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[Keltic]

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

[firel]

Optimystic_X wrote...

firel wrote...

We want an option. Let me bold it again and underline since you need some help. Option. In the same way you have an option to save:
Mordin
Tali
Miranda
and Jack

Point of order - none of those were terminally ill.

And saving Mordin requires some pretty ****ty choices on Shepard's part anyway.

Tali says that she can die if she takes off her suit. Imagine if she had died from that. It's realistic given what she says.
Oh wait, Tali is a Mshep romance so of course not!

Hey hey, there were instances where a cure for him was implied. In the
shadow broker files, by Thane himself, and news article about new
medigel for the lungs. Oh and Bioware officially supported the Cure
Thane campaign. Thane's writer in ME2 did not know what direction they
were going to take him in.
Translation: It was open-ended. There was
obvious hope. It could have gone in either direction. However Bioware
forgot he was an LI, retconned romanced Thane at the last moment, and
threw him against Kai Leng because he was there and they were too lazy
to make more content for him. Also since he's a Femshep exclusive
straight romance, who gives a crap anyway? Female gamers aren't worth
anything.

[firel]

Keltic101 wrote...

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

I really suggest you go see the romance videos for Thane. Because he comes to Shep's cabin saying that he does not want to die in ME2. If you romance him it is a completely different story.

[Moira-chan]

AxStapleton wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...


yes,
this would be the easiest option...and i think the best... you can have
it in every variation, and it depends on how you talk and dealed with
him, weather he's willing to fight or not.
we knew so many cases
right at the present, where a human survived a bad injury just because
of his will, why should that not work for a drell? thane has i strong
will i believe and if he want to fight for kolyat and shepard, to at
their side, it would be finde, he could manage it to be alive...
and i
also cannot believe, that kolyat was the only drell on citadell able to
donate blood. there is such a strong connection between hanar and
drells, why don't the hanar bring drell with them? as friends, as
companions, i cannot believe it...

Just a little
fact check. At the time of ME2, its assumed that there are very few
Drell left at all. There are even at the very least  about 10 Quarians
in existence to Each Drell. So in a Galaxy, I imagine that anywhere
other than the Hanar Homeworld, that it is very unlikely to see a Drell.

Don't get me wrong, I felt that it could have been treated a lot better.

i got it before and was really happy about it, but well...sure there are not  many drells, but there are 3 points which let me rethink this:

1) even on rakhana, the original planet of drells, the codex said, that there live around 250.000 drells again.

2) i said before

3) thane told that the younger drells cut of the culture of the older ones. they do not belive in the 3 godness anymore and turn to the asari believes and leave hanar for doing something like the quarian does, so why should there not be any young drells on citadell, the capital of the universe...


well not to mention that no reserve for blood of drells shows, how unprepared huerta is (sorry dr. michelle)...they should have conserve for every species and really...it was easy to save him...blood lost can even handle know, i'm biologist and read a lot medical stuff afterwards and came to the conclusion, that thane could even be saved today and in the future not? well...i found that hard to believe, but it least he has to die at this moment, i was really prepared, but i wished, that there was more content, more difference for romance...
why was my shepard not crying? sure, it can be shock, i know this feeling so well, but even afterwards, even in the last night before the battle, there was nothing.

well when i renember it right, any me2 li did get something on the romance night, right? just vi, liara, tali and garrus

Modifié par Moira-chan, 28 juin 2012 - 11:20 .

[Cribbian]

Hopefully the ME2 LI-book and other projects have had a big enough impact that they decide to do something.

Justice for the neglected

[Moira-chan]

Cribbian wrote...

Hopefully the ME2 LI-book and other projects have had a big enough impact that they decide to do something.

Justice for the neglected

you're so right, thank you :happy:

Modifié par Moira-chan, 28 juin 2012 - 11:22 .

[Moira-chan]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

Cribbian wrote...

Hopefully the ME2 LI-book and other projects have had a big enough impact that they decide to do something.

