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Walhorin wrote...

random is random


Wise. However, random with 10% probability may be a little different than random with 90% probability.
Think of a dice: if you hit 1 you get gold gear/gold weapons.
if you hit 2,3,4,5 or 6, you get gold ammo.
if you hit 1 six times in a row, that you get UR.

Then think of a dice with 100 faces, which dictates what you get next.
you hit 1, you get UR
you hit 2 or 3, you get gold gear.
anything else (4,5,6...99, 100) is gold consumables.

Modifié par CapitateGoose, 13 juillet 2012 - 08:50 .


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It's also worth remembering that the packs only give you ammo in a situation when you were supposed to get something else that's already maxed out. So you could be in a situation which goes like this:

Slot (Hypothetical) Probabilities: 01 - 50% Weapon, 51 - 80% Character, 80 - 95% Gear/Mod, 96 - 100% Ultra-Rare.

First # 35. However, because you've already maxed all weapons, you get an Ammo.

Second # 66. Again, because you've maxed all characters, you get another Ammo.

So really, you were supposed to get two different items, but due to your manifest, you think you got Ammo twice. This situation is probably even more exaggerated for people who've maxed out their Gear.

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I must say after 2 weeks I got better stuff.
Maybe the priorities have been changed for real

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Man, for the first week I got no Gears at all, these past 2 weeks been better though. The Ammo 4 thingy is a real plus for this game. I only had N7 720 for my rating, but at this point I don't mind having better ammo equipment then characters cards at all.

Hack and slash on gold all the time and now finally having better weapon equipment to go with, it's a real progression. Playing this since the demo, didn't think it would last this long an appeal for me, but it's doing alright.

Still got new Gears to upgrade and everything too. Thought I maxed out on all weapons except ultra rares, and giving up the game, but they keep coming up with new stuff that make this game matter.

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This was posted 19 days ago? I was playing 19 days ago before I got the Black Hole and I still got the same classes after unlocking all the appearances for it. What the hell?

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I didn't have the patience to read through every single page in this thread, but I did read some of them at least. And it seems that others have already commented on this subject before. I still want to have my say anyway:

I'm not satisfied with what I get from equipment packs. Namely the characters I get - or rather, the lack of characters. I've bought sooooo many Premium Spectre Packs since Rebellion came out and I've only unlocked ONE new character class.

Sure, the fact that I wanna try all the new classes keeps me hooked, but not for long. After a while, I get frustrated and stop playing. When I download the new Earth DLC, I want to be able to actually PLAY some of the new characters within the next week. I don't want to have to buy dozens and dozens of packs and spend weeks just hoping to get what I want from equipment packs.

In short: Please, increase the chances of getting new character classes or make a pack available that gives only characters. Even if it costs like half a million.

- captain Bonham, hard-core ME-fan from Finland

Modifié par captain Bonham, 16 juillet 2012 - 08:48 .


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@SasoChicken: Were those characters Common (blue) classes? If so, those keep dropping even after they're maxed, but only rarely. If it's Uncommon/Rare classes you're talking about, that sounds like a bug. Have you updated your ME3 client to the latest version? One way to check if you're running the latest version is to see how much XP the Common classes are giving you. If they give 62,500 XP, you should be right. If they're still giving 12,500, update your client.

@Captain Bonham: You're like a reverse complainant of what most people were griping about prior to the update! There's not much I can really advise apart from "be patient and be persistent." Now that Rare characters stop dropping once they're maxed, if you keep at it, you WILL unlock all the new classes eventually.

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Zaxares wrote...

@Captain Bonham: You're like a reverse complainant of what most people were griping about prior to the update! There's not much I can really advise apart from "be patient and be persistent." Now that Rare characters stop dropping once they're maxed, if you keep at it, you WILL unlock all the new classes eventually.



Hmm. Okay, but that's exactly my problem: eventually. It's going to take forever for me to get the new classes. I don't want to wait forever, I want to get my hands on the new stuff as soon as I've downloaded it. I mean, what's the point of creating new classes if you have to sweat your ass off for a month before you get to play them? And at that point you're so frustrated that you can't even enjoy the new class you just got.

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Zaxares wrote...
@SasoChicken: Were those characters Common (blue) classes? If so, those keep dropping even after they're maxed, but only rarely. If it's Uncommon/Rare classes you're talking about, that sounds like a bug. Have you updated your ME3 client to the latest version? One way to check if you're running the latest version is to see how much XP the Common classes are giving you. If they give 62,500 XP, you should be right. If they're still giving 12,500, update your client.

No it gives me things like (hang on, I need to remember- I haven't played ME3 for about 2 weeks since it went Black Hole on me)...... Drells (I think those are Gold), Batarian soldiers, you have no idea how many Geth Infiltrators I've gotten long after filling up all the appearances. And keep in mind I have every single class to level 20, and practically every single appearance for every single person except for both Vorcha, Batarian sentinel, and maybe a couple other things. I don't need the experience anymore, I just want the rest of the appearances.

(and I have no idea what a client is)

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Bioware seriously needs to hire some statisticians. I am graduating next year. Wouldn't mind to work in Montreal. :)

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captain Bonham wrote...

I didn't have the patience to read through every single page in this thread, but I did read some of them at least. And it seems that others have already commented on this subject before. I still want to have my say anyway:

I'm not satisfied with what I get from equipment packs. Namely the characters I get - or rather, the lack of characters. I've bought sooooo many Premium Spectre Packs since Rebellion came out and I've only unlocked ONE new character class.

