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[RyMann88]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Or the Leviathan can just give us the information we need to perfect the crucible to the point we can use the DESTROY option without killing the Geth and EDI

The main thing with this is that if they buff up the Destroy ending, they'll end up having to buff up the other endings as well. Killing the Geth and EDI was to balance out Destroy from being the most attractive option.

I'm in favor of SP DLC impacting the endings in small ways.

But a definitive ending is definitive. Saying anything that doesn't directly impact the ending choices is pointless is like saying prequels are pointless.

The only ending that needs a buff is refusal. Bioware has the perfect opportunity to give the fans one last thing they want with the endings, a reunion, with the Leviathan DLC. They don't even have to point it out either, just slip it in there without our knowledge and let us find it on our owns. It'd do great for their relationship with us.

[GreenSoda]

Becker2 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Becker2 wrote...

I wonder how Bioware plan to continue Shepards story in Leviathan DLC if Shepard became a giant reaper himself. Would it include different gameplay? I mean Normandy captain's quarter might be little small for him now

This DLC would take place before the endings. Bioware made it very clear the Extended Cut is the only ending related DLC they planned to release.

If that DLC would take place before the ending then why would anyone wanna play it?  Or am i the only one who feels that way? I already have done the perfect ending anyway , why would i invest more time and do more missions to get same endings. All the ME2 DLC´s took place after the main story i think they should do the same with ME3

...that is not true. You could play all of the DLC before the end. Some of the DLC actually makes more sense before the suicide mission.

[MegaSovereign]

RyMann88 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Or the Leviathan can just give us the information we need to perfect the crucible to the point we can use the DESTROY option without killing the Geth and EDI

The main thing with this is that if they buff up the Destroy ending, they'll end up having to buff up the other endings as well. Killing the Geth and EDI was to balance out Destroy from being the most attractive option.

I'm in favor of SP DLC impacting the endings in small ways.

But a definitive ending is definitive. Saying anything that doesn't directly impact the ending choices is pointless is like saying prequels are pointless.

The only ending that needs a buff is refusal. Bioware has the perfect opportunity to give the fans one last thing they want with the endings, a reunion, with the Leviathan DLC. They don't even have to point it out either, just slip it in there without our knowledge and let us find it on our owns. It'd do great for their relationship with us.

Buffing up refusal to where the fleets defeat the Reapers conventionally would be narrative breaking. It's been pounded into our heads that the Reapers can't be defeated through conventional tactics.

I'll tell you what people REALLY want. A destroy ending that doesn't kill off the Geth/EDI and one that has an LI reuniion. THAT'S what people want. If they gave people that, hardly anyone would continue ****ing about the ending.

Going off-topic anyway.

[Nerevar-as]

I´m half expecting to find out Reapers are indoctrinated too and they are actually very nice guys, favoring Synthesis even more.

[Deltateam Elcor]

Nerevar-as wrote...

I´m half expecting to find out Reapers are indoctrinated too and they are actually very nice guys, favoring Synthesis even more.

Expecting?

They are the very essense of what they emit, ofcourse they are, but it may or may not be more like self delusion instead.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Hmmm.

[Volc19]

Nerevar-as wrote...

I´m half expecting to find out Reapers are indoctrinated too and they are actually very nice guys, favoring Synthesis even more.

Well, I wouldn't call it indoctrination, but they are being controlled by the Catalyst. This will likely make synthesis more popular, along with making Destroy and Control a bit less appealing. Destroy because players become aware that the Reapers themselves aren't responsible for their genocidal tendancies, and Control because it make players question just how strong Shepard's control over them is with a non-controlled Reaper.

[TenkoTAiLS]

@MegaSovereign
I would'nt call whipping out a renegade reaper "conventional means" but maybe that's just me

[Colancio]

A rogue reaper interesting, it make sense what Sovereign told us in ME1 about them being independent

[Andy the Black]

GreenSoda wrote...

Becker2 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Becker2 wrote...

I wonder how Bioware plan to continue Shepards story in Leviathan DLC if Shepard became a giant reaper himself. Would it include different gameplay? I mean Normandy captain's quarter might be little small for him now

This DLC would take place before the endings. Bioware made it very clear the Extended Cut is the only ending related DLC they planned to release.

If that DLC would take place before the ending then why would anyone wanna play it?  Or am i the only one who feels that way? I already have done the perfect ending anyway , why would i invest more time and do more missions to get same endings. All the ME2 DLC´s took place after the main story i think they should do the same with ME3

...that is not true. You could play all of the DLC before the end. Some of the DLC actually makes more sense before the suicide mission.

Right. Only two of Mass 2's DLC canalogically (spelling?) takes place after the SM: Shadow Broker and Arrival. And I'm not even 100% sure on LotSB lol.

MegaSovereign wrote...

RyMann88 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Or the Leviathan can just give us the information we need to perfect the crucible to the point we can use the DESTROY option without killing the Geth and EDI

The main thing with this is that if they buff up the Destroy ending, they'll end up having to buff up the other endings as well. Killing the Geth and EDI was to balance out Destroy from being the most attractive option.

I'm in favor of SP DLC impacting the endings in small ways.

But a definitive ending is definitive. Saying anything that doesn't directly impact the ending choices is pointless is like saying prequels are pointless.

The only ending that needs a buff is refusal. Bioware has the perfect opportunity to give the fans one last thing they want with the endings, a reunion, with the Leviathan DLC. They don't even have to point it out either, just slip it in there without our knowledge and let us find it on our owns. It'd do great for their relationship with us.

Buffing up refusal to where the fleets defeat the Reapers conventionally would be narrative breaking. It's been pounded into our heads that the Reapers can't be defeated through conventional tactics.

