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[garrusfan1]

7he island head I see what you meant about that pic know hahhaha

[7he Island Head]

Sarevok Synder wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

What in the Nine Hells is that!?

It had better be fake........

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

[Sarevok Synder]

7he Island Head wrote...

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

It has to be fake...........it has to be.....

[Aurvant]

7he Island Head wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

What in the Nine Hells is that!?

It had better be fake........

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

lol, fake but funny.

That's the dig site you find Liara at in ME1 with a imposed human reaper in the background..I lol'd heartily.

[Aedara]

7he Island Head wrote...

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

Shoo troll. 

[7he Island Head]

Aurvant wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

What in the Nine Hells is that!?

It had better be fake........

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

lol, fake but funny.

That's the dig site you find Liara at in ME1 with a imposed human reaper in the background..I lol'd heartily.

You go back to the dig site to unearth more war assets. Liara left like 23 war asset points there! What a fool! 

[nicethugbert]

This implies there will be a Levithan of N and a Leviathan of Dat.

[SirLugash]

Andy the Black wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...


To be fair to the Catalyst he was probably only tasked with "protecting" life in the Milky Way, and possibly it's satellite galaxies. Synthetics in other galaxies were probably not considered a threat dew to the vast distances, and that they could exceed the Reapers is somthing I doubt would even enter he's... em... mind(?).

Though I had often wondered if the Reapers had harvested the life in other galaxies in the Local Group, or even that of just Andromeda and its satellite galaxies.

Also, the idea of a synthetic threat from outside our galaxie is an interesting idea. Maybe the Reapers were the only thing keeping somthing eles at bay, much like 8472 did to the Borg for a time. Anyway better get back on topic befor they shut us down...
So this Leviathan thing is intriguing, isn't it?

It was tasked with protecting Organics from Synthetics. It being too stupid to see its "plan" was doomed to failure from the beginning is down to it and nothing else. The vast distances would be nothing for Synthetics, they don't age. There is no evidence the Reapers have advanced since they first came into being, and considering the current cycle species can destroy many of them and they only had fifty thousand years, you can be damn sure a Synthetic race that's been advancing for hundreds of millions of years, maybe longer, will hand them their ass.

Starclown failed at its task spectacularly. The only reason the Milkyway hasn't been overrun by Synthetics has nothing to do with it, it didn't happen because it was wrong. It's nothing more than a flawed AI with circular logic forming its decisions.


Leviathan shows that there are no guarantees with either the control or synthesis endings. It shows there is no chance of controlling the Reapers indefinitely.

You make a good point about synthetics not being concerned with distances between galaxies, they could, after all, just shut down for the tens of thousands of years it would take them to complete the journey.

I don't really see the Catalyst as stupid, more that he is limited by the constants of his programming. It can't really conceive of anything it's not programmed to.

The race who made the Catalyst and the first Reaper were concerned about the synthectic/organic relationship in their days.
Assuming they weren't able to travel to other galaxies, the Catalyst's task would also only apply to our galaxy.
And we know that the Reapers don't travel to other galaxies, Vigil tells us they remain in dark space until it's time to reap again.
Also, Reapers depend on the Mass Relays to travel thorugh the galaxy, so even if they actually would travel between galaxies (whioch I don't think is true), they would have established a relay connection.

About Synthetics from other galaxies trying to invade our galaxy:
Considering the Reapers existed for millions or billions of years, one would believe that, if Synthetics want to invade our galaxy at all, they would have tried in this huge time span.
As far as we know, that didn't happen yet.
That means either of these things:
- Synthetics haven't tried yet / Don't want or need to
- Synthetics tried, but the Reapers took care of it

Modifié par SirLugash, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:04 .

[Seifer006]

it was fake.




but good try though

[Sarevok Synder]

SirLugash wrote...

The race who made the Catalyst and the first Reaper were concerned about the synthectic/organic relationship in their days.
Assuming they weren't able to travel to other galaxies, the Catalyst's task would also only apply to our galaxy.
And we know that the Reapers don't travel to other galaxies, Vigil tells us they remain in dark space until it's time to reap again.
Also, Reapers depend on the Mass Relays to travel thorugh the galaxy, so even if they actually would travel between galaxies (whioch I don't think is true), they would have established a relay connection.

About Synthetics from other galaxies trying to invade our galaxy:
Considering the Reapers existed for millions or billions of years, one would believe that, if Synthetics want to invade our galaxy at all, they would have tried in this huge time span.
As far as we know, that didn't happen yet.
That means either of these things:
- Synthetics haven't tried yet / Don't want or need to
- Synthetics tried, but the Reapers took care of it

Or a third and far more likely option; Starclown is simply wrong. Given how long it would take them to reach here, the Synthetics would be far more advanced than the Reapers on arrival, they wouldn't be able to stop them. No, most likely they didn't rise up and destroy their creators elsewhere, or just didn't have the overriding purpose of "MUST KILL EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T LIKE US" going on, as Starclown said they would.

