiiiight, me too!) - but instead, at best nothing has changed from out the main issue - maybe it was even worsen with the "change-bundle".
 
so - yep, and again it is still the old song:
 
FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! ......

I'd just like to say this is even better than my agument. So please guys, give us what we actuallt want and not more crap we don't need...

[Mihail0125]

Its very intresting, but how about gear powers up?
Сan we receive them ?
I've asked because I bought 5 elite spectrum packs, but i didn't receive any gear.

[ChurchOfZod]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

I for one love this change. Finally I can have a steady supply of warp and ap ammo, and level Iv at that. Awesome.

THIS. With the 100 or so character cards I've gotten in the last month's worth of PSP this is a welcome and fine change.

[LiarasShield]

some characters need them level 4 shields like the cerberus vanguard lol

[Anzakness]

Ohm, it's a nice idea.
But now, I'm only getting gold ammo type (IV) or silver 1-use gear in normal and premium specter packs. No weapons or 4th gear-slot D:!

[Bedlam74]

Praise be to the Shepard. No more character cards, ever.

[SHARXTREME]

Millafan4526 wrote...

Thanks guys I just spent 99000 for 2 lvl 4 single use items

and it looks like the character cards have been replaced with the lvl 4 (or lvl 2 in the case of uncommons)

so basically once I have customization options unlocked I can't get XP cards

which really sucks

if enough people complain will you change it back..or does Bioware only listen to one group of whiners

Amazing, Truly amazing. They bring great change, one that everybody wanted, and now you ask to remove this fix because of what? You lvl up with character cards and only play one class?  

No, Bioware won't change it back because you whine(as you puti it yourself). One of the biggest mistakes for any MP community, is for developers to listen to EVERY single small opinion. That way whiners have ruined so many MP games, which they rarely play because, logically, they don't really like the game they constantly whine about on forums, am I right?

I would lovw more maps, characters, and maybe Yagh or something else as a new enemy, or to lvl up some N7 weapons, but I don't WHINE about it, If it comes, it comes. If not, I can still enjoy the game, 

[keru_90]

Rare consumables is a true mistake. I mean, the wrost thing that i could imagine is buying a spectre pack and finding a consumable.

[FeralJester616]

Seems like most of you have been blinded by the "Oh, New Shiney" effect...

Sad, so sad...
The issue hasn't been fixed. Just changed.

[Olivia Wilde]

SHARXTREME wrote...

Millafan4526 wrote...

Thanks guys I just spent 99000 for 2 lvl 4 single use items

and it looks like the character cards have been replaced with the lvl 4 (or lvl 2 in the case of uncommons)

so basically once I have customization options unlocked I can't get XP cards

which really sucks

if enough people complain will you change it back..or does Bioware only listen to one group of whiners

Amazing, Truly amazing. They bring great change, one that everybody wanted, and now you ask to remove this fix because of what? You lvl up with character cards and only play one class?  

No, Bioware won't change it back because you whine(as you puti it yourself). One of the biggest mistakes for any MP community, is for developers to listen to EVERY single small opinion. That way whiners have ruined so many MP games, which they rarely play because, logically, they don't really like the game they constantly whine about on forums, am I right?

I would lovw more maps, characters, and maybe Yagh or something else as a new enemy, or to lvl up some N7 weapons, but I don't WHINE about it, If it comes, it comes. If not, I can still enjoy the game, 

Not everybody wanted the change just the group that ****ed louder

I never wanted the change and was voiciferous in that regard

so when you say "everybody" you mean "some people"

And I still enjoy the game, so don't assume that's what i meant

[Pavs719]

well I for one am annoyed. I would like to max my gold gear and some ultra rare weapons. I have played today and from all packs all i got was ammo drops, silver gear (Maxed Out), no upgrades for the things I would like. I think the silver gears are the new character cards bug. I have had the same cards from 9 packs. I don't want to be bothered anymore.

[OblivionDawn]

keru_90 wrote...

Rare consumables is a true mistake. I mean, the wrost thing that i could imagine is buying a spectre pack and finding a consumable.

No, the worst thing is buy a spectre pack/PSP and not getting any Gold cards.

AKA, recieving character cards when the character is already maxed out.

