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[A-Slice-of-Pink]

see guys, it wasnt so difficult was it? well done Bioware. Faith...restored.

[krinst]

Loved it! Thank you

[squee365]

I can't express enough how awesome the Zaeed image in the EC is.

[gao gao]

while your faith is restored in bioware, my faith in humanity has equally dropped. such is the balance of the force. i hope all you husks buy dragon age 3.

[Ninersjonny]

I said it elsewhere, but I will say it here. Fantastic job Bioware...both before and after the EC. Been playing games since the late 80's and I haven't been sucked in this much since the Wing Commander series....wow....remember that???

[-Algernon-]

I haven't posted anything nor played ME3 in months pending the release of the EC.  The new content is exactly what the ending needed.  Yes, I agree there are still a few little things missed here and there, but these aren't really worth mentioning.  I think the added content should have been released with the original game, and I would've waited the extra time for release to get that (heck we did anyway, just a bit bassakwards.)  Overall, well done Bioware!  I really like the 'new' ending.  It flows really well, it has closure, it seems your actions do make a difference, it's complete and it just plain makes sense.   Thank you Bioware!

[Ulfros]

I disagree with this. New EC endings are sort of nice (though not of very high quality), and certainly better than the original endings. However:

#1 They are too late. I am emotionally disconnected with the game already, and these endings SHOULD have been in the original game, considering how much I paid, how much was at stake in the series' finale, and how good the designers are.

#2 These endings are still just 'Choose a pretty colour at the end and get the same ending as everyone else who chose that particular colour'. Where is the impact of all my choices made throughout the three games? I respect that Bioware wants to end their own story in a way that makes sense to them, but then they shouldn't advertise the content in the way they do.

[Eydris Ivo]

Yes. The EC hit all my expectations concerning closure, epilogues and explanations. It also hit a very emotional chord for me (this time being that happy sadness you feel, because it was satisfying, not that confused/depressed thing I had going on the first time). I finally feel like the story can end now and Shepard can rest.

Modifié par Rheia1234, 28 juin 2012 - 10:29 .

[Alikain]

Well I have to say, I was among those that were unhappy with the original ending but however, I am extremely satisfied with the extended cut. Although there are some minor issues that still remain with the ending, for me anyway but that can be ignored. May faith is now restored, bioware still have the magic. I want say a big thank you to all the bioware teams that made this EC possible and that we the fan Truely appreciate your hard work.

[goldensection77]

I thought the Extended Cut was great.  Well done!  What I loved about it was that it didn't alter thebroad strokes of the original ending (which may raise some artistic dilemnas), but it still improved so much. 

[Melancholic]

After a day of negativity regarding the EC all over the internet, it feels so good to read this thread.

I liked it. Well done, BioWare!

[Arriths]

Liked it, got the closure I needed. Thanks to the bioware team for listening and giving us the mass effect series. Can't wait to see what future games will be and dlc!

[The Spamming Troll]

i think the EC was a waste of everyone time except those that liked it.

which isnt enough pople in my opinion.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 28 juin 2012 - 11:18 .

[Flammenpanzer]

Well Bioware, you beat my expectations. Even with stupid starchild in it, its pretty flushed out now. All I gotta ask is:

Why the heck didn't you end the game like this in the first place??

[metalvayne10]

Merwanor wrote...

now they should release a new game, where you play Garrus, and I will throw my money at the screen.

this...this so much

[Amtorian]

RukiaKuchki wrote...

If you knew the answer to that, would it really matter? To you, personally? The EC endings are fantastic, and in my opinion, they elevate the Mass Effect trilogy into something truely special. Most people have exactly what they wanted now, time to let the old quibbles go. Bioware know the passion and strength of feeling of their fans, and they know what standards they need to achieve next time to satisfy their hugely demanding audience. Everyone wins here.

The world's certainly not going to stop if I don't know, and I will still enjoy the EC. But as computer tech / data monkey / system's designer I would like to know what though processes led to some of that content not being included prior.  I'm not saying the entire EC, but just parts of it.  I won't get into specific parts to avoid spoilers.

Regardless the EC was very well done, and the dev team deserves some kudos. 

