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#76
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I guess it's like that easter egg from Halo 3. You know, that little WTF moment that keeps people interested in the franchise.

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The easiest way to solve this problem:

Keep the same scene, but add a simple generic line or two of voice acting - -

Fade in panning shot of Citadel rubble.

Surviving C-Sec Officer: Hey, I found someone in the rubble . . . I think (he/she) might be alive . . .

Cue to close-up of N7 dog tag and limp body.

Shepard takes a dramatic breath.

SMASH CUT TO CREDITS.

FIN.

Someone pay me the big bucks. Problem solved.

Modifié par MongoNYC, 27 juin 2012 - 02:30 .


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MongoNYC wrote...

The easiest way to solve this problem:

Keep the same scene, but add a simple generic line or two of voice acting - -

Fade in panning shot of Citadel rubble.

Surviving C-Sec Officer: Hey, I found someone in the rubble . . . I think (he/she) might be alive . . .

Cue to close-up of N7 dog tag and limp body.

Shepard takes a dramatic breath.

SMASH CUT TO CREDITS.

FIN.

Someone pay me the big bucks. Problem solved.

same problem, esier solution; if shepard is dead cut the breath scene, if shepard is alive give a clip from a few years later with LI or if no LI, collecting on all the drinks that he/she is owed.

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The breathing scene was a great way to end the series IMO, now with all the EC footage.

You see the "future" in a series of clips, though you don't really see any of yourself. Or your LI. Just some general "the galaxy is OK" slides.

You then see the Normandy taking off from the planet it crash landed on, obviously having fixed itself. No other crews around, no other ships. One can only infer the damage wasnt major and they fixed it with their crew. Also, they think you're dead (hence putting your name on the wall). One could only infer that they didn't get the memo. Because...

...cut to breathing scene at the end. Shep's alive! Time for post-ending DLC / Sequels!

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Warbuckaz wrote...

TJX2045 wrote...

Warbuckaz wrote...

Bioware said keep your save file. So, if your shep bit the dust then you wont get the option to be, see, or meet shep in your Mass Effect 4 game.


If they made another Mass Effect game where Shepard is the main PC again I will be 100 kinds of pissed.  The EC endings are better than the idea of a new Shepard story IMO.  His story is over.  Let's move along.  New protagonist please.



maybe not play as him but it's possible to bump into him

He could actually take an active story role... be like an Anderson character.

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bigbade wrote...

...I thought it was obvious. Destroy shows the Citadel in ruins but still intact, looks very city-like in fact. Shepard does indeed wake up on the citadel. He's surviving a **** load of laser/blood loss/tube explosions sure but he's still up there and tali (or your LI) knows it, thus why they don't hang up the nameplate on the memorial wall


Exactly my thoughts.

I'm currently imagining Tali & Shep's reunion.

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Weaselball wrote...

The breathing scene was a great way to end the series IMO, now with all the EC footage.

You see the "future" in a series of clips, though you don't really see any of yourself. Or your LI. Just some general "the galaxy is OK" slides.

You then see the Normandy taking off from the planet it crash landed on, obviously having fixed itself. No other crews around, no other ships. One can only infer the damage wasnt major and they fixed it with their crew. Also, they think you're dead (hence putting your name on the wall). One could only infer that they didn't get the memo. Because...

...cut to breathing scene at the end. Shep's alive! Time for post-ending DLC / Sequels!


As much as i'd love a 'Reunion' DLC, it probably wont happen.

So let the FanFiction's begin..

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And for slightly more of an official nod in that direction, check out the second message in:

http://social.biowar...x/12756781&lf=8

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Lookout1390 wrote...

chibilombax wrote...

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Ratham wrote...

Lots of speculation round 2


Pretty much this.

I am so ****ing done with this series.



And yet here you are


Giving feedback on the EC.

Your point is?


thats not feedbacks thats crying,we dont care if ur done or not...just be careful with the door behind you.

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bigbade wrote...

