201 réponses à ce sujet

[capn233]

GallowsPole wrote...

Its about as misguided and illogical as these ridiculous threads over and over. Secondly, a majority who are somehow affected by the duration nerf, have flat out said they won't participte in reviving and objective. That's what doesnt make a team player. So yes,you are correct.the very choice of evo densest make. A eam playe. It's what they do after they made their choice.

Well amigo, most of those people probably weren't reviving to begin with, so I doubt it will matter in the long run.  I am glad we agree that useless teammates will still exist regardless of balance changes.

[Booshnickins]

Shouldn't this be the "I got lost on my way to CoD" club?

[WWNSX]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I specced damage. Because I actually give a crap about my team. By killing things faster, they die less.

What about on objective rounds?  Where killing things faster doesn't matter much due to infinite spawns?

Because killing things quickly around the objective never gets the job done.

Listen to you, you're nerfdoctrinated.

I didn't say anything about nerfing.  You're overly-nerf-sensitive.  Whining about nerfing before it even comes up.

No he's right you're nerfdoctrinated. I've seen you post multiple times on "nerf Infiltrator" threads or cleverly diguised ones.

You're part of the Bronze Effect group so I have no idea how you can even post about infiltrators especially if you're apart of a group that only plays bronze and has no idea what it takes on silver and gold. Unless you have an idea about infiltrators on Silver and Gold; then I don't know why you'd still be a part of that group?

edited to make the last senteance more a a question.

Modifié par WWNSX, 30 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[immanji]

I always spec for duration! I love helping my team on Gold.

[ChurchOfZod]

I'm specced for duration now because I haven't promoted infiltrator class for a while and I save power reset cards for melee classes. But the next time I promote I'm going for damage. Sorry chumps, save your own asses.

[WWNSX]

I'm not going to respec my GI for duration post nerf. I might consider it on the other Infiltrator races but I'm not using a respec card for this. Players wanting other to spec for duration makes no sense due to aggro dump.

I'm still trying to change my play style so I can do the same things before the nerf but TC decloaks in the middle of a 1234 disable targets objective now and not towards the end now which sucks but I guess I'll have to adapt to those Geth Hunters coming after me in the middle of Hydra.

I only play a SR Infiltrator because it's what I enjoy playing outside of the other classes I play. I don't mind the damage nerf but I do mind the TC duration one but what ever I'll adapt. As long as my teammates can adapt to the fact that I'm going to have to try figuring out new strategies to replace the old ones for all the objectives and reviving them and anything else.

I'm not sure if the TC nerf is exactly balanced considering the GI,MQI and SI are still the stronger Infiltrator races over the QFI and HI.

[Sidney]

I dislike the way they messed with TC because it has no effect on the camping snipers who cloak shoot, rinse, repeat but the melee infiltrators who need to cover ground and still hit hard once they get there took a hit.

[Skyance]

Count me in for this club. And btw, it's totally possible to spec for damage and still be able to revive people on gold. Not just talking about FBWGG, like U/U/G.

Device hacking on the other hand... *grabs missile launcher*

[Kaelthyn117]

count me in, because my Claymore IX is always ready to blow some Brutes up.

[Lord Rosario]

Sidney wrote...

I dislike the way they messed with TC because it has no effect on the camping snipers who cloak shoot, rinse, repeat but the melee infiltrators who need to cover ground and still hit hard once they get there took a hit.

Idea was to hit the ones that did everything.

[FirstBlood XL]

ericjdev wrote...

Cap your own goals and heal yourselves and while your doing it make sure you don't complain because this is what you asked for.

[Sabbatine]

Draining Dragon wrote...

Rename it the "I care more about my points than the general success of my team" club

Is there a reason why your think wiping on wave 3 will get an infiltrator more points than a full extraction on wave 11?

[sliverofamoon]

WWNSX wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I specced damage. Because I actually give a crap about my team. By killing things faster, they die less.

What about on objective rounds?  Where killing things faster doesn't matter much due to infinite spawns?

Because killing things quickly around the objective never gets the job done.

Listen to you, you're nerfdoctrinated.

I didn't say anything about nerfing.  You're overly-nerf-sensitive.  Whining about nerfing before it even comes up.

No he's right you're nerfdoctrinated. I've seen you post multiple times on "nerf Infiltrator" threads or cleverly diguised ones.

You're part of the Bronze Effect group so I have no idea how you can even post about infiltrators especially if you're apart of a group that only plays bronze and has no idea what it takes on silver and gold. Unless you have an idea about infiltrators on Silver and Gold; then I don't know why you'd still be a part of that group.