I'll tell you what people REALLY want. A destroy ending that doesn't kill off the Geth/EDI and one that has an LI reuniion. THAT'S what people want. If they gave people that, hardly anyone would continue ****ing about the ending.

Going off-topic anyway.

I think the problem with giving us an ending, either through refusal or destroy, that lets us win without some sort of massive price would make the other options far less attractive. As it is right now I think all four choices are balanced quite well, everyone has their own opinion on which is best and why. And I think that's the point. I think far more people would pick an ending were we could defeat the Reapers without the Catalyst or destroy AND keep EDI and the Geth alive than would choose synthesis or control.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 01 juillet 2012 - 11:33 .

[Versus Omnibus]

Volc19 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

I´m half expecting to find out Reapers are indoctrinated too and they are actually very nice guys, favoring Synthesis even more.

Well, I wouldn't call it indoctrination, but they are being controlled by the Catalyst. This will likely make synthesis more popular, along with making Destroy and Control a bit less appealing. Destroy because players become aware that the Reapers themselves aren't responsible for their genocidal tendancies, and Control because it make players question just how strong Shepard's control over them is with a non-controlled Reaper.

Nah, people would still think synthesis is worse then letting the Reapers win.

[Dean_the_Young]

Interesting enough, I suppose. I actually don't like the Leviathan of Dis subplot as it stands now, given how it wiped out the Batarian and Arrival subplot, but a rogue Reaper could be interesting in concept. Mind you, how it went rogue is a relevant question in regards to the ending, but not unsurmountable.


Less interesting, and more disappointing, is the self-delusion of people who are hyping themselves up about this being some ending-changing workaround for the Reject ending. This manufactured hype is entirely on them, but when it fails to pan out the people who will be blamed will be Bioware for failing to deliver something they never promised and repeatedly denied.

[Taboo]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Less interesting, and more disappointing, is the self-delusion of people who are hyping themselves up about this being some ending-changing workaround for the Reject ending. This manufactured hype is entirely on them, but when it fails to pan out the people who will be blamed will be Bioware for failing to deliver something they never promised and repeatedly denied.

Oh God...

From what I have heard about the game files in the EC here is that it WILL add dialouge with the Catalyst.

Which people will complain about again I'm sure.

But I can't be sure.

[Chala]

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

[garrusfan1]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

I don't have a twitter account so they confirmed it

[Andy the Black]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

What?! If they are still working on the story and script then this thing could still be months away.

But I take solace in rule 1: The Doctor BioWare Lies. Especially Chris Priestly. He is 'Evil' Chris for reason.

[Chala]

Andy the Black wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

What?! If they are still working on the story and script then this thing could still be months away.

But I take solace in rule 1: The Doctor BioWare Lies. Especially Chris Priestly. He is 'Evil' Chris for reason.

On the other hand:
They pushed aside most of the work dedicated to the DLCs so they can focus on the EC.

But also it's clear that the voice actors recorded more than just a few sentences.

So maybe they'll release first other dlc (Omega?) and then Leviathan.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:21 .

[Andy the Black]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

What?! If they are still working on the story and script then this thing could still be months away.

But I take solace in rule 1: The Doctor BioWare Lies. Especially Chris Priestly. He is 'Evil' Chris for reason.

On the other hand:
They pushed aside most of the work dedicated to the DLCs so they can focus on the EC.

But also it's clear that the voice actors recorded more than just a few sentences.

So maybe they'll release first other dlc (Omega?) and then Leviathan.

That's a good point. The rumors of a "Take Back Omega" DLC have been floating around for some time.

Also, does anyone else think it's odd that Chris didn't just say "Leviathan? What's that?". Instead he said they were working on it. Mmmmmmmmmmm....
Of course there is a good chance I'm reading to much into it.

[7he Island Head]

Look a screen shot!

[Fingertrip]

Oh look, it's the troll again.

[B.Shep]

Interesting tweet....it is always good to hear some kind of confirmation.

[dreamgazer]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Err... Guys?
Have you seen this tweet?
https://twitter.com/...573863359590400

Fan: - "Lots of rumours of new DLC.. Leviathan.. Interesting"
Chris: - "As far as I know. Last I heard they're working on the story and script."

What do you think?

They wrote up the dialogue to plant in the extended cut ... yet they're working on the story?

That seems a little incongruous, but, hey. (shrug)

[ThusSpokeZarathustra]

Taboo-XX wrote...

As long as we don't get a Reaper called Zarathustra I'll be fine.

Hey!!

Amazing find OP! I sincerely hope something salutary to the community will come out of this discovery.

[Chala]

7he Island Head wrote...


Look a screen shot!

I won't lie...
Your trolling is a bit good (I laughed when I fell in one of yours), but doing it on a comment is not as effective as reading a misleading title.

[XFeroxX]

Volc19 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

I´m half expecting to find out Reapers are indoctrinated too and they are actually very nice guys, favoring Synthesis even more.

Well, I wouldn't call it indoctrination, but they are being controlled by the Catalyst. This will likely make synthesis more popular, along with making Destroy and Control a bit less appealing. Destroy because players become aware that the Reapers themselves aren't responsible for their genocidal tendancies, and Control because it make players question just how strong Shepard's control over them is with a non-controlled Reaper.

Ok thats kind of half true. The Catalyst is the Reaper master AI and he says it himself that hes the amalgamation of all the reaper's minds, representing the mind of each and every reaper as one. I see it as similar to the Geth Consensus. And for anybody who may say "the catalyst is a liar" I;m a tad bit tired of that argument, I think the catalyst simply is what it is, an AI thats dissallusioned with the answer he created to solve a problem.

Modifié par XFeroxX, 02 juillet 2012 - 03:29 .