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#151
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I don't think they should have implemented the sniper damage nerf. The only sniper that was a problem was the krysae, however I think this will have a major negative impact on snipers like the black widow and valiant, which were hardly a problem. I haven't tried it yet but I'm guessing you'll need some high level equipment to get the same one shot kills as before.

Other than that it looks fine, but I don't really agree with the sniper nerf. Other than the krysae shotgun infiltrators were always better anyway.

Weapon damage has been boosted across the board for me anyway. I haven't had a conistent supply of warp and AP ammo in a long time, now I can easily get my hands on level freaking 4 packs of the things easily, using those should make up for the base damage loss in TC.

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landylan wrote...

is this a joke? it's the same if you pick up the duration bonus

im ninjerred erryday


Actually it's not.. 8 seconds + 50%(4) = 12 seconds; 4 seconds + 150%(6) = 10 seconds

Honestly, if they're going to nerf the damage bonus, AND cut down the default duration, the upgrade should be atleast 200%, so atleast the duration would be the same 12 seconds as before.

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Princess Rolf wrote...

Because only the Infils benefit from gear, riiiight....

No, but they do recieve the most benefit from them. That 80% adds up quite nicely for the first multiplier and with Sniper Rifles all damage gets 25% extra.

#154
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Infiltrators are dead now. There's no point in playing them anymore, since they can't do any of the roles they had before.

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Bergioynn wrote...

Infiltrators are dead now. There's no point in playing them anymore, since they can't do any of the roles they had before.


Maybe you should just play a soldier instead then?

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**** you all for nerfing TC!!! Because of you ****heads, The Infiltrator has no purpose anymore!!!! You just can't admit that you ****ing suck at ME3 Multiplayer!!!!!!! **** YOU ALL!!!!! And I'm ****ing OUT OF HERE!

Modifié par Sixteen Sixty-Six, 27 juin 2012 - 09:32 .


#157
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Indeed. We are in the same deadweight class now. This just bugs me really much because I really enjoeyd my support FQI. I could take the sabotage nerf, but this is too much. If they had to listen to the whiners and nerf the damage of TC, atleast they should have upped (or left alone, even that would have been better) the duration. As it is now, we do minimal damage, can't cap objectives effectively and die if we rez someone from a bad spot.

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Bergioynn wrote...

Indeed. We are in the same deadweight class now. This just bugs me really much because I really enjoeyd my support FQI. I could take the sabotage nerf, but this is too much. If they had to listen to the whiners and nerf the damage of TC, atleast they should have upped (or left alone, even that would have been better) the duration. As it is now, we do minimal damage, can't cap objectives effectively and die if we rez someone from a bad spot.


So, a group of losers who are not satisfied because they're not on top blamed the ****ing game instead of themselves. My reaction:

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 27 juin 2012 - 02:31 .


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Yep. It's really infuriating that bunch of whiners mangaed to ruin the fun for so many people. All that was needed was either a) nerf Krysae, B) make it utra-rare or c) make it an assault rifle. No-one cried about TC before Krysae. After that the nerfers began their dirty work.

Modifié par Bergioynn, 27 juin 2012 - 09:54 .


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I played quite a few games already, I only play Infiltrator and Pub Gold league when she's at the proper level, and it is not that bad. What really screws any Infiltrator is the Cloak bug. We never know when we ARE actually cloaked and powers like Energy Drain and Sabotage do not work, despite we seeing the animation of the power casting.

It was bad before the duration nerfing and now it is just ridiculous because we uncloak a lot fast only to realize that we are still "cloaked" in the toon animation when in fact we are not. And not the second uncloak is faster but the cool down hits at full as if we had cast Energy Drain or Sabotage.

Why did patch 1.3 brought this bug instead of fixing what it was listed as fixed and never was really fixed. Can we get a roll back to patch 1.2, pretty please?

KalilKareem wrote...

Bergioynn wrote...

Infiltrators are dead now. There's no point in playing them anymore, since they can't do any of the roles they had before.


Maybe you should just play a soldier instead then?


Maybe you should sit on the tip of my Widow as I place a special Shotgun Blade Attachment V just for you to enjoy it!

Sixteen Sixty-Six wrote...

**** you all for nerfing TC!!! Because of you ****heads, The Infiltrator has no purpose anymore!!!! You just can't admit that you ****ing suck at ME3 Multiplayer!!!!!!! **** YOU ALL!!!!! And I'm ****ing OUT OF HERE!


LOL. That might have been my first reaction but after a few matches I am still playing very team oriented and top scoring with a level 10-14 in a Pub Gold match filled with level 20 whatevers. They still suck. They will always suck.

No matter how much they nerf Infiltrators, we are the elite marksmen. Although there are plenty good players with other classes I doubt any of them is on this  "nerf infiltrator/TC" gang. They always loved playing with my Infiltrator as much as I love finding them, good players, in a Pub Gold match.

Only problem now is that there are lots of Soldiers with Reegar around. In Gold they don't do so good but in Silver they kill everything and ****** everyone off. I'm foresseing the nerf soldier AD/Reegar carbine next because these lame nerfers are not Gold material. At the best, they play Silver.

Modifié par DragonRageGT, 27 juin 2012 - 10:04 .


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Sixteen Sixty-Six wrote...

