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[FbangIncentinveX]

In a game that's all about changing things, Thane shouldn't be forced to go under any circumstances.

[Jedi31293]

Why change one of the best deaths in the game? Thane knew he was going to die ever since we met him in ME2. There is no reason to change that.

[wildannie]

It wasn't the best death by a long way, It made little sense generally and for a romanced Thane it made no sense at all. There should have been a choice... ideally the choice should have been one that Thane took depending upon his state of mind. I would love to see a DLC that could introduce a variable that could allow for his life to be prolonged so he can still be alive at the end of the game. I think Thane DLC is unlikely.

The best DLC they could make would be a ME2 dlc that gave some love to all the neglected characters (including Thane) and some more romance dialogue where appropriate. This would need to have wide appeal and not be purely focused on romance.

edit: there is a very good reason to change Thane's set in stone outcome... The forced death of Thane ruined the enjoyment of the game for a great many people.

Modifié par wildannie, 27 juin 2012 - 07:12 .

[SeraphSkye]

I don't get it, the guy is terminally ill, we all know this frmo the get-go. He already lived way beyond his projected lifespan according to the doctors, months have passed since ME2 and the start of ME3. The guy died protecting what he believed in and came to Shepard's aid when it mattered.

Thane's bittersweet chapter was closed, and I loved the way they did it.

Modifié par SeraphSkye, 27 juin 2012 - 07:38 .

[-Skorpious-]

Nah, Thane's death should stay. Both Bioware's writers and the character himself made it pretty clear that he was toast come ME3.

Anyways, kinda the wrong forum considering that you have ME3 registered isn't it?

[Julia_xo]

Thane's original writer, Chris L'Etoile, left the company before ME3. No idea who wrote for Thane in ME3 but they screwed it up. His characterization is a mess, not to mention the trashing of his romance arc. I don't think his death was ever set in stone from the start because BioWare gave themselves room for an alternative outcome by mentioning that he was eligible for the lung transplant in LotSB.

So for the sake of salvaging this amazing character I say HELL YES to new content for him in DLC. Give us that save option, please!

@wildAnnie I would love DLC that adds content for the neglected ME2 characters.

[TheBalzan]

Although I loved Thane I loved his death scene, probably my second favourite scene in the game, I'm not afraid to admit that I may have had a tear in my eye, but I was glad he was allowed a glorious heroic warriors death over a lingering painful death.

[mythlover20]

Jedi31293 wrote...

Why change one of the best deaths in the game? Thane knew he was going to die ever since we met him in ME2. There is no reason to change that.

You have never cared for a terminally ill person, have you? It doesn't seem you have.

Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing for you; no one should have to watch their loved ones wither away to a hollow shell of themselves. But must of us Thanemancers have. We have a lot more of this tragic life experience than most gamers. Unfortunately for you, and the writers, that means that we KNOW EVERYTHING that was wrong wtih the way Thane was depicted. Not just the fact that in a game of choices, his death should never have been forced on to the player (same goes with Legion), but that it was portrayed the wrong way too.

For example. some one with his lung capacity should NOT be able to shadowbox, let along fight. Their body simply does not have the oxygen required to do so. My father had more lung capacity at the end of his life than Thane is said to have, and my father dies from three different types of lung disease. he was certainly not able to do anything like that for the last three years of his life.

The cerebral degredation should have been much more pronounced, and adding a few coughs here and there was just patheric. There are a lot more vocal and physical signs of oxygen deprivation that were not added to Thane.

Also, related to that, Thane should not have survived long enough to reach the hospital, let along make it out of surgery, let alone wake up and be able to converse.

Simply put, going from the way he was portrayed, he was NO WHERE NEAR as sick as they say he is. He has a COLD. nothing more.

Besides, from Thane's VERY FIRST conversation, cures were foreshadowed. Don't believe the bull about a Kepral's cure not being foreshadowed, it was. A LOT MORE than the quarian's adaption.

We're not asking for a monopoly, the way you are. We're just asking for an OPTION. A CHOICE. You don't have to let him live, just as we should not have to let him die. You want him to die, let him die. Let us save him. AND FIX THE CONTENT EITHER WAY!

[Twinkles DeVere]

DLC to save Thane and make him a squad member! He was such an interesting character and although he had a heroic and moving death, it would still be really emotional if you got to save him at the last minute.

HEY EA/BIOWARE - I WOULD BUY THIS!!!

Do you need more of a reason to make it?

Ps. this also counter some fan complaints that the ME3 squad was too small.

[gearseffect]

Well if BW don't want to make steps to provide an option to let Thane live, than both BW and EA can say goodbye to ever getting a cent of my money EVER AGAIN!!

Same goes for Samara as full LI. Lying @ssholes, best deliver and not make sh!t cheesy as hell.

I have little faith in BW, and so I shall continue on being a pain in BW/EA's Balls and Vags. I will not go peacefully I will go fighting and yelling to the very end, I will be bullheaded, stubborn, loud, persistent, vocal, unrelenting, and down right angry. I will not let them push us over, I will not let them get by with half@ssed, I will not be happy until them jackwagons give us what they said.

SO YES Thane DLC, YES Samara DLC, YES Jacob DLC, YES Kelly DLC, YES Vega DLC, YES Batarian DLC, YES Zaeed DLC, YES Kasumi DLC, YES Jack DLC, YES Ash DLC, YES Miranda DLC, YES Grunt, Podak, Wrex, Wreav, Mordin, Kirrahee, Legion/Geth, Aria, Bailey, Rachni, Sheiala, Giana, Emily Wong, DLC YES! GOD WE WANT OUR BIG GODDAMN HEROES RIGHT? DLC FOR THE LOT!

