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[Carlthestrange]

Velocithon wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

Actually, I thought it was no more ending DLC's. As in, DLC's that forcus on the ending.

Pre-ending DLC that would result in changes and/or expandsion of the endings wasn't ruled out. At least, hopefully.

Yes well, i'll try not to clutch at straws for the time being, no matter how much I want to. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Andy the Black]

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

 

Bioware lie. Chris Priestly has said many times that they lie. BUT I am not getting my hopes to high just yet.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 28 juin 2012 - 08:52 .

[insomniak9]

Carlthestrange wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

"So the Reapers did not fully exterminate their creators."
One Thorian remains.

"This Leviathan thing can just kick you out of your own head?"
Yep, Thorians will do that to ya.

"Leviathan had its own private army."
Zhu's Hope?

oh yeah, and "That mining facility... everyone there under Leviathan's control. It reminded me of Feros."
Indeed.

Also, the Thorian wasn't killed, you just sent it deep down into an abyss.

That'd suck if it turned out to be the Thorian, tbh.

This is the creator of the Reapers?

I am disappoint.

Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

[Carlthestrange]

insomniak9 wrote...
Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

Starkid said that Reapers were based on the form of their creators...

Reapers look nothing like the Thorian.

[Velocithon]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

Actually, I thought it was no more ending DLC's. As in, DLC's that forcus on the ending.

Pre-ending DLC that would result in changes and/or expandsion of the endings wasn't ruled out. At least, hopefully.

Yes well, i'll try not to clutch at straws for the time being, no matter how much I want to. I'll believe it when I see it.

Oh of course. I'm not getting any hopes up. That's just the only thing that will get me to buy the DLC. Else, forget it.

[insomniak9]

Carlthestrange wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...
Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

Starkid said that Reapers were based on the form of their creators...

Reapers look nothing like the Thorian.

He is their creator 

[Carlthestrange]

Velocithon wrote...

Oh of course. I'm not getting any hopes up. That's just the only thing that will get me to buy the DLC. Else, forget it.

Too true. While the endings are more plausable now, any single player DLC still feels completely pointless.

[Carlthestrange]

insomniak9 wrote...
He is their creator 

Reapers: EWWWWWWWW

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

I actually quite like the sound of this. And I think if it actually does add dialogue to the Catalyst, the original intent of the endings is far more clear. The whole "Speculation from Everyone!" and the insulting DLC pitch at the end make sense. I think they figured leaving more to be desired in the endings would increase interest, instead of igniting a rabid fanbase. Then they release this DLC, perhaps it's a rather big one, which adds more to the endings and the Reaper origin story we deserved. It's pretty shady, and would just be a marketing stunt gone horribly wrong if true. Perhaps the statement that we would keep our saves if we knew what they were working on wasn't limited to the Extended Cut, but also this?

[Andy the Black]

Anyone think we might have had this by now if they didn't have to work on the EC?

[Ansible]

insomniak9 wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...
Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

Starkid said that Reapers were based on the form of their creators...

Reapers look nothing like the Thorian.

He is their creator 

No. Did you not listen to waht he said at all?

[Ansible]

Andy the Black wrote...

Anyone think we might have had this by now if they didn't have to work on the EC?

I think this DLC would've made a lot less sense, and a lot less money if they didn't work on the EC.

[insomniak9]

looloolooigotsomeapples wrote...

I actually quite like the sound of this. And I think if it actually does add dialogue to the Catalyst, the original intent of the endings is far more clear. The whole "Speculation from Everyone!" and the insulting DLC pitch at the end make sense. I think they figured leaving more to be desired in the endings would increase interest, instead of igniting a rabid fanbase. Then they release this DLC, perhaps it's a rather big one, which adds more to the endings and the Reaper origin story we deserved. It's pretty shady, and would just be a marketing stunt gone horribly wrong if true. Perhaps the statement that we would keep our saves if we knew what they were working on wasn't limited to the Extended Cut, but also this?

Definitely this, more than anything else I've read on here. 

The whole speculation from everyone was ill thought out, but it's ideal marketing. 
All marketing in recent years yearns to be viral. This proves that viruses can sometimes run uncontrollably away from their original purpose. 

[M Hedonist]

Andy the Black wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

 

Bioware lie. Chris Priestly has said many times that they lie. BUT I am not getting my hopes to high just yet.

Yup. They also said in their original EC FAQ they wouldn't add any new endings. Nothing's ever set in stone with Bioware.

[insomniak9]

Ansible wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...
Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

Starkid said that Reapers were based on the form of their creators...

Reapers look nothing like the Thorian.

He is their creator 

No. Did you not listen to waht he said at all?

What did I miss? 

The Reapers were his solution. He forceably created the Reapers from the Creators.