...I thought it was obvious. Destroy shows the Citadel in ruins but still intact, looks very city-like in fact. Shepard does indeed wake up on the citadel. He's surviving a **** load of laser/blood loss/tube explosions sure but he's still up there and tali (or your LI) knows it, thus why they don't hang up the nameplate on the memorial wall


Actually in my game, my LI hung my name up and I STILL had the breathing scene so wtf?

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Shepard Cmdr wrote...

MongoNYC wrote...

The easiest way to solve this problem:

Keep the same scene, but add a simple generic line or two of voice acting - -

Fade in panning shot of Citadel rubble.

Surviving C-Sec Officer: Hey, I found someone in the rubble . . . I think (he/she) might be alive . . .

Cue to close-up of N7 dog tag and limp body.

Shepard takes a dramatic breath.

SMASH CUT TO CREDITS.

FIN.

Someone pay me the big bucks. Problem solved.

same problem, esier solution; if shepard is dead cut the breath scene, if shepard is alive give a clip from a few years later with LI or if no LI, collecting on all the drinks that he/she is owed.


Yeah, no doubt.  If they had the resources to do that, they should have.  But if they didn't or they just wanted to leave it somewhat vague but leaning towards alive, it would be easy to do it similiar to how I conjured it.

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BigBossBoo wrote...

bigbade wrote...

...I thought it was obvious. Destroy shows the Citadel in ruins but still intact, looks very city-like in fact. Shepard does indeed wake up on the citadel. He's surviving a **** load of laser/blood loss/tube explosions sure but he's still up there and tali (or your LI) knows it, thus why they don't hang up the nameplate on the memorial wall


Actually in my game, my LI hung my name up and I STILL had the breathing scene so wtf?


It means your LI didn't really love you :P

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Tocquevillain wrote...

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There is nothing to explain, use your imagination


This. Why can't people grasp this. 

The people who complain about this would hate hitchcock. 


+1

Also, Bioware rep already stated Shepard is alive, the post was about at around 7am this morning. It was the last post in a stickied thread.





link?

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The fact that people don't understand the breathing scene leads me to believe they've never seen or read any other stories in their lives. That is one of the most common storytelling tools around.

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Lili_oups wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Kraykan82 wrote...

There is nothing to explain, use your imagination


This. Why can't people grasp this. 

The people who complain about this would hate hitchcock. 


+1

Also, Bioware rep already stated Shepard is alive, the post was about at around 7am this morning. It was the last post in a stickied thread.





link?

I don't know about that thread, but there's this one:


http://social.biowar...x/12756781&lf=8

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MongoNYC wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

MongoNYC wrote...

The easiest way to solve this problem:

Keep the same scene, but add a simple generic line or two of voice acting - -

Fade in panning shot of Citadel rubble.

Surviving C-Sec Officer: Hey, I found someone in the rubble . . . I think (he/she) might be alive . . .

Cue to close-up of N7 dog tag and limp body.

Shepard takes a dramatic breath.

SMASH CUT TO CREDITS.

FIN.

Someone pay me the big bucks. Problem solved.

same problem, esier solution; if shepard is dead cut the breath scene, if shepard is alive give a clip from a few years later with LI or if no LI, collecting on all the drinks that he/she is owed.


Yeah, no doubt.  If they had the resources to do that, they should have.  But if they didn't or they just wanted to leave it somewhat vague but leaning towards alive, it would be easy to do it similiar to how I conjured it.

The other three endings are very explicit on whether shepard is alive or not, and in the others (not counting "SO BE IT") shepard is very definitevely the sacrifice.  In destroy, the synthetics are the sacrifice and therefore it should be possible for shepard to live.  I for one just want a definitive answer to the question not a "Schrodinger's Shepard".

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Jeremy Winston wrote...

Lili_oups wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Kraykan82 wrote...

There is nothing to explain, use your imagination


This. Why can't people grasp this. 

The people who complain about this would hate hitchcock. 


+1

Also, Bioware rep already stated Shepard is alive, the post was about at around 7am this morning. It was the last post in a stickied thread.





link?

I don't know about that thread, but there's this one:


http://social.biowar...x/12756781&lf=8



"You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together." 