[gearseffect]

For the record I do not intend to write such whacky speeches I just am being me

[Most Definitely Sane]

I support this fully.

At the very least, if they don't want to give us an option to save him, we should get a giant and epic DLC taking place before the Coup involving him.

[BeanieBat]

All we got with Thane in ME3 was ONE very depressing conversation which was followed by his death. He deserved more than that. I would love a Thane DLC to fix that.

[Vlk3]

I wonder why some people are so eager to destroy ME for other players? If correctly implemented, prolonging Thane's life or even a cure wouldn't destroy his death for people who want some tragedy in their game. Just stop being selfish and think about those, who can't play ME3 anymore, because their LI is dead no matter what.

I know some people if given a chance, won't let anyone die, because they like perfect playthroughs. So an option, where you are given choice between Thane and maybe someone other would work. No moral choice, not paragon/renegade. And still, if someone doesn't like that idea- DLCs are optional.

Don't refuse Thane friends and Thanemancers that option.

[kevchy]

I wouldn't mind seeing a DLC of him. Anything could have happened before the coup after you talked to him.

[TullyAckland]

gearseffect wrote...

Well if BW don't want to make steps to provide an option to let Thane live, than both BW and EA can say goodbye to ever getting a cent of my money EVER AGAIN!!

Player choice is important, but we also believe those choices are only meaningful when part of a storyline that bears some reality or truth. With Thane, the player faced the experience of developing a bond with a character that had a terminal disease. We felt it would have trivialized Thane’s experience, and the value of that kind of storyline, if the player was able to simply “solve” his problem and let him live happily ever after.


Also, moved this to spoiler forum.

[Fraevar]

TullyAckland wrote...

Player choice is important, but we also believe those choices are only meaningful when part of a storyline that bears some reality or truth. With Thane, the player faced the experience of developing a bond with a character that had a terminal disease. We felt it would have trivialized Thane’s experience, and the value of that kind of storyline, if the player was able to simply “solve” his problem and let him live happily ever after.


Also, moved this to spoiler forum.

I would put the counter-argument that while that is certainly valid, the reality the Shepard does not ever reflect on Thane again, throughout the entire game (minus the one slide now introduced in the EC) and that the "romance" feels less like an actual romantic moment and more of a quick tumble in the hay is what most Thane fans are upset about. And given how much space was devoted to characters like Liara, I do understand where fans of other characters are coming from. That is my theory on why people want more Thane - because the game content is put together in a way that makes you wonder if it's just there because it "had to be".

[Eain]

TullyAckland wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Well if BW don't want to make steps to provide an option to let Thane live, than both BW and EA can say goodbye to ever getting a cent of my money EVER AGAIN!!

Player choice is important, but we also believe those choices are only meaningful when part of a storyline that bears some reality or truth. With Thane, the player faced the experience of developing a bond with a character that had a terminal disease. We felt it would have trivialized Thane’s experience, and the value of that kind of storyline, if the player was able to simply “solve” his problem and let him live happily ever after.


Also, moved this to spoiler forum.

Except then the ending comes and the player is told that the best ending is a green wave of space magic that simply solves organic life in general, making Thane's affliction seem like a triviality in comparison.

[crimzontearz]

TullyAckland wrote...

gearseffect wrote...Well if BW don't want to make steps to provide an option to let Thane live, than both BW and EA can say goodbye to ever getting a cent of my money EVER AGAIN!!

Player choice is important, but we also believe those choices are only meaningful when part of a storyline that bears some reality or truth. With Thane, the player faced the experience of developing a bond with a character that had a terminal disease. We felt it would have trivialized Thane’s experience, and the value of that kind of storyline, if the player was able to simply “solve” his problem and let him live happily ever after.Also, moved this to spoiler forum.

you mean like you would not allow for an ACTUAL and PROPER reunion with the LIs after the destroy ending? Gee thanks

[kookie28]

I think Miranda would be a more suitable candidate.

[zherok]

SeraphSkye wrote...

I don't get it, the guy is terminally ill, we all know this frmo the get-go. He already lived way beyond his projected lifespan according to the doctors, months have passed since ME2 and the start of ME3. The guy died protecting what he believed in and came to Shepard's aid when it mattered.

Thane's bittersweet chapter was closed, and I loved the way they did it.

Agreed. Dunno how it ends with Thane as a romance, but it was definitely a great dramatic part of the game otherwise.

Vlk3 wrote...

I wonder why some people are so eager to destroy ME for other players? If correctly implemented, prolonging Thane's life or even a cure wouldn't destroy his death for people who want some tragedy in their game. Just stop being selfish and think about those, who can't play ME3 anymore, because their LI is dead no matter what. 

I know some people if given a chance, won't let anyone die, because they like perfect playthroughs. So an option, where you are given choice between Thane and maybe someone other would work. No moral choice, not paragon/renegade. And still, if someone doesn't like that idea- DLCs are optional.

Don't refuse Thane friends and Thanemancers that option.

 
He had a terminal, uncurable illness, in the midst of a galaxy spanning war, and had been injured just prior to illness finally taking his life. Offering last minute cures just because some people can't accept the possibility of anyone ever dying only cheapens his role in the story. Making them optional doesn't suddenly make that sort of DLC good writing either. It's still a lazy way out.

Modifié par zherok, 27 juin 2012 - 11:19 .

[JeosDinas]

Eain wrote...
Except then the ending comes and the player is told that the best ending is a green wave of space magic that simply solves organic life in general, making Thane's affliction seem like a triviality in comparison.

He died before that. People die. Sometimes it's not people who we want to.

[DEATHSCOPE]

New DLC that lets you control Thane during some of his most crucial assassinations.