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[Vexille]

I cant be the only one who watched synthesis, saw everyone loving each other holding hands and hugging and immediately thought.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

I mean, bro shep and James making out would have made the synthesis ending LESS gay

seriously, Synthesis is the dumbest ending ive ever seen in a video game,

[kblaze13]

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

[chuckles471]

Armass81 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Being alive =/= Free

A Utopia is for idealists and fools.

thats a pretty limited vision...

Conflict and hardship make the good things in life better and less boring.

[LTKerr]

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

Only thing that bothers me still about it is that one guy forces evolution upon all.

That's not utopia. Synthesis asumes organics and synthetics can't coexist so it's necesary to merge them. Is really the only way? Do you really have to destroy diversity and every existent species in order to treat the synthetics as life? Well, I treated the synthetics as life long before ME3 ending so this magic space is, for me, bullsh*t.

[charon45]

Synthesis is probably still the worst ending for me. The EC hyping it up as the pinnacle of life just reaffirmed that for me. Man and machine both reach the apex of their existence and will unlock the knowledge of countless civilizations before it and become masters of the universe in moments. No thanks. I think the point of civilization is to strive to improve. Getting up jumped and then having the keys to something greater dumped into your lap seems way too easy. It is a bad premise for an ending, IMO.

[Armass81]

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome and armsand legs you have left and say to me how fun it was and how you wish this could continue for all time. Unless you return in a coffin... War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

Id say peace is still preferable...

Modifié par Armass81, 27 juin 2012 - 05:17 .

[Sapeinus]

Creepiest thing in the whole series. That's all I'll say because I don't want to think anymore about it.

[kblaze13]

Armass81 wrote...

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome you haveand say to me how fun it was and how you wish this would continue for all time. War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

First off, did I say war no I said CONFLICT.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

as to your later remark.

beed there done that got the scars and the dd214 to prove it.

Clearly you cannot handle the difference between CONFLICT and WAR.

while yes WAR is an EXTREME conflict, a simple arguement is a conflict. we clearly are having one right now.

[dgcatanisiri]

I am uncomfortable at best with synthesis... But there's something about EDI's statement of 'I am alive' that just kinda warms my heart, making me consider it as something that is at least somewhat good.

[Vexille]

Armass81 wrote...

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome you have and say to me how fun it was and how you wish this could continue for all time. War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

Id say peace is still preferable...

conflict is part of human nature, its never going away. War does however spark inovation... do you realize how much of the everyday tech we use was orginially designed and funded for military purposes?

[Vexille]

dgcatanisiri wrote...

I am uncomfortable at best with synthesis... But there's something about EDI's statement of 'I am alive' that just kinda warms my heart, making me consider it as something that is at least somewhat good.

really? that statement just annoyed me... bimbobot lives while Shepard is dead? WHERES THE JUSTICE?!

[darthnick427]

Synthesis is creepy and weird. best put by Mordin and Jack

"Let me die as me than let me live as something I'm not"

"No soul. Replaced by tech."

[RADIUMEYEZ]

I don't understand it either I don't like Synthesis because I know I would not like to live like that being half machine completely. It's one thing to have synthetic implants for bones and stuff but to become a perversion of nature no thanks.

[Armass81]

Vexille wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome you have and say to me how fun it was and how you wish this could continue for all time. War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

Id say peace is still preferable...

conflict is part of human nature, its never going away. War does however spark inovation... do you realize how much of the everyday tech we use was orginially designed and funded for military purposes?

Small conflict probably yes, but given enough time, wisdom and life id say we can grow out of the big ones. Like war. Ideal world doesnt mean everyone has to be a saint.

Modifié par Armass81, 27 juin 2012 - 05:25 .

[cgvhjb]

David7204 wrote...

So synthesis leads to a perfect utopia where all life thrives in perfect cooperation. Great. Does that really sound like a good thing?  I mean, what kind of a story is that? It isn't one.

I don't want Garrus and Tali and Liara becoming gods and sitting around comtemplating poetic crap all day or whatever it is gods do. I want them to be, I dunno, having a beach party and fooling around with each other. As it was meant to be! Most I all, I want Shepard alive to frekin' join in!

I'm so sorry, EDI and Joker. I'm so sorry. Screw the geth, I don't care. The quarians can hire some salarians to fiddle with their immune systems.