Sure, the fact that I wanna try all the new classes keeps me hooked, but not for long. After a while, I get frustrated and stop playing. When I download the new Earth DLC, I want to be able to actually PLAY some of the new characters within the next week. I don't want to have to buy dozens and dozens of packs and spend weeks just hoping to get what I want from equipment packs.

In short: Please, increase the chances of getting new character classes or make a pack available that gives only characters. Even if it costs like half a million.

- captain Bonham, hard-core ME-fan from Finland


+ 9999999999999999999999999999999

#787
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Stopped buying premium spectre packs since the introduction of the level 4 ammo, its just not worth it anymore. Instead, been buying veteran packs for medigels, cobra missiles and weapon upgrades. Was able to max out most of my weapons, and keep a good stockpile of medigels and cobra missiles, more value than a level 4 ammo.

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I might be part of the minority that actually likes this random system as it is right now. I haven't unlocked all characters yet, but almost. And I'm kind of glad, because there is still something to look forward to. If it was possible to get the most interesting cards too easily or too quickly, it just wouldn't hold the same appeal. The changes they have made recently certainly helped, too. I suppose it also depends on whether you consider receiving high level consumables a good thing or not - I certainly don't mind.

captain Bonham wrote...

In short: Please, increase the chances of getting new character classes or make a pack available that gives only characters. Even if it costs like half a million.


The latter could keep everyone happy, while no taking the choice away from those who don't want to see characters cards appear too often. 

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I don't mind the randomness either- what I mind is getting a Geth Infiltrator 20 times in a row even though I have all the appearances for it and every single class I have is 20 so I don't need any more experience, despite the fact that some of my classes still aren't even unlocked or have all of their appearances.

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SasoChicken wrote...

I don't mind the randomness either- what I mind is getting a Geth Infiltrator 20 times in a row even though I have all the appearances for it and every single class I have is 20 so I don't need any more experience, despite the fact that some of my classes still aren't even unlocked or have all of their appearances.


Maybe you should promote some lvl 20 classes, so the XPs you get from the packs have more value? :)

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I hate promoting. I don't want to get all my high level attacks back. If I want more interest, I'd play on Gold, or the new Platinum if I ever get another copy of Mass Effect 3

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We need more pack types.

Like DLC specific.

Or fixed packs that have a pool of certain items.

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SasoChicken wrote...

I don't mind the randomness either- what I mind is getting a Geth Infiltrator 20 times in a row even though I have all the appearances for it and every single class I have is 20 so I don't need any more experience, despite the fact that some of my classes still aren't even unlocked or have all of their appearances.


Yeah, I think you might still be using an old client. I had a look at your manifest and you definitely shouldn't be getting Geth and Batarian characters anymore. Are you using Origin on PC? Try right-clicking on your ME3 game entry and select "Check for Update" from the menu that appears.

I recommend checking for an update every time a DLC pack is released, and whenever balance changes are announced by the devs. You can tell Origin to keep your games up to date automatically, but it doesn't always seem to work, so I always do it manually.

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In short: Please, increase the chances of getting new character classes or make a pack available that gives only characters. Even if it costs like half a million.


I agree with this statment. Freaking ridiculous to buy nothing but PSP's for two months and never get a new character.

#795
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Why do I still get human sentinel character cards when my appearance options are maxed out AND he is at level 20 already?!

#796
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With having almost everything unlocked, i just get junk now. : ( It's been that way since the change.

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I haven't read through all the comments of this thread, but I think the code to give out level 4 equipment needs to be updated.
Now with the Earth DLC, I should not be getting any level 4 equipment as I don't have any Earth DLC characters and I haven't max'ed out the characters from the previous DLC, but I'm still getting level 4 equipment. I'd much rather have new characters than any equipment.
Note: I purchased 22 Premium Specter Packs today after getting the DLC, and I only got 2 new N7 characters. :( (Note: I even maxed out my equipment to 255 before buying PSPs.)

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Look, I understand that you want it to be random so that people will not always get exactly what they want (surprise is good), play your game forever so as to never trade it in and maybe spend real money every now and then buying a reinforcement pack. But today you released 139 new Gold cards (thank you!). So along with the old Gold cards I do not have (over 150 cards missing as of today) I will never unlock all of it. Lets not even talk about the Ultra Rares, I have accepted I will never get all of those.

What would help to stay motivated to buy packs, is assurance that none of that level IV ammo will take the place of one of the items I do not already have unlocked. I'm happy to continue playing with friends and enjoying the game, but part of the draw for us is to also unlock new stuff. I do not farm gold, play almost exculsively silver, but even if I did at roughly 30 minutes per game it would take 150 hours or more to get all that stuff.

So really can you make the change for all of us who cannot afford 150 hours or the $$$ to get all that stuff. It will go a long way to keeping us fully engaged. Please remove lvl 4 ammo from the possible drops until we max out everything please?

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So I haven't unlocked all the new characters with Earth DLC, but I'm already getting Rank 4 ammo in my packs...

From my understanding, it's not supposed to work this way, and I guess this is a bug?

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Windry wrote...

So I haven't unlocked all the new characters with Earth DLC, but I'm already getting Rank 4 ammo in my packs...

From my understanding, it's not supposed to work this way, and I guess this is a bug?


No that is incorrect, it is still possible to get the Rank 4 ammo packs without having everything unlocked.