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[PrimeOfValor]

I think it would be better if thane had more interaction with shepard both as friends and LI, BUT some of might hate me for this if bioware ever take this idea. That we can see the hanar and other drell along with shepard (as well the chance to see the hanar homeworld) putting thane to rest in a feneral as FINAL goodbye.

[syllogi]

I love how people with banners asking for more content and better endings for their own favorite LIs have no problem coming into this thread and telling Thane fans that they are unrealistic for asking for anything more or different.

When ME2 came out, Liara was cold and distant to a Shepard who romanced her in ME1. In that case, at least Liara fans had clues about a DLC for her in the game files, but it was still pretty disconcerting. Then the Lair of the Shadowbroker DLC came out, and even people who didn't romance Liara found it to be a great mission.

Again, if Miranda died with no chance to save her, and she was never acknowledged again, there would be a problem. If Jack were turned into a Banshee even if you did the Grissom Academy mission, there would be a problem. And don't even get me started on how things would be on this forum if the quarians always lost to the geth and Tali always took the cliff dive.

Thane's death scene is cool IF you weren't in a romance with him. Thane's sacrifice is noble, but if you did his loyalty mission, he's leaving his son behind, again, and if he's in a romance with Shepard, it's even more tragic.

How is asking for DLC that lets Thane fans whose Shepards romanced him say goodbye properly, and acknowledge him after he's gone, hurting anyone else? Or even if they did have a cure DLC, if the mission was fun and well written, would it really be cheapening the death scene that was already in the game?

[giftfish]

disc0nnect7 wrote...
 I was one of those hoping for the fabled Kahje mission.

I was totally unaware of the script leak on the Invictus Mission, until now. 

Assuming that it's true, I'd love to hear BW's justification of cutting what could have been a great ME2 squaddie side-mission from the game, especially considering the decrease in amount of content in ME3 when compared to ME1-2. 

Not to mention it gave them the perfect place to introduce the option for the cure. It could have been a bit like Mordin's mission, where depending on player choice, Thane/Drell either would or wouldn't get the cure.  This then could have had repercussions for the invasion and fight with the ceral ninja:

A. Thane/Drell Cured: Thane kicks Leng's ass, we get Drell and Hanar War Assets, Thane's romance arc gets improved
B. Thane/Drell Uncured: Leng fight stays as is & Thane dies, no Drell/Hanar War Assets, Thane's romance arc still gets improved

I'd definitely vote for this as a larger part of an Expanded Romance DLC Pack.

[PsyrenY]

syllogi wrote...

Again, if Miranda died with no chance to save her, and she was never acknowledged again, there would be a problem. If Jack were turned into a Banshee even if you did the Grissom Academy mission, there would be a problem. And don't even get me started on how things would be on this forum if the quarians always lost to the geth and Tali always took the cliff dive.

Again, none of those characters had a terminal illness. Did you read Tully's post?

[The Smitchens]

I'm just gonna throw this out there... I want nothing to do with Thane-altering DLC. I think it would completely kill the emotion of Thane dying. In reality we just can't save everyone, and Thane is just that. Even with as many choices as we have in life some things we just cannot change.

[giftfish]

@syllogi -- Well said.

[giftfish]

The Smitchens wrote...

I'm just gonna throw this out there... I want nothing to do with Thane-altering DLC. I think it would completely kill the emotion of Thane dying. In reality we just can't save everyone, and Thane is just that. Even with as many choices as we have in life some things we just cannot change.

Please read the contents of the thread, especially the post here. 

1.  We aren't suggesting that the current content be removed.  You can still have him die, like you want to.  We are only asking for an option to let him live, based on player decision.
2. While the title of this thread is a bit misleading, most of us are supporting a "Romance DLC Pack" where all the romances in ME3 are given more proper consideration, as most of them have issues.

Modifié par giftfish, 29 juin 2012 - 01:41 .

[syllogi]

Optimystic_X wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Again, if Miranda died with no chance to save her, and she was never acknowledged again, there would be a problem. If Jack were turned into a Banshee even if you did the Grissom Academy mission, there would be a problem. And don't even get me started on how things would be on this forum if the quarians always lost to the geth and Tali always took the cliff dive.

Again, none of those characters had a terminal illness. Did you read Tully's post?

Did you play this game, that takes place in space, featuring space magic, aliens, and the Synthesis ending?

Cure a terminal illness OH GOD THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC let me get back to my ending where the power of love causes cyber pixie dust to make everybody happy and the same.

[cbutz]

I would like DLC for all of the ME 2 LIs (Samara included).