Justice for the neglected

you're so right, thanks you :happy:

This got to be my new favorite person. Justice for all failed romances!

@Moria... when I was rewritting your medical essay, I nearly died laughing. It wasn't over what you wrote, but how all this nonsense about his illness was so easily defunk in your essay. I am so glad that I sent it in along with everything else.

thanks squee, you really shocked me at the first moment and i thought: am...why was it so funny? but i don't laugh about it, while i write it, even not sarcastic...as i was reading more and more about it, my wish to throw the medicine books at bioware, casey or whoever got strong and stronger...
but it shows, that they did not care about him. i'm glad that beanie did one two, so it shows, that i'm not the only one coming to this conclusion, there where others, so i cannot be that wrong

[siha13]

Keltic101 wrote...

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

i believe you haven't romanced him im me2 so you could see his last moments with female Shep.He didnt want to die and he was scared of his death, although at the beginning he wanted to.His relationship with Shepard changed that and she helped him achieve a lot.So i do not really understand how not dying will had such a devastating affect on his storyline .

[d1ta]

Hi, I'm just dropping in to show support

Although I romanced Kaidan (and no one else ever since ME1) I can understand your pain :'( and Jacob mancer's pain as well. We could get very attached to the characters in this universe, especially to the LI's that it's almost insane (hoo boy.. Horizon hurts pretty bad back then.. Didn't move on to other romance in 2 because I just don't want to find anybody else. I'm just glad I got my guy back in 3 *_*)
I just wish they treated all character's romance arc the same, that you don't get 'punished' for loving the wrong 'choice' or the non-canon LI.
I'm fine if the dlc offers choice to let Thane live if you romance him, but he dies if he's just your friend.
Also would like to voice support to retcon the Jacob romance. God that was awful! >.<

[Steel Dancer]

Reading through this thread is downright painful.

Thane was mis-characterised for an LI in ME3.

He ends ME2 - as a romanced character - wanting to live, and that just gets thrown away in 3. He wants to live, to be by his Sihas' side, to help as much as he can, and it just goes to "nope, all done, finished, no worries".

Now they could have made it quite hard to keep him alive during the course of the game, and that would have been fine (Headcanon can be a wonderful thing).

It could have required, say, Kirrahe to have lived as well, helping in the fight (where was he, btw, shouldn't he have been assigned to cover the Councillor regardless or are the salarians in the habit of assuming terminally ill drell will drop by to provide protection?).

Thanes death is the only forced LI death in the entire game, and that's the bit that rubs people raw. Have a little empathy people!

Oh, for the record, I don't have any Sheps romancing Thane.

[GreenFlag]

I like Thane but he deserve rest in peace. I don't know how to save him.
If you save him before Kai Leng, he died for his disease, there is no option...

I'm sorry for that, but this is cruel true and you have to accept that.

Modifié par GreenFlag, 28 juin 2012 - 01:49 .

[Candidate 88766]

Keltic101 wrote...

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

Yeah, I agree with this.

It was such a central part of his character that taking it away would be a disservice.

[wildannie]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Keltic101 wrote...

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

Yeah, I agree with this.

It was such a central part of his character that taking it away would be a disservice.

That was his stance when he joins with shepard, it changes when he's romanced.  Thane was much more than his disease.

[RShara]

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Maybe if we say it enough times people will listen?

[Moira-chan]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Reading through this thread is downright painful.

Thane was mis-characterised for an LI in ME3.

He ends ME2 - as a romanced character - wanting to live, and that just gets thrown away in 3. He wants to live, to be by his Sihas' side, to help as much as he can, and it just goes to "nope, all done, finished, no worries".

Now they could have made it quite hard to keep him alive during the course of the game, and that would have been fine (Headcanon can be a wonderful thing).

It could have required, say, Kirrahe to have lived as well, helping in the fight (where was he, btw, shouldn't he have been assigned to cover the Councillor regardless or are the salarians in the habit of assuming terminally ill drell will drop by to provide protection?).