Because everyone gets perm internet access at all time so that means unlimited fornax everywhere... at all times... and places...

[mireisen]

Every time some whack job tries to make a utopia it always ends poorly. At least, to our human understanding. No one's been successful so far. Guess we're too diversified in our tastes and wants to never have a perfect existence.

So...yeah...don't think a Reaper would do better.

[Tritium315]

Because it's something that can't be forced... wait...

[devSin]

I believe the French have a saying: "HOLY GOD, THAT IS REPUGNANT."

To be truthful, it's even harder for me to take synthesis seriously than it was before the extended cut. It's even more fantastical, and the ramifications are even more disturbing.

Whatever. I guess they can have their spooky ending if they want.

[Zoo Keeper Zeke]

I don't get the impression that many actually like it in terms of the ending implications (I see it as creepy and even silly). But it does add some entertaining variety and EDI's narration is very well-done, to the extent that at the end it was touching despite the whole concept when EDI emotes and consoles--in this case--a grieving Tali at the memorial wall scene. So kudos for execution even though I actually don't like it in concept.

[MisterJB]

Vexille wrote...
conflict is part of human nature, its never going away. War does however spark inovation... do you realize how much of the everyday tech we use was orginially designed and funded for military purposes?

Limitations works just as well to inspire progress and inovation. It doesn't have to be trough war.

[chuckles471]

Vexille wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome you have and say to me how fun it was and how you wish this could continue for all time. War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

Id say peace is still preferable...

conflict is part of human nature, its never going away. War does however spark inovation... do you realize how much of the everyday tech we use was orginially designed and funded for military purposes?

Without war our medical knowledge wouldn't be half as good as it is.
A Utopia stops use from pushing ourselves. 

[Bootsykk]

cgvhjb wrote...

David7204 wrote...

So synthesis leads to a perfect utopia where all life thrives in perfect cooperation. Great. Does that really sound like a good thing?  I mean, what kind of a story is that? It isn't one.

I don't want Garrus and Tali and Liara becoming gods and sitting around comtemplating poetic crap all day or whatever it is gods do. I want them to be, I dunno, having a beach party and fooling around with each other. As it was meant to be! Most I all, I want Shepard alive to frekin' join in!

I'm so sorry, EDI and Joker. I'm so sorry. Screw the geth, I don't care. The quarians can hire some salarians to fiddle with their immune systems.

Because everyone gets perm internet access at all time so that means unlimited fornax everywhere... at all times... and places...

Oh sh*t you're right, well that makes it official: Synthesis is the best ending.

No wonder it was so peaceful. Everyone was too busy wanking to fight wars.





(OH I'M JUST KIDDING YOU GUYS, I'M NOT TRYING TO INSULT SYNTHESIS. Which I do think is an interesting choice; not my personal choice, but still)

[kblaze13]

Armass81 wrote...

Vexille wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

kblaze13 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Youd reject utopia if it was offered to you?

In a heartbeat.

Humanity doesn't thrive in peace, we excel in conflict.

look at the science achivements throughout history it was always driven by a need to out do, outbuild, or outfight, another human or group of humans.

Not sure about the asari, but pretty sure the Turians, and Krogan are also along the same lines as humans, which is oddly enough why they probably have as much dislike as they do respect for us. Since as different as humans are to them, they are at the core VERY similar.

So if you love conflict, enlist into the next war. Then come back to me with whatever syndrome you have and say to me how fun it was and how you wish this could continue for all time. War is not pretty and its the worst form of conflict.

Id say peace is still preferable...

conflict is part of human nature, its never going away. War does however spark inovation... do you realize how much of the everyday tech we use was orginially designed and funded for military purposes?

Small conflict probably yes, but id say we can grow out of the big ones. Like war. Ideal world doesnt mean everyone has to be a saint.

which is why i used the word conflict and not war in my orignal post. as there is in fact a MAJOR difference between war and conflict. something as simple as an arugement is a conflict. differing opinons is a conflict. Human nature says we will conflict with someone, somewhere. That is part of what makes us, human. A utopia by definition has NO CONFLICT thereby making it something impossible to have and still be Human.

[FabricatedWookie]

my only criticism is that there is no way the notion of final evolution can be true. Evolution isn't onwards and upwards, it is change, inexorable change.

j/k not my only criticism

Modifié par FabricatedWookie, 27 juin 2012 - 05:45 .