AWESOME. 

I feel a little bit better that an official Bioware member confirmed this. :happy:

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 27 juin 2012 - 03:12 .


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I wish there was a reunion seen between Shep and LI, but with the breath scene it allows the viewer to express how they believed it happened. The slideshow filled most of the holes in the endings for me. Seeing Liara holding the plate but not putting it up was wonderful. In my imagination, when the Normandy returns to Earth Liara finds out Shepard is alive and expected to recover, although it will take time. Then a scene later with an older Shep watching Liara play with at least one Little Blue Child.

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Clearly setting up for another DLC.....not a free one this time. And maybe the ME2 characters will be included this time

Yeah seems like it can see it now reunion dlc only $5 for 5 minutes of content and honestly I would buy it and a lot of other people would they wouldn't say they did but they would 

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This (no Shepard lives explanation/expansion) will be a lingering annoyance for me with something that was done really well overall, as in the EC itself. I just want closure with Matthew Shepard. I didn't want to be yet again teased with that cutscene once more, and they sure as hell did it.

I had a simple request with it, honestly; either kill me off, since it seems some members of the community seem to think heroes must die for artistic integrity, or extended the Shepard lives cutscene and give me a little more than the original.

I will say that the Normandy lifting off Gilligan's Planet then the Shepard lives cutscene airing gave me some hope for a rescue/reunion DLC, but I doubt it. Just something I'm going to have to deal with.

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thisisme8 wrote...

The fact that people don't understand the breathing scene leads me to believe they've never seen or read any other stories in their lives. That is one of the most common storytelling tools around.

I agree but still wanted an LI reunion but the breath scene I understand and it is implied Shepard meets his LI again but would have liked LI reunion but your right it is obvious 

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Shepard Cmdr wrote...

MongoNYC wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

MongoNYC wrote...

The easiest way to solve this problem:

Keep the same scene, but add a simple generic line or two of voice acting - -

Fade in panning shot of Citadel rubble.

Surviving C-Sec Officer: Hey, I found someone in the rubble . . . I think (he/she) might be alive . . .

Cue to close-up of N7 dog tag and limp body.

Shepard takes a dramatic breath.

SMASH CUT TO CREDITS.

FIN.

Someone pay me the big bucks. Problem solved.

same problem, esier solution; if shepard is dead cut the breath scene, if shepard is alive give a clip from a few years later with LI or if no LI, collecting on all the drinks that he/she is owed.


Yeah, no doubt.  If they had the resources to do that, they should have.  But if they didn't or they just wanted to leave it somewhat vague but leaning towards alive, it would be easy to do it similiar to how I conjured it.

The other three endings are very explicit on whether shepard is alive or not, and in the others (not counting "SO BE IT") shepard is very definitevely the sacrifice.  In destroy, the synthetics are the sacrifice and therefore it should be possible for shepard to live.  I for one just want a definitive answer to the question not a "Schrodinger's Shepard".


Agreed.  Might as well go all the way, no?  Just trying to make the best of what was available already.

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I vaguely remember seeing a beam coming out of the Citadel during the epilogue sequence. The Citadel arms were open at the time. It was a still picture like the others. The arms were not open when Shepard first got to the Citadel, but they were when he activated the arms.

www.youtube.com/watch

Watch this. At 15:22 of this video.

Modifié par magnetite, 27 juin 2012 - 03:30 .


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Considering the relays and the citadel don't blow up now, since that got ret-conned, it is more feasible that shepard survives.

Plus there is also the change in the memorial scene if you chose the destroy ending.

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Considering the relays and the citadel don't blow up now, since that got ret-conned, it is more feasible that shepard survives.

Plus there is also the change in the memorial scene if you chose the destroy ending.


I've heard that. Apparently, Shepard's name is already on the board in control/synthesis, but they seem to hesitate (I always choose destroy) in the destroy ending. That coupled with the lift off scene with the Normandy made me double-take about my feelings towards the ending of the EC DLC, as there may be hope for rescue/reunion DLC.