[jgcasa]

Well, let me enter this discussion saying that I can't believe the community asked to ban the character cards...Who would want start bronze or silver because you have a level 1 character ? Well, to start with, the promoting system is very dumb, as long as the N7 level doesn't really put you as better player than anybody. It just tells that you promoted and played more that other people. Why not rank up for the xp, or even the acumulated points you have ? Dumb system...Now, If I promote, I have to play with a level 1 character...well this is stupid...much more stupid than a level up card when you have that character already maxed out. THey didn't improve anything...Just make it worst...

[ELSQuantum0000]

Let's hope this will improve my chances of getting my own Cerberus Harrier next time I get a Premium Spectre Pack.

I'm totally down for this new update.  It's about time I get something different than character cards in my packs.  I mean, character cards are nice in giving experience points, but I also like ammo consumables too, especially if for instance, I decide to use something else than a Piercing Mod for my weapons.

Modifié par ELSQuantum0000, 28 juin 2012 - 02:37 .

[Pavs719]

ELSQuantum0000 wrote...

Let's hope this will improve my chances of getting my own Cerberus Harrier next time I get a Premium Spectre Pack.

I'm totally down for this new update.  It's about time I get something different than character cards in my packs.  I mean, character cards are nice in giving experience points, but I also like ammo consumables too, especially if for instance, I decide to use something else than a Piercing Mod for my weapons.

Don't hold your breath, ive had 6 psp and all i got was ammo drops.   

[CapitateGoose]

Me, opening a PSP:
Yay - finally got a gold gear ....... what? it is single use !?!?!?!

Me, opening a veteran pack:
Yay - got a silver gear ........ what? it is single use, level 3 ? I got plenty of these before and all were blue.

The good thing is I am not going to get another 50 Salarian Infiltrators before getting one Vorcha ....

[UKillMeLongTime]

well i used to promote 3 or more characters and spend the $$ to get a level 8,12,14 right off the bat and go right back easily into a gold game

hum, now kinda can't do that unless buying recuit packs gives you cards still

my only gripe was lvl 20s getting cards thus wasting XP. now it just wastes the drop with a 1 time use item....for 99,000 or 60,000....hum...kinda sucks

[ELSQuantum0000]

Pavs719 wrote...

ELSQuantum0000 wrote...

Let's hope this will improve my chances of getting my own Cerberus Harrier next time I get a Premium Spectre Pack.

I'm totally down for this new update.  It's about time I get something different than character cards in my packs.  I mean, character cards are nice in giving experience points, but I also like ammo consumables too, especially if for instance, I decide to use something else than a Piercing Mod for my weapons.

Don't hold your breath, ive had 6 psp and all i got was ammo drops.   

On the bright side, at least now I'm not getting four Batarian Sentinel cards in a row by buying psp's.  At least I could use these new drops for later, but kinda sad that I still haven't got the Black Widow or Cerberus Harrier.  Oh well.  One day I'll get them eventually, just like the day when I got the M-90 Indra, by luck.

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Again I have to say I'm very happy with the change. Rare consumables are needed to keep people buying I think, though making unique ammo would have been more fun. Something like Tungstan Heavy Impact ammo. Anyway I prefer getting rare consumable ammo over character cards because all character cards just disappeared for me since I had all characters maxed out in apparence and level.

[Aiiro]

Oh my god, thank you so much.

[jokey javik]

Interesting well this should be interesting to see.

[X-Com_Psi_Amp]

guys.. the drop rate isn't changing

the only difference now is that Lv.4 ammo drops if you receive a CC for a maxed out uncommon or gold character

if you don't have any maxed out rare characters, Lv.4 ammo won't drop at all

would you rather have a redundant CC?

Modifié par X-Com_Psi_Amp, 28 juin 2012 - 05:38 .

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

Worse than before.
Really worse than before.
Much worse than before.

This IS BAD.
I foresee so much frustration.
This is really going to kill the game in 2 weeks if it's not changed.

People must have ALL maxed up, gear included before getting the ammo...also only 1 piece of consummable, really?
I don't mind the overall idea, I don't mind characters card either (I really prefer them to consummables actually) but AFTER ALL my uncommon and rares are maxed out.

[shiroBaka]

I'm glad to see the cards gone, all the people that scam there N7 score without building the class over and over from scratch by dare I say it, playing that class. Shouldn't we all be a bit more understanding about the bugs that still need to be worked out, it just went live last night.. I say thanks for all the hard work you guys and gals at BW do. I like to play