[giftfish]

syllogi wrote...
Cure a terminal illness OH GOD THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC let me get back to my ending where the power of love causes cyber pixie dust to make everybody happy and the same.

Lol.

[giftfish]

cbutz wrote...

I would like DLC for all of the ME 2 LIs (Samara included).

Thanks for your support.  I'd love to see more of Samara in ME3.

[disc0nnect7]

giftfish wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...
 I was one of those hoping for the fabled Kahje mission.

I was totally unaware of the script leak on the Invictus Mission, until now. 

Assuming that it's true, I'd love to hear BW's justification of cutting what could have been a great ME2 squaddie side-mission from the game, especially considering the decrease in amount of content in ME3 when compared to ME1-2. 

Not to mention it gave them the perfect place to introduce the option for the cure. It could have been a bit like Mordin's mission, where depending on player choice, Thane/Drell either would or wouldn't get the cure.  This then could have had repercussions for the invasion and fight with the ceral ninja:

A. Thane/Drell Cured: Thane kicks Leng's ass, we get Drell and Hanar War Assets, Thane's romance arc gets improved
B. Thane/Drell Uncured: Leng fight stays as is & Thane dies, no Drell/Hanar War Assets, Thane's romance arc still gets improved

I'd definitely vote for this as a larger part of an Expanded Romance DLC Pack.

Actually the "Invictus" mission was just rumored to be in an article by some magazine (an Xbox one, I think?). I should have said fabled "Invictus" mission instead of Kahje, oops! It sounded great though, as untrue as it was. It said you were to go on a mission with Thane as a temp squadmate and save hanar scienctists who were working on a cure for Keprals. This was never officially released in the article, seeing as it was completely false (unfortunately).

In the actual leaked script it said Thane, Kasumi and Shepard work to take down Udina after learning of his corruption. Thane assassinates Udina and then just dies. So it would seem he didn't have much of a role in the leaked script either.

[Yokokorama]

I totally support this idea. Thane, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, and some old favorites should get DLC. Half of the ME2 crew that played pretty big roles just got side-paneled in ME3, which kind of didn't feel right IMO.

[disc0nnect7]

syllogi wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Again, if Miranda died with no chance to save her, and she was never acknowledged again, there would be a problem. If Jack were turned into a Banshee even if you did the Grissom Academy mission, there would be a problem. And don't even get me started on how things would be on this forum if the quarians always lost to the geth and Tali always took the cliff dive.

Again, none of those characters had a terminal illness. Did you read Tully's post?

Did you play this game, that takes place in space, featuring space magic, aliens, and the Synthesis ending?

Cure a terminal illness OH GOD THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC let me get back to my ending where the power of love causes cyber pixie dust to make everybody happy and the same.

The genophage was cured by Mordin in just a few months, BW could have written an easy explanation for a Keprals cure if they actually wanted to. There are also various methods of treament in his LOTSB dossier.

Shepard died for christ's sake and was brought back from the dead, but a cure/treatment for Thane? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE

[Yokokorama]

Yeah, I agree with the above. When compared to bringing someone back to the dead or curing a disease that has plagued an entire race for ages, curing an illness doesn't really look like too much of a big deal.  I bet Mordin or any competent scientist could have cooked up something for Thane, given the time and resources.

Modifié par Yokokorama, 29 juin 2012 - 02:17 .

[giftfish]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Actually the "Invictus" mission was just rumored to be in an article by some magazine (an Xbox one, I think?). I should have said fabled "Invictus" mission instead of Kahje, oops! It sounded great though, as untrue as it was. It said you were to go on a mission with Thane as a temp squadmate and save hanar scienctists who were working on a cure for Keprals. This was never officially released in the article, seeing as it was completely false (unfortunately).

In the actual leaked script it said Thane, Kasumi and Shepard work to take down Udina after learning of his corruption. Thane assassinates Udina and then just dies. So it would seem he didn't have much of a role in the leaked script either.

Gotcha.  Thanks for clearing that up

[gmboy902]

What is it with BSN and the idea that everyone is going to live? This is a war where people die, and not just the grunts that the Alliance tosses out to fight the Reapers. Main characters will die. Former squad mates that we like will die.

To be quite honest, if they hadn't made some forced deaths (Legion, Thane, etc.) then I would criticize it for being too much sunshine and butterflies and not enough death robot invasion.

[PsyrenY]

syllogi wrote...

Did you play this game, that takes place in space, featuring space magic, aliens, and the Synthesis ending?

Cure a terminal illness OH GOD THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC let me get back to my ending where the power of love causes cyber pixie dust to make everybody happy and the same.

So you didn't read it then?