[TenkoTAiLS]

Mr Apples my good sir, you may be on to something. From those files and the txt we can see it is possibly going to add lines and dialog options to the talk with the Catalyst. If these DLC's that take place before the ending actually alter the endings more, and even give the reject option more purpose then it's possible they were trying some kind of ploy with the original endings being so vague. But like you said, it totally backfired on them, people got angry, it spread like wildfire, but in a bad way.

Now if they had said at the end "keep your save as future DLC will answer all the questions you seek and could possibly change your ending" would people have still been mad? Yeah probably, since they would be having to pay extra for the "real ending" but it probably would have gotten people more curious as to how the endings could change and what they were gunna do at the same time.

[Ansible]

Sauruz wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

 

Bioware lie. Chris Priestly has said many times that they lie. BUT I am not getting my hopes to high just yet.

Yup. They also said in their original EC FAQ they wouldn't add any new endings. Nothing's ever set in stone with Bioware.

I don't think it's lying. I just think when they say "no more ending DLC" they just mean no moe changes like the EC.

Adding some extra dialouge, which already fits in the context of the existing dialouge with the Catalyst, to address some new DLC would not be a bad idea, and if you have a DLC based on the origin of the Reapers, it's clear that Shepard might bring that up when talking to the Catalyst

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

Sublyminal wrote...

Wonder if this is what Gamble meant when he said "if only you knew what we had planned for you"

I'm honestly beginning to wonder if the whole PR fiasco, the whole Weekes leak, the whole everything was set up from the beginning. I mean think about it, ME3 has been talked about for many many months, if they did something like what I stated, then ME3 would go down in history as the greatest game of all time....

I just thought I'd quote this to give you credit for having my idea first

[Ansible]

insomniak9 wrote...

Ansible wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

insomniak9 wrote...
Thorian didn't die, it just fell into a big hole. An abyss, if you will.
It even looks and sounds like a Reaper when it drops. 
The Catalyst created the Reapers, from the Thorians. They didn't create them. 

Starkid said that Reapers were based on the form of their creators...

Reapers look nothing like the Thorian.

He is their creator 

No. Did you not listen to waht he said at all?

What did I miss? 

The Reapers were his solution. He forceably created the Reapers from the Creators.

"My Creators gave them form, I gave them function, they in turn give me purpose"

I didn't mean to sound like a dick, but I took that as "The Reapers were the Geth of that cycle. They were created by the creators. Things started to get a little rocky, and then the Catalys gave them a new "Function". Which was harvesting the first race.

This also confirms that the created did also rebel against the creators, even the first time around.

EDIT: More info.

He says the Reapers are the Synthetic representation of my creators. And then When Shepard asks what happend to them, he says they became the first TRUE Reaper.

Like I said, the Reapers were at first just Robots that resembled their creators, like how if we made a robot it would probably look human. The "true" Reaper would be when the Catalyst took ove, and made them merge with the creators.

Modifié par Ansible, 28 juin 2012 - 09:31 .

[Andy the Black]

Ansible wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Guys, Bioware has said multiple times that they will NOT make more dlc involving the endings...

 

Bioware lie. Chris Priestly has said many times that they lie. BUT I am not getting my hopes to high just yet.

Yup. They also said in their original EC FAQ they wouldn't add any new endings. Nothing's ever set in stone with Bioware.

I don't think it's lying. I just think when they say "no more ending DLC" they just mean no moe changes like the EC.

Adding some extra dialouge, which already fits in the context of the existing dialouge with the Catalyst, to address some new DLC would not be a bad idea, and if you have a DLC based on the origin of the Reapers, it's clear that Shepard might bring that up when talking to the Catalyst

Indeed. There will probably not be anymore DLC like the EC. But DLC that adds to the finle dialouge with the Catalyst could well be on the cards. However, you never can tell with BioWare.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 28 juin 2012 - 09:31 .

[Mr.House]

The stuff with Starbrat is interesting. But if harbinger is the first ever Reaper, why was he ignored at the end? That just makes no sense. It was foreshadowed harbinger was the first, the files prove it, so why ignore him unless he will play a massive role in the upcoming dlc?

[insomniak9]

"What happened to the Creators?"
"They became the first true Reaper. They did not approve."

StarAI created Reapers by harvesting the Creators.

Modifié par insomniak9, 28 juin 2012 - 09:35 .

[kaotician]

The notion of a connection between the Reapers and Thorians is one I first aired a few years ago on here. However, my own view is not that the Thorians are the de facto first Reapers, but rather that their capability was added to the Reapers after they were uplifted. I think this is likelier because I just don't see the Thorians themselves being particularly technological. I can't see them needing or inventing AI in the first place, which would also have to have happened. They wouldn't need to, as they could just sequestrate the technology of others, through sequestrating others.

Then again, asset sequestration and 'ascension' - they're not too dissimilar, are they?

Modifié par kaotician, 28 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[Mr.House]

Thorian being the creators is not really that far fetch. They are very old creatures. The one on Feros was asleep for around fifty thousand years.