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Persephone wrote...

As someone who has rolled her eyes at some of the more extreme Retakers...

I want to say thanks. The EC provided nearly everything I had hoped for. (Sorry to those who didn't get that. I know that there are several of you) It's thanks to your persistence, cupcakes, donations etc. that this DLC came about. It enriched my ME3 experience in many ways and I cannot imagine the game without it.

So, from a doubter, once more: Thank you. I know this probably means little to nothing. But I just wanted to express my gratitude & give credit where it's due.

And thank you, Bioware as well. :)


I'm glad it was worth it for some.  And when I step back, I can acknowledge it truly did fix several glaring issues.  I just wish they'd been willing to go that mile or two more, give us just one ending that feels like a real victory.  Ah well. Your thanks are appreciated, atleast by me.  I of course do not speak for the movement as a whole.Image IPB

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Baka-no-Neko

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Thank you!

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SteelRayne_swe wrote...

I don't like the ending as it is and no explanations or cutscenes can change that for my part. I dl'd it but i wont pain myself to hear explanations. I see shepard as a soldier in the alliance navy. Fighting for Earth.. i never hoped for spaceJesus and the rays of cosmic salvation, so the EC is just 2 gb of complete stupid to me :( My ME3 ending is end of ME2 or more so after Arrial DLC when meeting Hackett, or possibly in ME3 after Illusive Mans' base. After that it's just Space DA2 Magic Roll the dice of what ending we make gig.. Can't like it with my way of playinjg shepard, not even with the screw you choice i read about. And fact Geth IV exists in certain circumstances or why Destroying Rachni has no impact. ME3 is just pure Garbage compared to ME1 and 2 in my opinion cause it turns out the way it does. And saving council.. did nothing.. deny specter status in ME2 did nothing.. Pha.. ME3 is odd but fun to play, Not sure i'd put it as Mass Effect 3 tho, maybe ME v3, the standalone you can add some variety to at it's best. We play ME 1 and 2, and our choices can have ramifications in ME3, and CAN certainly was valuable here for bioware, they didnt have to gove a damn and actually do so.

Just happy some people got what they hoped for.


How can you only compare ME3 ending to DA2, when whole ME2 is to ME1, what DA2 is to DA:O? Don't get me wrong, ME2 is great game, but the connection, betwin it and ME1 is close to none, except the characters and some memorys of the past :o

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While I was never a part of the retake movement, I shared many of their frustrations and complaints with the ending. I'm glad to see the EC has made some people who disliked the ending now like it. For me personally, while I do think the EC improves the ending (*SPOILERS* with the exception of the squad evac on Earth and the expanded Synthesis ending *END SPOILERS*) I don't think it changed the biggest problem. We still have Starchild with his ridiculous reason for his and the Reapers' existence. Now, that being said, I wasn't expecting much from the EC with the constant hammering home of "This will only expand on the ending, it won't rewrite it" so I'm for the most part pleasantly surprised with it. The ability to have an actual dialogue with the Starchild and him explaining his and the Reapers' coming about is a plus. So this does make the ending not feel as out-of-place as it did before with Shep unable to question Starchild at all. And I also like the addition of the Refusal ending.

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Well if you go over to their Facebook page most of them are still upset. Which honestly who didn't see that coming? Most of them fundamentally wanted complete rewrite or something to do with indoctrination which I knew from the start wasn't gonna happen. Ironically people crying about it in a weird way made the endings I already liked better and which made me happy and some them angrier. Which I take pleasure in.

Modifié par babachewie, 26 juin 2012 - 11:34 .


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I was really pleased with how the EC turned out. Thanks for showing your appreciation to the Retake movement. I think it was all worth it in the end.

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Saul Iscariot wrote...

Persephone wrote...
I didn't like the endings. So, no. That's not true.

Maybe you thought you didn't like the endings until it was explained to you in a manner similar Sesame Street? There is nothing in the EC that a person with half an imagination couldn't have presumed. I hate how you people must treat literature.


Now you're being condescending.

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MoElfarri wrote...

the upgraded soundtracks made even more satisfied, and I am sure that you should give more credit to Bioware for listening to people. You should blame EA for pushing BW to finish the game so quick


How is EA to blame? Did they not give BioWare a delay? I seem to recall the original release date being sometime around "Holiday 2011." They got a few extra months to work on the game.

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Saul Iscariot wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Joe Del Toro wrote...

The Retake Movement helped provide closure to people who...already liked the ending anyway.

This was one huge, massive waste of time for absolutely everybody involved and I hate you all. *slams door, goes to bed*


I didn't like the endings. So, no. That's not true.

Maybe you thought you didn't like the endings until it was explained to you in a manner similar Sesame Street? There is nothing in the EC that a person with half an imagination couldn't have presumed. I hate how you people must treat literature.

