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[Eterna]

Sometimes there isn't a happy ending.

[ed87]

A lot of the ending does stink of an attempt to get people to buy DLC/ future titles. Its a shame that they also killed the interest of many.

The closure was there, but it wasnt great.


My favourite ending was refusal and that had ZERO closure

Modifié par ed87, 27 juin 2012 - 08:53 .

[Darman]

Exactly my Point.

We need an LI-Epilouge Scene.
With Tali on Rannoch. After a Reunion. Thats what I hoped for.

But no, again just that breath. End. this really needs to changed.

[Naltair]

ed87 wrote...

A lot of the ending does stink of an attempt to get people to buy DLC/ future titles. Its a shame that they also killed the interest of many.

The closure was there, but it wasnt great.


My favourite ending was refusal and that had ZERO closure

Why do you need closure when you doomed your cycle to death?  There is no reunion everyone got harvested?

[Kick In The Door]

Xewaka wrote...

You got closure. That it wasn't the closure you wanted is a different thing, but it's there.

^^^^ This.. Perhaps OP, you'd be interested in some nice light tales like Goldilocks and The Three Bears? Little Red Riding Hood?Or how about Humpty Dumpty?

[Kick In The Door]

Mcfly616 wrote...

No sacrifice.....no victory.....



For those about to rock.....we salute you!




Cant believe people actually expected a perfect ending with ponies and rainbows.....grow a pair for crying out loud....oh...Nvm....you are crying.out loud.....

I like this cat. 

[thisisme8]

Darman wrote...

Exactly my Point.

We need an LI-Epilouge Scene.
With Tali on Rannoch. After a Reunion. Thats what I hoped for.

But no, again just that breath. End. this really needs to changed.

I keep seeing this whole "reunion with LI thing."  Maybe after all the time you put into ME, you should reuinite with your actual girlfriend and leave the imaginary one alone?

[SpawnedX]

thisisme8 wrote...

Darman wrote...

Exactly my Point.

We need an LI-Epilouge Scene.
With Tali on Rannoch. After a Reunion. Thats what I hoped for.

But no, again just that breath. End. this really needs to changed.

I keep seeing this whole "reunion with LI thing."  Maybe after all the time you put into ME, you should reuinite with your actual girlfriend and leave the imaginary one alone?

My real life wife sat beside me the entire 3 games and cried at the lack of a reunion. Get a better response.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Xewaka wrote...

You got closure. That it wasn't the closure you wanted is a different thing, but it's there.

I didn't ask for closure. I asked for a form of victory where you aren't collaborating with a war criminal, and for a way to survive where the specific sacrifice involved isn't a genocide. It could be a different sacrifice, but that specific one is so horrific that many of us can't stomach it.

We didn't get either of those things, so they definitely didn't listen to me, at least. I know a lot of people wanted some way to survive without genocide, though.

The amount of effort that went into trying to make collaborating with evil seem like a good thing is staggering, but it wasn't enough, and it didn't work for me.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 27 juin 2012 - 04:40 .

[Malditor]

I can understand you being upset that you didn't get your "happily ever after" ending. Problem is, you should have known that was not going to change with the EC as it would have been a significant change to the endings which they said wouldn't happen. They did a great job of answering a multitude of questions and requests posed by the community and even adding in a refuse option which was suprising. They did a good job of closing out the story, though not all will agree they followed the lore of the previous games. I'm glad they made it so that no choice was inherently right or wrong but subjective to the person making it.

[SpawnedX]

Malditor wrote...

I can understand you being upset that you didn't get your "happily ever after" ending. Problem is, you should have known that was not going to change with the EC as it would have been a significant change to the endings which they said wouldn't happen. They did a great job of answering a multitude of questions and requests posed by the community and even adding in a refuse option which was suprising. They did a good job of closing out the story, though not all will agree they followed the lore of the previous games. I'm glad they made it so that no choice was inherently right or wrong but subjective to the person making it.

And they will never get another dime from me.