[Ikkus]

 I would also like to add my thanks and congratulations on a job well done. It's amazing that you guys took the criticism and then spent the time, money, and effort to make it better. And I'd like to say that I originally chose the BLUE ending, when the EC dropped, I chose the GREEN ending. It gave me chills. It nearly brought me to tears. It was beautiful. Thank you for that.

Modifié par Ikkus, 29 juin 2012 - 03:45 .

[Dusen]

GeneralArrow wrote...

The fact that EA let Bioware do this for us should prove that EA actually has a heart. It takes real guts to say, here's some extra money Bioware. Now go make your fans happy. It's also good to know that Bioware is still Bioware and have a large influence on what they make. I liked the original endings...I love the EC. I am eagerly looking forward to Dragon Age III...I can not wait to see what they come up with as they are actually taking time with this one!

Thank you Bioware!

Ok, I've read some crazy things on this thread but this certainly takes the cake. EA only did this (and I'm sure begrudgingly) because they were on the verge of losing thousands of potential customers, not to mention that they had already been voted the worst company in America while at the same time winning, in unprecedented fashion mind you, the "Golden Poo" award.

IMO, it's one thing to accept that Bioware finally decided put some sort of effort into their game as a form of remorse, but to praise them for it after: 1) they basically snobbed us at first for not understanding their "artistic vision" and still refused to communicate with their fans, 2) when it took a massive internet campaign and the threats of boycotts to finally bring them around, and 3) (by far the most important point) the endings should have at least been this acceptible in the first place is something I cannot understand.

Modifié par Dusen, 29 juin 2012 - 04:03 .

[jerry81]

I would also like to extend my gratitude to Bioware for the EC. The endings were at least for me poignant, thought provoking and provided the closure I've been looking for since I first beat the game. It finally gave Shepard and the crew an ending that they and the entire ME universe deserved, and for that I must say thank you.

[GizmoKodiak]

Yup. I liked it. Nothing absolutely amazing, but pretty much what I was originally expecting and hoping for. Thank you for a fun series of games.

[JackHallin]

After all the griping I've done, I feel bad for putting my feedback in one line. But, it's the best thing I can say.

Well done, Bioware. I can't wait to replay the trilogy.

[mwags85]

Dusen wrote...

GeneralArrow wrote...

The fact that EA let Bioware do this for us should prove that EA actually has a heart. It takes real guts to say, here's some extra money Bioware. Now go make your fans happy. It's also good to know that Bioware is still Bioware and have a large influence on what they make. I liked the original endings...I love the EC. I am eagerly looking forward to Dragon Age III...I can not wait to see what they come up with as they are actually taking time with this one!

Thank you Bioware!

Ok, I've read some crazy things on this thread but this certainly takes the cake. EA only did this (and I'm sure begrudgingly) because they were on the verge of losing thousands of potential customers, not to mention that they had already been voted the worst company in America while at the same time winning, in unprecedented fashion mind you, the "Golden Poo" award.

IMO, it's one thing to accept that Bioware finally decided put some sort of effort into their game as a form of remorse, but to praise them for it after: 1) they basically snobbed us at first for not understanding their "artistic vision" and still refused to communicate with their fans, 2) when it took a massive internet campaign and the threats of boycotts to finally bring them around, and 3) (by far the most important point) the endings should have at least been this acceptible in the first place is something I cannot understand.