Of course it's possible for Bioware to cure it. They chose not to.

And I still haven't heard a response from any of you about Thane's wife. Does your Shepard not care about her?

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 29 juin 2012 - 02:24 .

[mnomaha]

She's dead and has been for ten years. She will always be a part of Thane. Just as anyone who has lost a husband/wife will always remember and cherish their lost love.

Don't be silly. You can love more than one person in a lifetime...providing that you are indeed capable of such an emotion.

edited for rudness on my part.

Modifié par mnomaha, 29 juin 2012 - 03:00 .

[syllogi]

Optimystic_X wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Did you play this game, that takes place in space, featuring space magic, aliens, and the Synthesis ending?

Cure a terminal illness OH GOD THAT IS SO UNREALISTIC let me get back to my ending where the power of love causes cyber pixie dust to make everybody happy and the same.

So you didn't read it then?

Of course it's possible for Bioware to cure it. They chose not to.

And I still haven't heard a response from any of you about Thane's wife. Does your Shepard not care about her?

I read his response, but that does not take into account the fact that the story, as written, ignores the Thane romance.  The writers and devs may feel like Thane's story was complete as written, but Thane's fans obviously don't.  The writers were happy with the original ending as written, and look how fan input changed that too.

And as for Thane's wife...how does letting a Shepard who romanced Thane actually REACT to his death, say something appropriate to a lover in his death scene, and talk about him after he's dead....how exactly does that do anything to Thane's wife?  And what if he lived, even a little longer?  Are you saying that him living, and being a good parent to his son, and having a life with Shepard would be disrespectful to his dead wife???

For the record, by the way, I don't have a character who has romanced Thane.  I support the idea of the DLC, despite the fact that it's not the dream space waifu DLC catering directly to me.  It's still a good idea and could be entertaining for most players.

[giftfish]

Optimystic_X wrote...

And I still haven't heard a response from any of you about Thane's wife. Does your Shepard not care about her?

I'm not sure I realize your point.  Thane's wife died I think 10 years before ME2 took place.  Are you saying Thane shouldn't be moving on after his wife's death?  10 years is too soon?

[giftfish]

gmboy902 wrote...

What is it with BSN and the idea that everyone is going to live? This is a war where people die, and not just the grunts that the Alliance tosses out to fight the Reapers. Main characters will die. Former squad mates that we like will die.

To be quite honest, if they hadn't made some forced deaths (Legion, Thane, etc.) then I would criticize it for being too much sunshine and butterflies and not enough death robot invasion.

I agree with you to a point.  For example, Mordin died in my game.  I think his entire storyline in ME3, and his death were very well written -- fantastic even.  While I'm a "happy ending" type of girl, I appreciated his death.  His characterization in ME3 was congruent to that in ME2.

We're not asking for all sunshine and bunnies.  I've written out here, what we are asking for.

[PsyrenY]

mnomaha wrote...

She's dead and has been for ten years. She will always be a part of Thane. Just as anyone who has lost a husband/wife will always remember and cherish their lost love.

And now he's finally going to her. So let him.

syllogi wrote...

I read his response, but that does not take into account the fact that the story, as written, ignores the Thane romance.  The writers and devs may feel like Thane's story was complete as written, but Thane's fans obviously don't.  The writers were happy with the original ending as written, and look how fan input changed that too.

And as for Thane's wife...how does letting a Shepard who romanced Thane actually REACT to his death, say something appropriate to a lover in his death scene, and talk about him after he's dead....how exactly does that do anything to Thane's wife?  And what if he lived, even a little longer?  Are you saying that him living, and being a good parent to his son, and having a life with Shepard would be disrespectful to his dead wife???

For the record, by the way, I don't have a character who has romanced Thane.  I support the idea of the DLC, despite the fact that it's not the dream space waifu DLC catering directly to me.  It's still a good idea and could be entertaining for most players.

I have no problem with more Thane/better romance prior to his death. But the OP wants a miracle cure for his waifu, not a better send-off.

EDIT: Rereading, it's even creepier than that. "Thane shouldn't be forced to go under any circumstances." So it looks like the OP wants to strap a graybox to his head and keep him in Shep's cabin, forever.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 29 juin 2012 - 03:18 .

[mnomaha]

Legion and Mordin, as much as I did love them, were not love interests. And they didn't die from a stupid sword would complication from an idiot troll ninja wannabe saving a councilor nobody gave two craps about. Kirrahe could have done it (and did) just the same.

Legion died for his entire race. Mordin died to save an entire race. There is a difference.

[mnomaha]

Wow...apparently I was correct and you are definitely not capable.