**** you all for nerfing TC!!! Because of you ****heads, The Infiltrator has no purpose anymore!!!! You just can't admit that you ****ing suck at ME3 Multiplayer!!!!!!! **** YOU ALL!!!!! And I'm ****ing OUT OF HERE!


noone will miss you. bye!

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Bergioynn wrote...

Yep. It's really infuriating that bunch of whiners mangaed to ruin the fun for so many people. All that was needed was either a) nerf Krysae, B) make it utra-rare or c) make it an assault rifle. No-one cried about TC before Krysae. After that the nerfers began their dirty work.


I have been a staunch advocate against nerfing and those who propose it. That being said, suggesting that the majority of people who called for nerfs did so to ruin other people's fun is ludicris. Most of them are sincere in thier desire to make the game better. I think they are wrong, but thier motives are in the right place.

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Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

I guess you didn't notice that the duration bonus from rank 1 has been increased from 50% to 150%. If you take that option, the duration decrease isn't that dramatic.

Duration Bonus Rank 1? Doesn't that mean you kind of have to take it? Or was it a typoe? 0.0

I mean you have to take ranks 1 - 3 before you get 4 - 6 ....

Modifié par GGW KillerTiger, 27 juin 2012 - 10:47 .


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Sixteen Sixty-Six wrote...

**** you all for nerfing TC!!! Because of you ****heads, The Infiltrator has no purpose anymore!!!! You just can't admit that you ****ing suck at ME3 Multiplayer!!!!!!! **** YOU ALL!!!!! And I'm ****ing OUT OF HERE!


Bye :lol:

#165
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i have an idea lets nerf all guns and classes then no one will be good

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The amount of butthurt in this thread is astounding. Just play the infiltrator. It's still great. If you can't play as effectively as before, get better.

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^ Get better? OK. Meanwhile, you bleed out 'cos we aint gonna rez with this stupidly limited duration.

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I have a suggestion for who didn't like the nerf:
 
Since it seems the parameter to determine if a class is OP or not is the number of players who use it on Gold (just look at the previous week topics on that), stop playing Infiltrators. The number of Infiltrators will be drastically reduced, thus the class will be considered undepowered.Image IPB

If it's all about numbers.....

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The amount of complaining and arguing about a co op horde MP is astonishing. Nothing will ever be perfect or good enough...get over it. People cry about every little thing...oh man he's killing things too fast why can't I do that...nerf that thing. Nerf this. I suck with this so it should be nerfed so everyone can tone down closer to my level. Lol. Seriously. Play the game how it is or simply don't play it.

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I don't really think it was over nerfed maybe for the duration aspect of it I didn't really think the duration nerf was needed at all I thought all it needed was damage nerf but anyways the TC duration nerf isn't all that bad, you can't sneak while cloaked in long distance unless you chose duration bonus, sometimes I hate the TC for one my cloak duration was over at the start when I was reviving someone and died during the process (had no medi gel at the time and so did that guy who died), I really need to stop using my TC early especially in reviving or maybe I just won't be able to revive everyone in time with the nerfed duraiton unless I chose duration bonus on rank 4 on TC.

Modifié par N7 Rixus, 27 juin 2012 - 12:12 .


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MstrJedi Kyle

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I understand reducing the damage output I really do. The duration makes no sense to me though.

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I like it. The Krogans can do the objectives and reviving from now on...

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SilentBacon wrote...

The amount of complaining and arguing about a co op horde MP is astonishing. Nothing will ever be perfect or good enough...get over it. People cry about every little thing...oh man he's killing things too fast why can't I do that...nerf that thing. Nerf this. I suck with this so it should be nerfed so everyone can tone down closer to my level. Lol. Seriously. Play the game how it is or simply don't play it.


The only way to have perfectly balanced classes is to use the same class with the same weapon for every players (that's what happen in PvsP games). But such approach will ruin the fun of a game based on a RPG concept (namely different classes, different weapons, different playstyles)

Anyway that's exactly was is going to happen. The fun of this game has been nerfed too many times.
I wonder if most nerfers play the game actually or just come here to ask for something that will make classes and weapons less fun.

I consider myself a skilled player, I completed Gold with nearly every class on regular basis, but I play for fun. I don't want the fun to be nerfed.

Beside why "artistic interegrity" applies to endings and not to MP mechanics? No polemics intented.

Anyway if we want to play this game for longer, and I'm currently not sure if I'll do, we have to accept Nerfers will always rule this community.
They have a lot of free time and when they start their crusades they can fill these forums with a huge number of topics. (I just tried to be a "profiler" Image IPB)

They always get what they want because:
"Suffer not the fun class or weapon to live!" Image IPB

Before someone starts to say: "You are bad player/ a looser because want OP class", I'll tell you a thing:
I outscored and carried a lot of infiltrators using other classes, it's about the player but many persons don't want to understand it.

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I find it funny how some people believe the infiltrator is the only character who can successfully complete objectives.

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Sixteen Sixty-Six wrote...

**** you all for nerfing TC!!! Because of you ****heads, The Infiltrator has no purpose anymore!!!! You just can't admit that you ****ing suck at ME3 Multiplayer!!!!!!! **** YOU ALL!!!!! And I'm ****ing OUT OF HERE!


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