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#76
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SpawnedX wrote...

The statement is definitive, as evident by how many other people are pissed off about this.

If I want a sad or bittersweet story, I will read the news.


That statement is false though, they did listen to "us" as a community. To be more accurate you should have said "you didn't listen to us about reuniting with our LI" as it is you left it open to anyone who had a complaint/comment/question about the endings.

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arkhine wrote...

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Just remember: even if Shepard survived ME3, s/he's stripped of any cybernetic components. Shepard is old Shepard again, a normal human. And most likely crippled for life.


Didn't get that part. The Catalyst says Shepard is partly synthetic which is true because of Cerberus. Yet we don't see what happens to him after wiping out the rest of the synthetics. I suppose you may be right, really crippled. Already injured plus the implants that were keeping him going since ME2.


Well, s/he entered Earth's atmosphere again and got a full blast of that energy released by the Catalyst/Crucible. His/her cybernetics are most likely toast. Good thanks Shepard's brain got no synthetic enhancements, otherwise s/he would suffer mental instabilities or worse.

So surviving Shepard is most likely a normal human being. Not sure if s/he ever fully recovers.

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The logic of some people in this thread is fail.

"You shouldn't be angry, the reunion was implied, it's up for your interpretation/imagination."

So was the original ending, didn't stop you from pissing and moaning. The only difference here is my original complaint was about the lack of reunion and so is this one. I got the breathe scene before. In fact nothing about the EC wasn't already able to be surmised prior.

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SpawnedX wrote...

The logic of some people in this thread is fail.

"You shouldn't be angry, the reunion was implied, it's up for your interpretation/imagination."

So was the original ending, didn't stop you from pissing and moaning. The only difference here is my original complaint was about the lack of reunion and so is this one. I got the breathe scene before. In fact nothing about the EC wasn't already able to be surmised prior.


In the original ending, we had no indication of whether or not the Mass relays would remain usable.  We had no indication if the Normandy was capable of flight, or if any technology was still active.  We didn't know if our whole crew was still on the Normandy, if they had any hope of getting off their deserted planet, of if Tali and Garrus would starve from lack of food, or if anyone had any chance of getting home.

The difference is that now we have enough information to extrapolate.  We know the relays are still functional (assuming destroy, high EMS).  We know that the Normandy could still fly.  We know our crew is all together in the ship, and we know that spacefaring travel is still possible. 

There is a difference between being asked to make random guesses about what will happen based on incomplete and unclear information, and being asked to make logical inferences based on clear cut information.

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SpawnedX wrote...

To simple add 15 seconds onto the breathing scene in which you hear your LI's voice say "Shepard..." and then reach down to help him/her up and then fade to black would not jeopardize anything. It would have been all that was needed for the people who are vested emotionally in this aspect of the character relationships.


Here.  You've written your own ending implied from the shown endings.  You did exactly what was intended.  2 seconds after the cut to black, your LI says "Shepard..." and then reaches down to help you up.  They go start a family of Quarian/Human hybrids with adopted Geth babies.

If you close your eyes, I'm sure you can see it. :lol:

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SpawnedX wrote...

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Exactly my Point.

We need an LI-Epilouge Scene.
With Tali on Rannoch. After a Reunion. Thats what I hoped for.

But no, again just that breath. End. this really needs to changed.


I keep seeing this whole "reunion with LI thing."  Maybe after all the time you put into ME, you should reuinite with your actual girlfriend and leave the imaginary one alone?


My real life wife sat beside me the entire 3 games and cried at the lack of a reunion. Get a better response.


Touchè

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SpawnedX wrote...

The logic of some people in this thread is fail.

"You shouldn't be angry, the reunion was implied, it's up for your interpretation/imagination."

So was the original ending, didn't stop you from pissing and moaning. The only difference here is my original complaint was about the lack of reunion and so is this one. I got the breathe scene before. In fact nothing about the EC wasn't already able to be surmised prior.

Haha this post is quite comical......your logic is hilarious, ironic you brought the topic up....the problem with the original endings wasnt the lack of a reunion....the problem was that they didnt make sense....and now they do.....your logic is ridiculous....you're basically saying that the lack of.reunion makes the EC bad....when in fact that was never the issue

They fixed the issue....it makes sense now....the lack of reunion does not change that, nor does it make it bad......cry a little more over wishful thinking

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If it makes you feel any better, Tali is coming to find me. I owe her a house.

Modifié par G Kevin, 27 juin 2012 - 06:41 .


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SpawnedX wrote...

The logic of some people in this thread is fail.

"You shouldn't be angry, the reunion was implied, it's up for your interpretation/imagination."

So was the original ending, didn't stop you from pissing and moaning. The only difference here is my original complaint was about the lack of reunion and so is this one. I got the breathe scene before. In fact nothing about the EC wasn't already able to be surmised prior.