[Gravbh]

If there was an ending that had Shepard holding hands with little blue babies, building Tali a house or teaching an adopted kid how to shoot mercs with Garrus, that would be the default best ending which EVERYONE would pick.

They're not going to make one ending heads and shoulders better than the others like that. They want people to actually have to pick on what they perceive to be the merits of each ending and debate them. The implication of a reunion is enough for people who want to see it, but it's also up in the air enough to not push destroy above the other 2 endings just because of it.

[WQFNHJNHNFNFNFBFNFN]

If you choose Synth/Control- Shepard is dead.

If you picked Destroy low EMS- Shepard is dead.

If you picked Destroy high EMS- Shepard is alive. He is either a) on the Citadel. on Earth. There is no reason that he wouldn't be found, and no reason he wouldn't get to see his crew and LI again.

There is a difference between offering no clousure (pre EC ending) and expecting players to draw logical conclusions based on the information presented (post EC ending).

[Poizun85]

You sacrificed yoursel to save the ENTIRE galazy. That is closure for Shepherd... The sacrifice of the few for the survival of the many. If you wan't all happy endings go watch some Disney movies...

[SpawnedX]

Gravbh wrote...

If there was an ending that had Shepard holding hands with little blue babies, building Tali a house or teaching an adopted kid how to shoot mercs with Garrus, that would be the default best ending which EVERYONE would pick.

They're not going to make one ending heads and shoulders better than the others like that. They want people to actually have to pick on what they perceive to be the merits of each ending and debate them. The implication of a reunion is enough for people who want to see it, but it's also up in the air enough to not push destroy above the other 2 endings just because of it.

Your logic is flawed, as destroy is the only ending Shepard lives. If anything you said was true than everyone would have picked this ending already.

To simple add 15 seconds onto the breathing scene in which you hear your LI's voice say "Shepard..." and then reach down to help him/her up and then fade to black would not jeopardize anything. It would have been all that was needed for the people who are vested emotionally in this aspect of the character relationships.

[Gravbh]

SpawnedX wrote...

Gravbh wrote...

If there was an ending that had Shepard holding hands with little blue babies, building Tali a house or teaching an adopted kid how to shoot mercs with Garrus, that would be the default best ending which EVERYONE would pick.

They're not going to make one ending heads and shoulders better than the others like that. They want people to actually have to pick on what they perceive to be the merits of each ending and debate them. The implication of a reunion is enough for people who want to see it, but it's also up in the air enough to not push destroy above the other 2 endings just because of it.

Your logic is flawed, as destroy is the only ending Shepard lives. If anything you said was true than everyone would have picked this ending already.

To simple add 15 seconds onto the breathing scene in which you hear your LI's voice say "Shepard..." and then reach down to help him/her up and then fade to black would not jeopardize anything. It would have been all that was needed for the people who are vested emotionally in this aspect of the character relationships.

Hardly. It doesn't straight up say what his condition is. Maybe it's a last gasp? Obviously not everyone picked the ending because of it. Something as blatant as a blue-baby epilogue would NOT be open for interpretation like it is now.

[Mcfly616]

Kick In The Door wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

You got closure. That it wasn't the closure you wanted is a different thing, but it's there.

^^^^ This.. Perhaps OP, you'd be interested in some nice light tales like Goldilocks and The Three Bears? Little Red Riding Hood?Or how about Humpty Dumpty

Lol nice....

Yeah pretty much....that's what they want....


I find it hilarious that people are outright admitting "I hate it. There's no reunion".....well good, that let's everybody know that there really is nothing wrong with the EC endings, and you're all crying over spilled milk.....babies.....the end was originally terrible.because it didn't make sense......now it completely makes sense. Mission Accomplished

[CptData]

SpawnedX wrote...

 I don't care what you think random poster who is going to come in here and post something negative about this topic. Don't expect a reply. This is for BioWare.

Acknowledged.

All most of us wanted, was closure for the Commander. Reunion with the girl/guy and a real feeling that we can walk away from his story and be ready for whatever you had next. Instead you had to pull a Halo and leave it open for a sequel or just a cruel joke on our heart strings.

Well. Shepard got his/her closure.