Modifié par Sarevok Synder, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:31 .

[Andy the Black]

SirLugash wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...


To be fair to the Catalyst he was probably only tasked with "protecting" life in the Milky Way, and possibly it's satellite galaxies. Synthetics in other galaxies were probably not considered a threat dew to the vast distances, and that they could exceed the Reapers is somthing I doubt would even enter he's... em... mind(?).

Though I had often wondered if the Reapers had harvested the life in other galaxies in the Local Group, or even that of just Andromeda and its satellite galaxies.

Also, the idea of a synthetic threat from outside our galaxie is an interesting idea. Maybe the Reapers were the only thing keeping somthing eles at bay, much like 8472 did to the Borg for a time. Anyway better get back on topic befor they shut us down...
So this Leviathan thing is intriguing, isn't it?

It was tasked with protecting Organics from Synthetics. It being too stupid to see its "plan" was doomed to failure from the beginning is down to it and nothing else. The vast distances would be nothing for Synthetics, they don't age. There is no evidence the Reapers have advanced since they first came into being, and considering the current cycle species can destroy many of them and they only had fifty thousand years, you can be damn sure a Synthetic race that's been advancing for hundreds of millions of years, maybe longer, will hand them their ass.

Starclown failed at its task spectacularly. The only reason the Milkyway hasn't been overrun by Synthetics has nothing to do with it, it didn't happen because it was wrong. It's nothing more than a flawed AI with circular logic forming its decisions.


Leviathan shows that there are no guarantees with either the control or synthesis endings. It shows there is no chance of controlling the Reapers indefinitely.

You make a good point about synthetics not being concerned with distances between galaxies, they could, after all, just shut down for the tens of thousands of years it would take them to complete the journey.

I don't really see the Catalyst as stupid, more that he is limited by the constants of his programming. It can't really conceive of anything it's not programmed to.

The race who made the Catalyst and the first Reaper were concerned about the synthectic/organic relationship in their days.
Assuming they weren't able to travel to other galaxies, the Catalyst's task would also only apply to our galaxy.
And we know that the Reapers don't travel to other galaxies, Vigil tells us they remain in dark space until it's time to reap again.
Also, Reapers depend on the Mass Relays to travel thorugh the galaxy, so even if they actually would travel between galaxies (whioch I don't think is true), they would have established a relay connection.

About Synthetics from other galaxies trying to invade our galaxy:
Considering the Reapers existed for millions or billions of years, one would believe that, if Synthetics want to invade our galaxy at all, they would have tried in this huge time span.
As far as we know, that didn't happen yet.
That means either of these things:
- Synthetics haven't tried yet / Don't want or need to
- Synthetics tried, but the Reapers took care of it

I agree, as I said the Catalyst was probably only tasked with the "protection" of organics in the Milky Way.

However there is no way to know for certain.
The Citadel has to be connected to a twin relay in dark space. Maybe this relay connects to others Citadels in other galaxies. Linking galaxies through the relay networks may have been considered to risky, as having more that one galaxie to wipe out would be a lot more work that one at a time. Or maybe it just wasn't possible to do with the conventional relays, we have no idea what there limits are, if indeed the have any.

Maybe extragalactic synthetics have tryed to invade and ran into the Reapers. There is very little left of anything before the Protheans, so we would probably never know. Plus there is also the fact that any conflict between the Reaper and said synthetic would take place in dark space, well beyond our galaxie.

But this all just fun speculations, and way off topic. And I'm tired.

[shepard1038]

Sarevok Synder wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

The race who made the Catalyst and the first Reaper were concerned about the synthectic/organic relationship in their days.
Assuming they weren't able to travel to other galaxies, the Catalyst's task would also only apply to our galaxy.
And we know that the Reapers don't travel to other galaxies, Vigil tells us they remain in dark space until it's time to reap again.
Also, Reapers depend on the Mass Relays to travel thorugh the galaxy, so even if they actually would travel between galaxies (whioch I don't think is true), they would have established a relay connection.

About Synthetics from other galaxies trying to invade our galaxy:
Considering the Reapers existed for millions or billions of years, one would believe that, if Synthetics want to invade our galaxy at all, they would have tried in this huge time span.
As far as we know, that didn't happen yet.
That means either of these things:
- Synthetics haven't tried yet / Don't want or need to
- Synthetics tried, but the Reapers took care of it

Or a third and far more likely option; Starclown is simply wrong. Given how long it would take them to reach here, the Synthetics would be far more advanced than the Reapers on arrival, they wouldn't be able to stop them. No, most likely they didn't rise up and destroy their creators elsewhere, or just didn't have the overriding purpose of "MUST KILL EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T LIKE US" going on, as Starclown said they would.