People "treat literature" in ways that work for them.  I would never tell someone how to read a book.  What if their imagination is so "good" they think the reapers are made of chocolate or do you just need people to think the same as you?
Also Sesame Street is brilliant. I still watch it at 26 and thing is they don't talk down to the audience.

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There are more than several of us. BSN just likes to drown us out with locked threads and bans....

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Definitely worth it, I didn't like the old endings but the new ones are great!

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txmn1016 wrote...

I was really pleased with how the EC turned out. Thanks for showing your appreciation to the Retake movement. I think it was all worth it in the end.


Great to see you here, txmn :) It was a long journey, wasn't it? Image IPB

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Darkeus wrote...

There are more than several of us. BSN just likes to drown us out with locked threads and bans....

Because a lot of you are jerkward turds.....no offense.

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Joe Del Toro wrote...

The Retake Movement helped provide closure to people who...already liked the ending anyway.

This was one huge, massive waste of time for absolutely everybody involved and I hate you all. *slams door, goes to bed*


This made me laugh out loud. 

I actually hated it at first this morning, but the more I thought about it and after my MaleShep's ending, I have to admit I kind of dig it. 

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babachewie wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

There are more than several of us. BSN just likes to drown us out with locked threads and bans....

Because a lot of you are jerkward turds.....no offense.


None taken.

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Okay, I HATED HATED HATED the original endings. SO MUCH.

... I liked this. I went in expecting to be utterly disappointed. I instead felt it was extremely well done.

Is it perfect? Oh, hell no. But the fact they managed to address 90% of the massive list of problems the original ending had is impressive. The endings work so much better, the feeling of accomplishment is so much stronger, and the personal investment towards your crew and love interest pays off in dividends.

It's apparent they did listen, they did try, and they did address an overwhelming number of problems people had, and the final product now is significantly more satisfying. It may not be an "A+", but it pretty much went from a flat "F" to an encouraging "B".

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Joe Del Toro wrote...

The Retake Movement helped provide closure to people who...already liked the ending anyway.

This was one huge, massive waste of time for absolutely everybody involved and I hate you all. *slams door, goes to bed*


I feed on your tears.

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While I was always hoping for a possible sunshine and puppies ending, within the boundaries they had to work with, I think Bioware did a great job with the Extended Cut. My biggest problem with the ending was that if it had to end in the manner it did, I wanted to put down my controller and feel like it was worthwhile. I think the EC did exactly that, especially with my preferred Destroy ending. As a friend pointed out, it absolutely should have ended with "Hackett out." That would have made it downright amazing.

As a whole, though, I still think the space magic starchild and "soup dawg i herd u were gonna get killed by synthetics, so i made synthetics to kill you before you get killed by synthetics" is laughable.

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Your welcome!

The extended cut adds something to the ending it originally lacked and now is somewhat better for the effort. It just couldn't reach the potential some people expected of Bioware.

Modifié par Jagri, 26 juin 2012 - 11:48 .


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Chuckles sorry if Ibothered you, but from a critical stand point I can't see how anyone was won over by the EC. If you liked the original endings they simply improve upon them. If you didn't like them but found the EC won you over, I think it is fair to question the imagination of such people. If you still don't like the endings then luv'a duck there is no hope for you, but you have my respect.

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Thank you Retake movment, without you, this EC might not been released, and it has saved the whole series for me. I can't believe Bioware actually made those horrible endings ok, even good in my opinion. It is not perfect, but to me this game now went from Disappointment of the year to game of the year!

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It was a wild ride wasn't it? I'm glad a lot of people are satisfied now, if not happy. While most sane people realized that ReTake would likely never reach it's lofty goal of a complete ending rewrite, the fact that even this was achieved is a monument to perseverance.

I'm happy Bioware did it, whether or not they intended to, the effort is there. They should see the EC as something to be proud of, not something to be feared. And remember, a lot more people benefited from ReTake than just grumpy fans ;)

Modifié par SgtGlory, 26 juin 2012 - 11:53 .


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Yeah, for all the bad press that the gaming journalism community put out regarding the retake movement, I think that in the end it made Mass Effect 3 a better game, and got BioWare to admit to the fact that the game in its launch form wasn't up to the normal BioWare quality in terms of storytelling. I haven't seen the new endings yet, but I'm glad to hear that a lot of people (not everybody, but you can't please everybody) are much happier with them.

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Oh god these endings were exponentially better than the original ones, and they finally have something clear and definitive to distinguish themselves from each other instead of colors. <3

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We, the fans of the franchise, proved to be the most important QA group ever. Thanks to our b**ching around, incountable posts and movements, we made BioWare deliver a better ending.

I do not agree with the Starchild idea, but the rest... finally makes my ME3 worth staying.