I have to agree that EA only did this because we the fans
pretty much had a loaded gun to their head.  The fans were uprising. They
knew it meant their jobs if they didn't give in.  Yes I'm glad Bioware
decided to make the Extended Cut, but I don't think I'll ever get over the fact
that they stabbed us in the back to begin with.  Also, I totally agree
this content should have been in the game to begin with.  It completely
boggles the mind that Bioware thought it was acceptable to release that at
all.  That ending at first was total garbage.  The Extended Cut
clarified quite a bit for me and I felt myself getting more emotional as I
watched it play out.  I played the ending twice and I took Destruction
Ending and also chose none of the 3 choices to see what would happen.  I
liked how we could question ghost child this time and completely reject the 3
choices (though at the cost of totally losing everything in the current
cycle).  I noticed if you chose to reject the choices entirely, ghost
child's voice suddenly turned to Harbinger's.  I'll get back to this
point.  When I did my Destroy ending, after all the cut scenes and
everything, my Commader Shepard was still shown doing the breath scene. 
If after all the mouring my crew did and races returned to their homeworlds and
everythings at peace, Shepard could stll be alive.  Going back to my
point.  I believe the ghost child is Harbinger talking to Shepard through
the image of the boy Shepard sees throughout the game.  Take that for what
you will.  Yes there was some good closure in this cut, but questions
still arise for me.  Like the breath scene at the end for me.  Is my
Shepard still alive?  Was ghost child really just the VI he said he was or
was their some significance to Harbinger's voice coming through?  Maybe
that's just how Harbinger decided to play Shepard's mind at that point. 
Maybe the boy in the beginning was real the whole time and it haunted Shepard
and Harbinger used it against him.  But then why didn't Shepard question
the ghost child on why he looked like the boy from his dreams?  I don't
know, still more questions unanswered, but overall a much better ending than
the original.  Maybe I'm still being to critical.  If anyone else
thinks those are valid questions or whatever else I'm open to interpretations.  Stll, I think games shouldn't be open to interpretation at all, but completely closed, ended, period.  Or left open to more content but leaving no sense of confusion..."is it really over, or will their be more?"  Hence, my ending of galaxy finally at peace, Shepard mourned by crew, then breath scene of Shepard in rubble.  Still a bit confusing there.   

[Ryotenku]

I enjoyed the EC much more than the original. Thanks for the extra time involved.

[ftbscreamer]

Here here, thank you so much Bioware

Oh and lets not forget the rabid fans. Without their persistence this might never have happened, and seeing how awesome the endings are now, that would have been a damn shame.

[GeneralArrow]

Dusen wrote...

GeneralArrow wrote...

The fact that EA let Bioware do this for us should prove that EA actually has a heart. It takes real guts to say, here's some extra money Bioware. Now go make your fans happy. It's also good to know that Bioware is still Bioware and have a large influence on what they make. I liked the original endings...I love the EC. I am eagerly looking forward to Dragon Age III...I can not wait to see what they come up with as they are actually taking time with this one!

Thank you Bioware!

Ok, I've read some crazy things on this thread but this certainly takes the cake. EA only did this (and I'm sure begrudgingly) because they were on the verge of losing thousands of potential customers, not to mention that they had already been voted the worst company in America while at the same time winning, in unprecedented fashion mind you, the "Golden Poo" award.

IMO, it's one thing to accept that Bioware finally decided put some sort of effort into their game as a form of remorse, but to praise them for it after: 1) they basically snobbed us at first for not understanding their "artistic vision" and still refused to communicate with their fans, 2) when it took a massive internet campaign and the threats of boycotts to finally bring them around, and 3) (by far the most important point) the endings should have at least been this acceptible in the first place is something I cannot understand.

1.
The Campaign is not as massive as you think, it was an vocal minority of well organized activist. Bioware sold 1.46 NA copies, the movement at most was 300,000.(and I'm being very considerate for those who might not have been online) The facebook page has close to 70,000. A small fraction compared to several million. I should also add Bioware already had your money at this point.

2.
EA most likely hasn't lost enough money from this to justify giving new endings to a game for free. I do believe that this is a good faith gester by EA and Bioware attempting to win fans back over and show them some compasion. It takes an executive decision to make that call. While my validity might not hold much on the internet I have been to executive meetings and understand how most of them operate.

3. Voted worst company. On a site such as the consumerist is a joke imo. It's not Time, USAToday or anything substantial even if it has a large cult following. You also have to consider the possiblity that the vote was seriously undermined by Bioware fans that wanted to see EA voted the worst company in the industry. It's almost impossible to justify that as being an accurate vote.

4. Again, the campagin was large but not Massive. Bioware could have just as easily ignored everything you said and not done anything. Yet you still claim they fail to communicat with their fans. I and one of the level designers who happen to be on twitter communicate on a fairly regular basis. The designers and Bioware employe's are very active with feedback. You might not have been here for that, but on the forums just after the endings they were on here asking us what we wanted changed. Esp on the Dragon Age forums they were very active.

5. I don't really get this comment "(by far the most important point) the endings should have at least been
this acceptible in the first place is something I cannot understand."

You must be elluding to the fact that when they released the game these should have been the original endings, perhaps. Though the criticts and many of my friends actually enjoyed the original endings. It's an opinion not an argument.

I hope you find this helpful

Modifié par GeneralArrow, 29 juin 2012 - 07:15 .