Taboo-XX wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
That was meant for Taboo and his claim Synthesis removed diversity.
I said nothing of diversity.
You make people understand each other. That's a forced change. Nice work, you have done what no authoritarian in the past has been able to do, force an understanding.
That's absurd.
Modifié par TJX2045, 27 juin 2012 - 05:28 .
Who says it is forced? Understanding something does not equal liking or respecting it. As such, no freedom is removed.Taboo-XX wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
That was meant for Taboo and his claim Synthesis removed diversity.
I said nothing of diversity.
You make people understand each other. That's a forced change. Nice work, you have done what no authoritarian in the past has been able to do, force an understanding.
That's absurd.
MisterJB wrote...
Who says it is forced? Understanding something does not equal liking or respecting it. As such, no freedom is removed.Taboo-XX wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
That was meant for Taboo and his claim Synthesis removed diversity.
I said nothing of diversity.
You make people understand each other. That's a forced change. Nice work, you have done what no authoritarian in the past has been able to do, force an understanding.
That's absurd.
o Ventus wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
Who says it is forced? Understanding something does not equal liking or respecting it. As such, no freedom is removed.Taboo-XX wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
That was meant for Taboo and his claim Synthesis removed diversity.
I said nothing of diversity.
You make people understand each other. That's a forced change. Nice work, you have done what no authoritarian in the past has been able to do, force an understanding.
That's absurd.
Are you legitimately implying that you think it isn't forced?
It's forcing synthetics to understand organics. It is not forcing synthetics to act a certain way towards organics.o Ventus wrote...
Are you legitimately implying that you think it isn't forced?
I agree with this.MisterJB wrote...
Who says it is forced? Understanding something does not equal liking or respecting it. As such, no freedom is removed.
MisterJB wrote...
It's forcing synthetics to understand organics. It is not forcing synthetics to act a certain way towards organics.o Ventus wrote...
Are you legitimately implying that you think it isn't forced?
It could even be that it is simply giving emotions to synthetic like EDI demonstrates and nothing else.
Knowledge is not as deadly as ignorance.
MisterJB wrote...
It's forcing synthetics to understand organics. It is not forcing synthetics to act a certain way towards organics.o Ventus wrote...
Are you legitimately implying that you think it isn't forced?
It could even be that it is simply giving emotions to synthetic like EDI demonstrates and nothing else.
Knowledge is not as deadly as ignorance.
Why do you insist Synthesis ever claimed to be the solution to all life's problems?MattFini wrote...
How does this magical "understanding" even work?
Hey, we know the Krogan are breeding at a dangerous rate. They're going to be a problem. Ah, but nevermind 'cause Synthesis?
Is that how?
The first step was taken. It's better than to believe Synthesis will create an utopia in a day.o Ventus wrote...
So you're saying it's entirely possible that nothin at all was fixed? What's the point then?
BrookerT wrote...
Would be bad if not for EDIs voice-over, its effectively become my Cannon ending because of this.
"I am alive" . . . excuse me, man tears ;_;
MisterJB wrote...
The first step was taken. It's better than to believe Synthesis will create an utopia in a day.o Ventus wrote...
So you're saying it's entirely possible that nothin at all was fixed? What's the point then?
Taboo-XX wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
It's forcing synthetics to understand organics. It is not forcing synthetics to act a certain way towards organics.o Ventus wrote...
Are you legitimately implying that you think it isn't forced?
It could even be that it is simply giving emotions to synthetic like EDI demonstrates and nothing else.
Knowledge is not as deadly as ignorance.
That isn't gaining knowledge, it's a forced understanding.
Modifié par TJX2045, 27 juin 2012 - 05:37 .
MisterJB wrote...
Why do you insist Synthesis ever claimed to be the solution to all life's problems?MattFini wrote...
How does this magical "understanding" even work?
Hey, we know the Krogan are breeding at a dangerous rate. They're going to be a problem. Ah, but nevermind 'cause Synthesis?
Is that how?
The reason we see the krogan expanding in Synthesis is simply because, after this war, there will be a time of cooperation between the species who fought and the knowledge given by the Reapers. It doesn't mean that if the krogan become a threat, synthesis will do something to stop them.
The point is that the first step towards lasting peace was taken. The point is that the knowledge of the Reapers can help improve our civilizations. The point is that no species had to die.o Ventus wrote...
Way to avoid even acknowledging my question.
MisterJB wrote...
The point is that the first step towards lasting peace was taken. The point is that the knowledge of the Reapers can help improve our civilizations. The point is that no species had to die.o Ventus wrote...
Way to avoid even acknowledging my question.
They gain the knowledge and understanding of EVERYONE; all past generations and all species as well as the knowledge of the reapers. Since going with Synthesis means in your game it was the only solution, everyone understands why.o Ventus wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
The point is that the first step towards lasting peace was taken. The point is that the knowledge of the Reapers can help improve our civilizations. The point is that no species had to die.o Ventus wrote...
Way to avoid even acknowledging my question.
What makes you think the hybrids would even be of the mindset to cooperate with the Reapers? For some reason I doubt they would just forget about the near genocide the Reapers have been committing on them.
Modifié par TJX2045, 27 juin 2012 - 05:44 .
Tal_Elmar wrote...
also, notice how Synthesis is narrated through EDI's take. She wanted to be 'alive', so for her it might be butterflies and rainbows, but does she really understand what everyone became? Does she see what IS or what she WANTS to see?
Modifié par WastedHeart, 27 juin 2012 - 05:45 .
Indeed, I'm quite certain there will be great tension between the Reapers and the races they attacked. But with most of the galaxy lying in ruins, they are really not in a position to turn down aid. Especially from a ridiculously more advanced species.o Ventus wrote...
What makes you think the hybrids would even be of the mindset to cooperate with the Reapers? For some reason I doubt they would just forget about the near genocide the Reapers have been committing on them.
Sh0dan wrote...
Why are you people so hypocrite about the synthesis ending?!
Shepard has enough blood on his hands by slaughtering waves of indoctrinated enemies and mercenaries, committing the genocide of the Batarians and murdering sidestory characters throughout the game. How many times let the game decide you about the fate, life or death of others? Do you have the same strong aversion against the game because you have to choose which squadmate or loved friend to sacrifice from time to time? Shepard has always been the guy in charge, forcing his decisions on others. Where does that sudden moral reflection come from?
How many times do you hear the ultimate justification "It had to be done!" thoughout the game? Mass Effect has never been about individualistic self-determination. To me the tone was always been military and therefore self-righteous: Synthesis - "it had to be done!" is completely in line with the rest of the game.
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