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#51
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SneakyDuc wrote...

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Glad to see the people whining and having a tantrum have gotten their way. Gj bioware.

It wasn't a whining thing fact of the matter is Infiltrators were OP. I'm not for grey, but nothing should be able to quickly kill bosses on gold. And the duration shouldn't be a problem because most don't even bother to help regardless. Now you have to make a choice versatility or damage.


Yup. deffinitely NOT reviving YOU, nor am i going to risk MY neck to cap an objective YOU can do just the same!

And why should i bother trying to save you from the heavy? i'll just kill all the individual mobs enemies for you.

Happy now? You just pissed off the wrong sniper.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 26 juin 2012 - 11:24 .


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"Don't expect us to help you", "don't expect us to carry you", blah blah blah.

You shouldn't have been able to carry an entire team in the first place. Good for Bioware, knocking this power down off it's glorified pedestal.

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neteng101 wrote...

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I expect to see a lot more infiltrators blatantly ignoring the objectives.


Yup!  Don't expect free rides from infiltrators carrying teams anymore.


I'm usually the one doing the carrying.

If anything, I'm even more tempted to play an infiltrator in a lobby that already has 2 or more because I can't count on my infiltrator team mates to take the duration bonus on cloak.

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InfamousResult wrote...

"Don't expect us to help you", "don't expect us to carry you", blah blah blah.

You shouldn't have been able to carry an entire team in the first place. Good for Bioware, knocking this power down off it's glorified pedestal.


We couldn't carry before, we save you from heavies like we were MEANT to.

We saved you when you fell. like we were MEANT to.

But now we can't. And won't even try.

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

SneakyDuc wrote...

Nickle wrote...

Glad to see the people whining and having a tantrum have gotten their way. Gj bioware.

It wasn't a whining thing fact of the matter is Infiltrators were OP. I'm not for grey, but nothing should be able to quickly kill bosses on gold. And the duration shouldn't be a problem because most don't even bother to help regardless. Now you have to make a choice versatility or damage.


Yup. deffinitely NOT reviving YOU, nor am i going to risk MY neck to cap an objective YOU can do just the same!

And why should i bother trying to save you from the heavy? i'll just kill all the individual mobs enemies for you.

Happy now? You just pissed off the wrong sniper.


I feel like you need to take a deep breath. You might be taking minor balance changes in a video game a bit too personally. :)

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Ashen Earth wrote...

I expect to see a lot more infiltrators blatantly ignoring the objectives.


This. Get ready to start completing objectives as a team, folks, because the infilitrator has more than likely chosen the damage evolution

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holdenagincourt wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

SneakyDuc wrote...

Nickle wrote...

Glad to see the people whining and having a tantrum have gotten their way. Gj bioware.

It wasn't a whining thing fact of the matter is Infiltrators were OP. I'm not for grey, but nothing should be able to quickly kill bosses on gold. And the duration shouldn't be a problem because most don't even bother to help regardless. Now you have to make a choice versatility or damage.


Yup. deffinitely NOT reviving YOU, nor am i going to risk MY neck to cap an objective YOU can do just the same!

And why should i bother trying to save you from the heavy? i'll just kill all the individual mobs enemies for you.

Happy now? You just pissed off the wrong sniper.


I feel like you need to take a deep breath. You might be taking minor balance changes in a video game a bit too personally. :)


Not the balance changes, the stupid people who whinned and moaned for them. The people who got their feelings hurt when Infils did their jobs and saved their pathetic butts. the ones who couldn't do it themselves and got offended when we did it for them.

THOSE people ****** me off.

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Finnegone wrote...

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I expect to see a lot more infiltrators blatantly ignoring the objectives.


This. Get ready to start wiping on wave 3, folks, because the infilitrator has more than likely chosen the damage evolution


Fixed that for you.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 26 juin 2012 - 11:30 .


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I don't see how this makes people become a team player at all.
like if they nerfed the time in TC some people will not even bother with the objectives anymore.

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Change didn't bother me...I use cloak for damage exclusively...

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Just played a game with the new changes.  I love it.  No longer can I just run around ignoring everything, you have to pick and choose when you want to stealth and be careful about reviving teammates and doing objectives.  It's a challenge again.  

Watching another infiltrator on my team get owned over and over again was pretty funny too.  

:lol:

This will seperate the real infiltrators from the bad ones, and I love it.

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And now the BS starts.

Enters gold lobby.