I understand how you feel about people on the forumns being rude^_^. I find the whole "oh it's another one of these threads" comment to be the equvalent of spam (please bioware make it spam:D). Also people criticizing how a person lives their life based on their oppinions is just ridiculous. Lastly I hate the people who believe you shouldn't be allowed to have a negative oppinion if you aren't a developer yourself (yeah lets push an aristocratic community, I am sure that's what a democratic forumn is intended for<_<). I feel like people go around the forumns not to do anything constructive like give oppinions/ideas/criticisms of the bioware content....but rather to criticize other gamers for not having an oppinion similar to theirs. Just trying to enforce their own autocracies. :pinched:

Bioware social was not like this at all before Dragon Age 2...everyone turned into jerks after Dragon Age 2....<_<

Modifié par infraredman, 28 juin 2012 - 05:13 .


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And for the record, I loved dragon age 2 :wizard: (even if I liked origins more).

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these endings still suck balls. nothing's changed. all I got was an even worse ending, some pretty still images, some short video's and bioware just completely ignored most of the plot holes and just left them there for no reason. I am disappoint... but this isn't the first time I've been burned by them so it doesn't hurt too bad. oh well

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What I wanted most was closure and assurance that the galaxy would continue on as it had before Mass Effect, at least mostly. With a high enough EMS score, I got that from Hackett.

I also wanted conclusion to how my sabotage of the genophage would affect the Krogans, how Rannoch would do now that I destroyed the Geth, and how each of the characters would make off in the future. I wasn't expecting a ride off into the sunset and/or ME1-type ending, with or without your LI. I don't mind that Shepard died.

Other than filling a few plot holes, the EC did little more than what I hoped it would at least do, which is make the war against the Reapers worth fighting again in another playthrough. But it left an alarming amount to the imagination in terms of characters and how your less significant actions affected the galaxy.

Modifié par gmboy902, 28 juin 2012 - 05:22 .


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Now you're way in over your head~

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OP: "They won't get another dime from me".

Well, then say "goodbye" to any chance of seeing a reunion with your Shepard's LI of choice if any kind of DLC related to them is released (and yes, it most certainly could happen), because I highly doubt it'll be free of charge.

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sporeian wrote...

headcanon, fanfics.. take your pick

Damnit, fine.

SO BE IT.

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Jonathan Sud wrote...

sporeian wrote...

headcanon, fanfics.. take your pick

Damnit, fine.

SO BE IT.


I like that. Bioware won't make a decent ending for shepard? SO BE IT

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SpawnedX wrote...
Instead you had to pull a Halo and leave it open for a sequel or just a cruel joke on our heart strings.



In Halo, Spartans were created to fight the insurrectionists, but later, repurposed to fight the Covenant. With Chief being labled the last and best Spartan, since the Covenant was defeated, his purpose in life (save humanity) was lacking. Which is why he says "wake me, when you need me".

But to your point, I am also a little mad that Shep never got reunited with his/her squad and LI.
It was left open to interpretation, speculation and head cannon.

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Shatterhand1701 wrote...

OP: "They won't get another dime from me".

Well, then say "goodbye" to any chance of seeing a reunion with your Shepard's LI of choice if any kind of DLC related to them is released (and yes, it most certainly could happen), because I highly doubt it'll be free of charge.


So when I skimmed I thought this ment someone from bioware said they won't get a dime from me as in the fans won't get anymore on the endings.

but....now....I realize you probably were talking about a fan who won't get any closure due to their unwillingness to pay for more.

heheh I feel smart :P

Modifié par infraredman, 28 juin 2012 - 05:48 .


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Ah hell, I said I would not post here anymore, can't help it. Mild rant following, unapproving folks look away.
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Now that I have seen "Control" and "Synthesis" on Youtube, my opinion of this thing has plummeted. 

I will give credit where it's due. There was some success in the addition of emotional fulfillment through the Normandy cut-scenes, but here's this:

Control:

First there was auto dialogue, now you give me auto-monologue. Shepard, who is supposed to be my avatar, in what is supposed to be a role-playing game is narrating the epilogue. Setting out views which, even had I chosen to assume control over the Reapers, would not have agreed with my own.

Why now be prescriptive as to the interpretation of the ending, when you were so adamant on keeping it open?

Synthesis:

Alright, come on. What is this? Everybody glowing green wondering what the hell happened? Still the "new DNA" idea? It doesn't make any more sense than it did before, not even a smidgen. 

I hate to be rude but how could this be botched so badly?

Conclusion:

You guys are successful because you create games that capture people's emotions. You need to be just a bit more careful as to how you treat them. There is plenty of room for artistic expression, but you need to make sure that when the time comes to conclude a story, you do it so that it results in a lasting positive impression. This game didn't feel like that, it was infact the polar opposite.

I thought I needed to articulate this once more. I probably should lay off playing these kind of games in the future. Didn't expect to be as affected by it, never have been before.




Modifié par Sion1138, 28 juin 2012 - 06:39 .


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Pretty sure that I got what I wanted, actually. So they did listen.