Starclown really? And besides this is off topic.

[7he Island Head]

7he Island Head wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

[incinerator950]

Sometimes I'm glad I never finished my Rogue Reaper Fanfiction. Other times like now, do I regret coming up with it in the first place.

[Indenter]

Seems weird stuff.

Didn't Balak say that the Leviathan indoctrinated some batarians, who then sabotaged stuff and let reapers onto the non indoctrinated batarians?

So what's with him going all bro like with organics.

[Festilence]

Indenter wrote...

Seems weird stuff.

Didn't Balak say that the Leviathan indoctrinated some batarians, who then sabotaged stuff and let reapers onto the non indoctrinated batarians?

So what's with him going all bro like with organics.

Guess we may find out.

[incinerator950]

Festilence wrote...

Indenter wrote...

Seems weird stuff.

Didn't Balak say that the Leviathan indoctrinated some batarians, who then sabotaged stuff and let reapers onto the non indoctrinated batarians?

So what's with him going all bro like with organics.

Guess we may find out.

Speculation Integrity Abound

[xsdob]

Festilence wrote...

Indenter wrote...

Seems weird stuff.

Didn't Balak say that the Leviathan indoctrinated some batarians, who then sabotaged stuff and let reapers onto the non indoctrinated batarians?

So what's with him going all bro like with organics.

Guess we may find out.

I'm good at speculating and head-cannoning, so if anyone won't mind I'd like to post a theory on this.

Leviathan needed a way off the planet, the reapers attacking presentedto great a risk and it used it's indoctrinated forces to not sabotuage the defense not to allow the reapers to invade, but to allow it to escape the planet without being targeted by the hegemony's forces.

Basically it made sure it wouldn't be shot at and let the whole planet get overrun just to cover for it.

[Indenter]

But that was 20 years ago.
It was found in a crater.
Some batarian "scientists" found it.
Tried to research it?
Returned to report? Being indocrinated, but acting as sleeper agents.
Batarian dreadnought goes to check wassup - no Leviathan found - deny what the frog people say.
Reaper arrival - sleeper agents sabotage.

Not very consistent.

Also, this may not be the thread for this, but the above posts got me thinking - I don't think it is implied that Reapers "are controlled" by starclown. Reapers are nations of people, with the memories and thoughts released. They can still decide for themselves. But starkids part is to convince them that it's his way or no way.
And what does a giant plop of brains, thoughts and memories let you do? It let's you think, think very hard. Like geth, loads of perspectives. So they "calculate" - "duh starclown got it right, we shouldn't have resisted and get turned into goo straight away".

Well Leviathan got very emo and said "**** you starclown". Pretty sure.

Ok no more speculation.

[xsdob]

Indenter wrote...

But that was 20 years ago.
It was found in a crater.
Some batarian "scientists" found it.
Tried to research it?
Returned to report? Being indocrinated, but acting as sleeper agents.
Batarian dreadnought goes to check wassup - no Leviathan found - deny what the frog people say.
Reaper arrival - sleeper agents sabotage.

Not very consistent.

'

They did find the leviathan, and they took it back to the hegemony for further study.

In fact in ME1 the hegemony denies it exsisted and than gets extremly hostile towards the salarian scientist team who than show fotage of the leviathan of dis.

In short, they took it back to their home system and that's when a lot of the important people like the defense minister got indoctrinated, which is why he tried to make everyone stay on the planet by annocuncig to everyone not to evacuate and to remain calm during the reaper invasion as the codex says in the fall of khar'shan.

Also, it's jatar, not griping on this but just pointing out a spelling error.

The rest of your post is okay.

[Sarevok Synder]

shepard1038 wrote...

Starclown really? And besides this is off topic.

Yeah really, it's not too bright.

[The Spamming Troll]

7he Island Head wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

What in the Nine Hells is that!?

It had better be fake........

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

its fake.

thats therum rom ME1.

unless bioware is rehashing ME1 sites.

[Andy the Black]

Well, I guess that settles that. I Tweeted Patrick Weekes about the possibility of the Reapers harvesting other galaxies and he said "saw them as being our galaxy only. In other galaxy, different problems, soldier named Sh'p'rd solving them." Wouldn't mind hearing about this Sh'p'rd though.

[7he Island Head]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

O Noes Biowares did it agians!
http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

What in the Nine Hells is that!?

It had better be fake........

It the Leviathan! The rogue human reaper!!!

its fake.

thats therum rom ME1.

unless bioware is rehashing ME1 sites.

It's real! 

[Mechler]

It's real, but a real ME1 photo. We want ME3 DLC photo. Go back to the Hogwarts dungeon you troll.

Ever5yone else:Still no info on the balak/graybox/underwater thorian/traitor reaper salad?