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Why are people so happy with synthesis?


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#201
Ridwan

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I guess some people wanna be robots?

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Heeden

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thisisme8 wrote...

So you're saying we should all be like the Geth and be machines and have consensus?


Groups can reach consensus without being machines or directly networking consciousness, the Asari are an example of this with their e-democracy.

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Heeden wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

So you're saying we should all be like the Geth and be machines and have consensus?


Groups can reach consensus without being machines or directly networking consciousness, the Asari are an example of this with their e-democracy.


Yes. If said race wishes, they may do so.

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Joe Del Toro

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Of course I'm now sold on Synthesis! I mean the way it brings a Husk back to life and hang on what 

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Why are people happy with it? Maybe the people who like synthesis obviously don't think as you do, and approach these issues in a different way. Perhaps it has to do with life experience, or genetics. Who can tell =]

Human or even organic life acesending to a higher state of being via technology isn't a new theme in sci-fi, Babylon 5 and the Vorlons spring to mind. I found the whole thing interesting to experience in the Mass Effect universe.

There was an option of course to explore what sorts of new problems and challenges that this new acension would bring upon the young races within the ME galaxy but instead they chose to leave it more optomistic and open ended.

The game makes it pretty clear, there were, and have been plenty of much older, and more advanced races out there. And who knows, maybe a few of them are still around.

If you want to focus on EDI and the Geth, and make the option about them, or saving them that's fine. But it's not really the focus of the ending I think.

Modifié par Salfin, 27 juin 2012 - 08:41 .


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i personally wouldn't choose synthesis, but to me, it was awesome to watch. Tricia Helfer narrating, seeing the reapers helping rebuild, the cool DNA sections. I mean it was pretty damn cool to watch.

Oh yeah a picture of a exposed face Quarian and Geth talking. how could you not think that was awesome to see?

Modifié par Jononarf, 27 juin 2012 - 08:33 .


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Jononarf wrote...

i personally wouldn't choose synthesis, but to me, it was awesome to watch. Tricia Helfer narrating, seeing the reapers helping rebuild, the cool DNA sections. I mean it was pretty damn cool to watch.

Oh yeah a picture of a exposed face Quarian and Geth talking. how could you not think that was awesome to see?


I enjoyed it a great deal as well. The narration was great. :)

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thisisme8

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Heeden wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

So you're saying we should all be like the Geth and be machines and have consensus?


Groups can reach consensus without being machines or directly networking consciousness, the Asari are an example of this with their e-democracy.


So...  I was just trollin' on Taboo and it seems he caught it...  sorry you kind of got stuck in the middle here...

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Ridwan

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Why are people assuming this will be utopia? You mean to tell me, we are all mindless drones after we turn green?

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It seems to me that a lot of the people who are really into Synthesis just have stars in their eyes. For whatever reason, a number of people make a huge personal investment into this whole "Man joining with Machine is the way of the future!" idea.

They become so enamored of this ideology that they break out some world-class mental gymnastics to stick up for it when something superficially similar makes an appearance in their favorite video game.

Modifié par General User, 27 juin 2012 - 08:45 .


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Malanek

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I love it when you ask the kid for details and it says "There isn't much time but I will try."

A lot of people argue that diversity is lost but there is no indication that that is the case. My big issue with it is that it physically alters everyone to a great extent without their consent.

Also Reapers aren't omnipotent either (the make mistakes) so there is no way they can predict the consequences of altering the natural world. By basically altering all organic carbon compounds (no it still doesn't make sense) it could result in disastrous consequences and actually end up wiping out all life. Just as destroy doesn't discriminate against geth why should synthesis discriminate against plants? If plants had no CO2 to grow with then animals would have no plants to eat and so on.

Synthesis struck me as the make peace option, and it is a noble intent, but I just can't accept all the consequences or complete implausibility that go's with it. I think it would have been better to have an option where the catalysts agreed to stop the reapers fighting and come to a peace treaty in return for Shepard not destroying or controlling them. Same intent, requires the same amount of trust, but doesn't have all the problems, nor does it offer the eventual utopia the epilogue promoted.

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Jamie9 wrote...

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I don't like it because the Catalyst essentially contradicts itself within in the same sentence.

"It wont work if it's forced, but here, have it as an option for the Crucible even though you've never explored anything like this concept in the entire game".

I also don't like the fact it makes everyone immortal.

I also don't like the fact that something akin to synthesis will be achieved anyway, so there's no need to choose it.

Synthesis is just..... irrelevant. There's no reason to pick it.


The past civilizations in the Reapers! I feel like I'm the only one that cares about those trillions of beings. :(


What about them? 

They're dead, gone, I'd rather let them rest. There's no indication that these 'minds' are at all intact or even sane.

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Joe Del Toro wrote...

Of course I'm now sold on Synthesis! I mean the way it brings a Husk back to life and hang on what 

Just imagine, all that knowledge about how organics work now floating around that husk head of his. He might even remember he used to be a person before he got rammed on a spike. Won't that be fun?

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thisisme8

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So, we're almost at the 10 page mark.. That's 10 pages.... ten pages, just dripping with irony and no one's caught on yet?

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Shepard snuck his DNA into everyone. Sneaky... and perhaps a little creepy.