Control: becoming "God".
Synthesis: getting vaporized
Destruction: dies / survives
Rejection: dies

Pretty much closure, or do I miss the point?

Shepard's story is done in most endings except the high EMS ending (propably with Anderson alive). There won't be a ME4 following Shepard's trails again. That's what EA and BW have stated. Sure, they CAN make a ME4 with Shepard, but that wouldn't work. What bigger threat could emerge so someone calls Shepard again?

Just remember: even if Shepard survived ME3, s/he's stripped of any cybernetic components. Shepard is old Shepard again, a normal human. And most likely crippled for life.

If this was truly the end of his story, than why was it so hard for you to close it out?

Tali'Zorah vas Normandy, I will find you.

I'm sure Tali!Zorah vas Normandy finds you.

[Malditor]

SpawnedX wrote...

Malditor wrote...

I can understand you being upset that you didn't get your "happily ever after" ending. Problem is, you should have known that was not going to change with the EC as it would have been a significant change to the endings which they said wouldn't happen. They did a great job of answering a multitude of questions and requests posed by the community and even adding in a refuse option which was suprising. They did a good job of closing out the story, though not all will agree they followed the lore of the previous games. I'm glad they made it so that no choice was inherently right or wrong but subjective to the person making it.

And they will never get another dime from me.

That's certainly your right. Nobody disputes that. However, saying that they didn't "listen to us at all" is definitely a false statement as they did listen as evidenced by the EC being made at all as well as the addition of the refusal ending. Making such a definitive statement when it is inherently false only leads to people disagreeing with you.

[Mcfly616]

SpawnedX wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

Darman wrote...

Exactly my Point.

We need an LI-Epilouge Scene.
With Tali on Rannoch. After a Reunion. Thats what I hoped for.

But no, again just that breath. End. this really needs to changed.

I keep seeing this whole "reunion with LI thing."  Maybe after all the time you put into ME, you should reuinite with your actual girlfriend and leave the imaginary one alone?

My real life wife sat beside me the entire 3 games and cried at the lack of a reunion. Get a better response.

Cool story.....the lack of L.I. reunion was never the problem.with the endings......to say so is false. Get better logic

[arkhine]

darkstarxt wrote...

Because we want to finish with the Story once and for all. 

Instead it will haunt us in our nightmares forever.

Then we will remember it forever. Best game series I've played and I played it since the original Mass Effect came out for PC. Looking forward to new SP dlc and I need to finish up my NG+.

[SpawnedX]

Malditor wrote...

SpawnedX wrote...

Malditor wrote...

I can understand you being upset that you didn't get your "happily ever after" ending. Problem is, you should have known that was not going to change with the EC as it would have been a significant change to the endings which they said wouldn't happen. They did a great job of answering a multitude of questions and requests posed by the community and even adding in a refuse option which was suprising. They did a good job of closing out the story, though not all will agree they followed the lore of the previous games. I'm glad they made it so that no choice was inherently right or wrong but subjective to the person making it.

And they will never get another dime from me.

That's certainly your right. Nobody disputes that. However, saying that they didn't "listen to us at all" is definitely a false statement as they did listen as evidenced by the EC being made at all as well as the addition of the refusal ending. Making such a definitive statement when it is inherently false only leads to people disagreeing with you.

The statement is definitive, as evident by how many other people are pissed off about this.

If I want a sad or bittersweet story, I will read the news.

[Simotech]

Artistic integrity.

Sorry.

[arkhine]

CptData wrote...
Just remember: even if Shepard survived ME3, s/he's stripped of any cybernetic components. Shepard is old Shepard again, a normal human. And most likely crippled for life.

Didn't get that part. The Catalyst says Shepard is partly synthetic which is true because of Cerberus. Yet we don't see what happens to him after wiping out the rest of the synthetics. I suppose you may be right, really crippled. Already injured plus the implants that were keeping him going since ME2.

[eye basher]

Thank god they didn't most of the ideas people had here were crap anyway.

Modifié par eye basher, 27 juin 2012 - 05:21 .