Player: u spec for duration?
Me: no.
XXX
*Youve been kicked from the lobby.*

Modifié par darkblade, 26 juin 2012 - 11:34 .


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As i review the changes... This is not really bad... If you use the infiltrator as a sniper then they will feel a pinch... Shotgun and AR inf are just fine.

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what is this talk about "carrying" and "we".who is WE?A certain class does not carry a team.a good player does ,no matter the class.

yes Infiltrator was heavily used by the playerbase but i can tell 90% of them were below average or average at best.

Infiltrator had the Hunter syndrome,if you ever played WoW.every noob could play them but not everyone could play them to full effect.so dont talk about carrying.i have seen enough Gold lobbies where i had to do devices as a Soldier/Engineer and revive the Infiltrator multiple times per match.in fact the vast majority of my public games look like this.

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

We couldn't carry before, we save you from heavies like we were MEANT to.

We saved you when you fell. like we were MEANT to.

But now we can't. And won't even try.


1. The team should work together to destroy heavies. Just like they should work together to do anything of notice.

2. Saving teammates is still in your best interest, just like any other class. Infiltrator was never the only class that could run over and revive somebody- they just had the CHOICE to do it more safely, just like they have the CHOICE to do it safely now, too. Which leads me into 3..

3. That speaks volumes over what kind of team player you were all along. I wouldn't want you in my team anyway.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

I expect to see a lot more infiltrators blatantly ignoring the objectives.


basically

this is what i dont understand about people being happy they changed infiltrators: why are you happy that bw is trying to dictate what characters we, the players, should play?....i dont use infilitrator like that, but so what if people picked infilitrator 33% of the time in gold matches? that's their choice....you, i, nor bw has the right to try to tell anyone what character, class, or weapons to use in the game...

bw says they're listening to the community, but that doesnt seem to be the case...it seems they are listening to the vocal minority, and not the majority....the majority said infilitrators were ok, and that all the complaining is cause people are getting outscored....but they made the changes anyway....i highly disagree with the changes made strictly from a gaming standpoint....this could be a bad sign for things to come, and they just stepped on a slippery slope that could lead to people not playing....

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darkblade wrote...

And now the BS starts.

Enters gold lobby.

Player: u spec for duration?
Me: no.
XXX
*Youve been kicked from the lobby.*


You're lucky. at least they gave you a chance. I show up in gold and get 3 X's straight off. i come in as an engineer? nothing, switch to an Infil? 3 X's.

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whateverman7 wrote...

basically

this is what i dont understand about people being happy they changed infiltrators: why are you happy that bw is trying to dictate what characters we, the players, should play?....i dont use infilitrator like that, but so what if people picked infilitrator 33% of the time in gold matches? that's their choice....you, i, nor bw has the right to try to tell anyone what character, class, or weapons to use in the game...

bw says they're listening to the community, but that doesnt seem to be the case...it seems they are listening to the vocal minority, and not the majority....the majority said infilitrators were ok, and that all the complaining is cause people are getting outscored....but they made the changes anyway....i highly disagree with the changes made strictly from a gaming standpoint....this could be a bad sign for things to come, and they just stepped on a slippery slope that could lead to people not playing....


YES!

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I only use cloaking to get a powerful shot off, when I play infiltrator. People actually use it to run around cloaked, so as not to have too much aggro on them?

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trunglefever wrote...

Change didn't bother me...I use cloak for damage exclusively...

ditto :ph34r:

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Just played a match, didn't notice a difference.

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Gornok wrote...

As i review the changes... This is not really bad... If you use the infiltrator as a sniper then they will feel a pinch... Shotgun and AR inf are just fine.


Exactly, they did the OPPOSITE of what they should've done. they basically just nerfed true Infils, and let the Shotty and spray infils run wild.

So don't look at me when all the snipers stop, and every infil is using a claymore.

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squidney2k1 wrote...

QQ thread, to the max.


This.

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morph4037 wrote...

trunglefever wrote...

Change didn't bother me...I use cloak for damage exclusively...

ditto :ph34r:


And THAT is how we got a bad name, because of people like YOU.

If you jerks had worked as a team in the first place we wouldn't have gotted nerfed!!

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Nygeo2 wrote...

I only use cloaking to get a powerful shot off, when I play infiltrator. People actually use it to run around cloaked, so as not to have too much aggro on them?


Yeah, believe it or not some infiltrators did use cloak to complete objectives for everyone else's benefit.

Public games are going to be a nightmare now