This is not true. I'm not as active as I first was in this group, but the goal behind it is to find people who see this as a game, treat it as such, and play it to have fun. If someone new to MP comes along, and says, "Hey, would you mind helping me start out, and learn how to play MP?" I would help them out in bronze to get a feel for the MP which is much more difficult that the SP. Get them used to playing with all the nerfs, maps, buffed enemies, etc.

[Mindlog]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sidney wrote...

I dislike the way they messed with TC because it has no effect on the camping snipers who cloak shoot, rinse, repeat but the melee infiltrators who need to cover ground and still hit hard once they get there took a hit.

Idea was to hit the ones that did everything.

Well then we're just going to have to nerf skill.

[Zjarcal]

WWNSX wrote...

You're part of the Bronze Effect group so I have no idea how you can even post about infiltrators especially if you're apart of a group that only plays bronze and has no idea what it takes on silver and gold. Unless you have an idea about infiltrators on Silver and Gold; then I don't know why you'd still be a part of that group.

OMG, fail!!!

Most of the members in there play in all difficulties, the group simply started as one to accomodate the more casual players. Just take a glance at the threads and you'll see how there are plenty of gold related topics.

Ugh, seriously, if anything, YOU are the one who shouldn't be posting sh*t without knowing what they are talking about.

On topic, I defintely won't spec either my GI or Human Infiltrator for duration, but I may consider it for my quarian female and salarian. I already have my quarian male for duration (but that's mostly due to my own way of "balancing" the reegar that I use on him).

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 juin 2012 - 12:27 .

[Holy-Hamster]

Actually the idea was that cloak was too much of a safety net and you could run into impossible situations, revive your teammates and live . Now it's somewhat of a challenge depending on the circumstances, but you still have a WAY better chance than non infiltrators. Cloak is tactical now instead of running around the map without care. You can't just cloak, take 6 seconds to line up your shots then fire either.

The "ones who did everything" will still do everything.

[BLY78NOR]

Booshnickins wrote...

Shouldn't this be the "I got lost on my way to CoD" club?

No it should be "Bioware took away my easy mode and i refuse to adapt so i'm taking my ball and going home"

[Mindlog]

Rescuing players downed in impossible situations was a bad thing? Newer players should learn the hard way by bleeding out? Watch the other players to learn how it's done?

Newer and lesser skilled players were the only ones that took 6 seconds to line up a shot. I feel bad that we're telling them they better learn how to be better or simply do less damage. They were already doing less damage.

Even then, they may be new, but they're not taking duration

Modifié par Mindlog, 30 juin 2012 - 12:44 .

[WWNSX]

Zjarcal wrote...

WWNSX wrote...

You're part of the Bronze Effect group so I have no idea how you can even post about infiltrators especially if you're apart of a group that only plays bronze and has no idea what it takes on silver and gold. Unless you have an idea about infiltrators on Silver and Gold; then I don't know why you'd still be a part of that group.

OMG, fail!!!

Most of the members in there play in all difficulties, the group simply started as one to accomodate the more casual players. Just take a glance at the threads and you'll see how there are plenty of gold related topics.

Ugh, seriously, if anything, YOU are the one who shouldn't be posting sh*t without knowing what they are talking about.

First off I wasn't talking to YOU. second I know the group was started for Bronze only players with gold and silver players that wanted to join if they wanted to. Maybe I should have put a question mark instead.

Thanks for answering that somewhat silverofamoon.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Bad players will always be bad regardless of class.

Team players will always be team players regardless of class.

Idiots will always be idiots.

Nerf idiots.

[Kel Riever]

WWSNX, yeah, I mean, you should find out more about the group. We have people play silver and gold all the time. It is the way they play that is different, not so much that everybody plays on Bronze.

I find it pretty entertaining that after the nerf, there hasn't been an end to the discussion of Infiltrators on these boards. Nor is anyone that I can see gravitating to any other classes. Maybe that will happen over the much longer haul? Who knows?

[cronshaw]

This thread is all kinds of lame

[shadowkinz]

If specing for it gave u something more than WE ALREADY HAD. It should be 8/15. It is an indirect way to further nerf dmg by making our duration so uselessly small that we are coerced into picking it for objectives.

[GenericUserName9]

I have 6 Infiltrators. I presume most of you do as well.

I have
4 specced for Damage.
2 for Duration.

Based around loadout and theme.

80/20 split seems reasonable; it's more fun to deliver big damage over being team medic/flanker, but that doesn't mean I don't like being the sneaky guy sometimes.

You guys focussed on just delivering big hits are missing out on some fun. Just tonight I had a Gold group get in trouble on the objectives (came up twice), and hear over the mic lots of
"Hey, that guy's got it", "The other guy's taking care of it, look at him go", "That guy's going for it, he's nuts...oh hey, he got it", "good job, bro" etc.

There's a pleasure in that that is sometimes nicer than just killing stuff quickly.