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[Curlain]

Emryc wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if the God-Child is a red herring.

Or mabye it's a red dragon, Firkraag returned

On the subject at hand, yep, I hope they pay attention to all endings, and so I don't think Morrigan with the god-dragon-devil-something-child should be cannon, but only if your character choose that option.  The idea above that she could have a child with abilities that could or could not be the child of the ritual (depending on what you chose) could e a good compromise, though it would mean that the ritual child could not be part of the central story of DA2.

As such, the whole thing if it occurs at all, should be a side-quest that appears if your character did the ritual, but not part of the main story

[kaimanaMM]

I would be pretty disappointed if any sequels had the PC as the god-baby from the dark ritual. Bioware is pretty innovative, I have plenty of confidence that they can come up with a good story line (and not rehash one they and others have done before).



===Book Spoilers Below===

































If you've read The Calling (which I recommend, good read) at the end of the book Fiona has become the first Grey Warden that won't have to go on her Calling, she has tuly become immune to the taint AND she had concieved a child, yet we don't really know how. We don't know what *really* happened with the dark ritual, all we have is Morrigan's half-truths and our own assumptions of what happens after we stick our sword into the archdemon based upon those half-truths. Who's to say that something quite profound didn't happen to your PC or to Alistair or to Loghain (depending on who you picked to go through the ritual)?



I don't think the choice will be forced on us, but I do think Morrigan is devious enough to find another way even if you turn her down. I haven't come across an ending yet where Morrigan is dead or totally out of the picture. If there is such an ending then that is definitely something to think about.

[Ravauviel]

Korva wrote...

As I have said before, it would really tick me off immensely if they did. It would be lazy and bad writing IMO, and show a lack of respect for the players as well as for their own storyline. You don't retcon important choices out of existence and tell people that something they invested a lot into emotionally never happened, and never even was an option to happen -- it's just bad form.

I love the "ultimate sacrifice". How many games are there in which you actually have to sacrifice anything at all? So many are all gloom and doom and impossible odds, yet somehow the "hero(ine)" always flounces out of it all pristinely unharmed and unaffected. A proper heroic death is a welcome breath of fresh air, and it can be a fantastic climax and conclusion to a storyline. In this case I thought it fit beautifully. From the start I wanted something like that for my first/main/"canon" character (human noble warrior). I liked the idea of the Calling (and the video trailer), grim as it is. The sacrifice is even better.

If that stupid (b/w)itch Morrigan "had to have" her damn spawn, it should have been impossible to turn her down. As it stands it would be impossible to retcon it into existence without totally breaking the three sacrifice endings.

Nicely expressed! My sentiments exactly.

[Vicious]

Could care less. I'm more concerned if im going to reprise the role of my MC or not.



doubt it.

[LazyWulfran1]

I'm hoping the next game is so large that it comes on 27 DVDs, so I can see the impact of every single choice I made in this one played out differently.

Seriously, Dark Ritual isn't the only major game-impacting choice you make; it's just the most personal. The questions of human royal succession, dwarven royal succession, and the fate of the Circle would all have a huge impact on the game world going further. I doubt Bioware will be able to represent the results of all those choices in a sequel. And as much as some people would rather not be "forced" in a storyline sense to take the ritual, it's either that or be forced to not take it. A demon baby isn't going to stay quiet for long, especially with Morrigan as its mother.  And I can't see her finding "another way" to get an archdemon soul.  Somebody lives killing the archdemon if they take the deal, or dies if they don't.  It's not like she performed the ritual in secret without telling you (unless there's a purely coincidental heart attack involved).  And Morrigan's not so impressive that I can see her going off to find an archdemon on her own and just taking its soul.

Modifié par LazyWulfran1, 15 décembre 2009 - 03:44 .

[Wertilq]

Taking the easy way out;

The jump forward in time ALOT, so that another Blight have passed. Jump to another part of Thedas.



Now they can have it so that a Witch of the Wild spawned a demon child, it doesn't say WHICH blight it came from, Dwarven and Human Royal succession in Ferelden doesn't matter since long time have passed and it was in another part of the world. Easy way out for canon and demonspawnchildren....

[Maconbar]

LazyWulfran1 wrote...

 And I can't see her finding "another way" to get an archdemon soul.  Somebody lives killing the archdemon if they take the deal, or dies if they don't.  It's not like she performed the ritual in secret without telling you (unless there's a purely coincidental heart attack involved).  And Morrigan's not so impressive that I can see her going off to find an archdemon on her own and just taking its soul.

1. Is it possible that after the PC rejected Morrigan, she went to Riordan? I think thats more likely then Morrigan just giving up on this idea.

2. Is it possible that Morrigan didn't tell the PC the entire story about the dark ritual? I think it would be in character for her withhold important information about the dark ritual.

For sake of arguement lets say that Morrigan performs the dark ritual with Riordan. Later in the story Riordan dies. Soon after one of the other grey wardens (Loghain, PC, or Alistair) dies in the archdemon sacrifice. If we know everything of importance about the ritual then we know that the sacrifice occurs, one of the grey wardens dies, and the archdemon's soul is destroyed. However if Morrigan hasn't told us the entire story, is it possible that a warden dies but the soul goes to Morrigan's fetus?

D. Gaider has reminded us over and over that we don't know everything.

I think that something along these ideas would provide Bioware a consistent way to continue the dark ritual storyline into DA:2 without completely jettisonning our choices at the end of DA:O.

[Emryc]

Curlain wrote...

Or mabye it's a red dragon, Firkraag returned

It would be Girkraaf, and he'd be hiding in a very large hovel.

[Epocu Starwind]

All choices you made WIIL have an impact because they are allowing transfer of saves ME style. The Old God (I'A CTHULU!), will more then likely appear in the next game as it starts in the early part of the first game and ends a decade later. If they don't I will honestly be suprised.

[Beren082]

The OGB may not necessarily have to come from Morrigan, as the Architect presents an unpredictable element. If you don't do the DR, it may turn out that he finds another Old God and succeeds in freeing it, but in the form of a child.

I maintain that it would be really awesome that these could be the origin stories of the PC in DA3.

[Verly]

wow. this thread was in rigamortis it was so dead.

Modifié par Verly, 27 février 2011 - 05:54 .

[Obadiah]

There is just no way the OGB or Morri will make an appearance in this game. Clearly from the DLC, though Bioware may not be done with the character, Morri has exited fro the foreseeable future.

[MKDAWUSS]

The Water God wrote...

Why would someone revive this old of a thread? Especially when the thread Necromancer could've easily converted his post into a new topic!

Probably used the search function and didn't check the date.

I was also once told that necromancy is better for bandwidth.

[gethspy]

there are 3 preset ways for origins to go according to DA2, only one involves the ritual