Thanes death is the only forced LI death in the entire game, and that's the bit that rubs people raw. Have a little empathy people!

Oh, for the record, I don't have any Sheps romancing Thane.

thank you for this, thats just what we're saying all the time

[EnaShepard]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Reading through this thread is downright painful.

Thane was mis-characterised for an LI in ME3.

He ends ME2 - as a romanced character - wanting to live, and that just gets thrown away in 3. He wants to live, to be by his Sihas' side, to help as much as he can, and it just goes to "nope, all done, finished, no worries".

Now they could have made it quite hard to keep him alive during the course of the game, and that would have been fine (Headcanon can be a wonderful thing).

It could have required, say, Kirrahe to have lived as well, helping in the fight (where was he, btw, shouldn't he have been assigned to cover the Councillor regardless or are the salarians in the habit of assuming terminally ill drell will drop by to provide protection?).

Thanes death is the only forced LI death in the entire game, and that's the bit that rubs people raw. Have a little empathy people!

Oh, for the record, I don't have any Sheps romancing Thane.

Thank you. Thank you.

[Moira-chan]

RShara wrote...

Romanced Thane is not at peace with dying.
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Maybe if we say it enough times people will listen?

you sound like bart simpson, shara, hahah xD

but i don't think so, when even logicall arguments don't arrive them

[firel]

I think I'm going to have to make a gif set of the ME2 romance scene where Thane says he doesn't want to die and spam it here, because people are too lazy to even Youtube it.

[Moira-chan]

great idea firel, i often posted a video of his romance night, but i guess no one watched the link, but if they don't see it, they will not understand

[Renmiri1]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Keltic101 wrote...

the whole concept of Thane from ME2 was that he was seeking redemption before he died from his illness so really keeping him alive would sort of invalidate the whole storyline.

Yeah, I agree with this.

It was such a central part of his character that taking it away would be a disservice.

Did ANY of you die Thane supporters do his Loyalty Mission ? He has a son, a son that he abandoned and that is in such bad shape that he decides to be an assassin just to be like his father, without having trained for it, without having the duty to do it as part of the drell agreement with the hanar. (That is why Thane is an asssassin, is not because he likes killing.He was given to the hanar to be trained as their assassin when he was 6 years old).

Thane's family's debt to the Hanar is paid. His son doesn't need to be an assassin. Thane is desperate to avoid that the boy follow in his footsteps, and desperate to reconnect with the son he abandoned while hunting for his wife's killers.

So you think Thane seeks redemption by abandoning his son once more ? Is that your view of it ?

No Thane's redemption can only be accomplished by being there for his son, ALIVE. You would know that if you paid attention but I guess people want the cheap "feels" that come with a tragic death, regardless of the story.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 28 juin 2012 - 04:16 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

Bumping up my support....if we can also get a Samara dlc romance and Jacob...or atleast an option to call out on jacob for being a cheater and not take it like some waify wife with self esteem issues. (Hell if they are gonna turn him into a stereotype I should get the option to slap him and call him out on it grumble grumble)

[stysiaq]

My Thane sensors are tingling.

If Thane's romance was treated properly, his fans wouldn't be upset, even with him ying.

Noone said about 'simply' solving his problem.

Tully can say anything he desires, but it won't change the fact, that Thane needs fixing in ME3.
Noone mentions him.
I can't mourn him properly.
I get an old email.
Kaidan obnouxiously tries to jump in his boots without showing any support.

It's ok, if he dies IF you didn't show him reasons to live for. But even if you do, Thane accepts his upcoming death in ME3. This should be changed.

At least now I get to see his face in EC before shooting the tube or grabbing the joysticks. But it is not enough.

[stysiaq]

And no, no "Thane" DLC.

we need "ME2 characters" DLC.
We spent the whole second game recruiting them. I want to see them in action during Priority: Earth, I want to see them fight, I want to see their story arcs expanded, I want some squad comebacks. Probably not going to happen though.