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[BDelacroix]

People keep saying that Destroy ending ends with genocide. I say no.

Imagine this scenario. I am an orange farmer. I want to corner the market on fruit. All I have to do is tell people that eating apples will kill you. My saying it doesn't make it so.

[xOnYourRadar]

Robhuzz wrote...

Not everyone wants their Shepard to live. DAO has an option to avoid your warden from dying but not everyone chooses it because they like the story better that way.

While yes I agree that destroy is the best ending for Shepard, his crew and LI, control will most likely be better for the galaxy at large since you'll have the reapers themselves helping you rebuild it, with Shepard watching over the organics as an eternal guardian. I wouldn't choose this as I want a LI reunion more than the galaxy being rebuilt as fast as possible but I can see how some people prefer it.

Synthesis... not so much. Still would never choose it.

Synthesis is wack.  I don't understand it at all.  Why would you want to discontinue the organic gene pool?  why would you decide to change everyone into a synthetic/organic hybrid?  And why would you want to destroy what gives us life; what you wanted to protect the whole time?  That's just utter craziness to me.  I know that if I were suddenly turned into a synthetic/organic hybrid, I would be so. upset.  I don't see how that preserves humanity or life.  It destroys what makes us unique and special, it destroys life as we know it.

I personally don't see the appeal in this option.

[Podge 90]

BDelacroix wrote...

People keep saying that Destroy ending ends with genocide. I say no.

Imagine this scenario. I am an orange farmer. I want to corner the market on fruit. All I have to do is tell people that eating apples will kill you. My saying it doesn't make it so.

Are you suggesting that the very being that created the Reapers, the very being that controls the Reapers, would lie to us in attempt to prevent the destruction of the very thing that provides it with a purpose, the very thing that provides meaning to it's own existance?!

Sir, get out of here with your outlandish ideas!

[Mr_Blue]

As a mostly-renegade, I prefer the control option. Enslaving the Reapers is my personal revenge while still subverting the Reaper threat, keeping the Geth and EDI alive, and ultimately being a hero by being a real guardian of the entire galaxy. Shepard is also alive, so I feel like there's no wasted potential with her. I lived as a hero, died as a hero, and was reborn as an omnipotent hero. I am rebuilding the galaxy while simultaneously giving the Reapers my synthetic middle finger.

Modifié par Mr_Blue, 27 juin 2012 - 03:23 .

[M920CAIN]

Solaxe wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Solaxe wrote...

Destroy ending - genocide + uncertain future

Yeah definitely the best ending >>

Uncertain future ... WITH NO REAPERS!!!!

Game = won. 

What makes you so sure?

Maybe Galaxy will evolve to the point when we create our own Reapers again

Yeah, but if this happens, eventually we will have another Shepard to stop them! so it works both ways. Balance will always find a way in the works.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

I really like EDI

[Bomma72]

Xellith wrote...

Rejection is the best ending. My headcannon proves it.

Shepard told the Harbalyst to go screw himself. He then radio'd joker to inform him that crucible failed and to come get his wounded ass only if he had the time. To which Joker responded "I'll make the time". After picking up Shepard the Normandy and the rest of the fleet retreated.

The war went from bad to worse after the attack on the citadel. Most of the Victory Fleet was wiped out before the retreat was sounded. The greatest fleet ever assembled was just brushed aside. But the effort had made some people realise that defeat was inevitable.

The Normandy and her crew were part of the survivors of the Victory fleet. Shepard was going to be in the Hospital for a while. But there was a lot to do. Garrus having learned from Shepard's example set out to unite the galaxy. Working long and hard he organised people of different races to build massive Ark Ships - akin to Quarian Live ships. These ships then headed out to a handful of planets outside of the Relay Network to hide until the Reapers retreated to dark space.

Liara in the meantime set her time capsule plan into action in case the Ark Project failed.

Over the course of one thousand years, the multicultural civilisation grew. Returning to the Relay Network space in order to expand and recover technologies and resources. A feet was built comprised of ships that would put the destiny ascension to shame. A beacon was found by an expedition to Eden Prime. They contacted Liara T'soni who was well into her Matron years to let her know that some others elsewhere may still be functional.

The location of the Reapers hibernation area was eventually determined after detailed examination of the Citadel systems. After many years of building up strength - The fleet was used to launch an all out assault on the Reapers in dark space where they were obliterated with no resistance.

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Shep Lived with his LI
Every advanced species survived.
The Reapers were defeated.

So yea...

Mine is similar but I like to think that after they
picked up Shepard he lead a war of attrition that gave organics enough time to
do the time capsules right this time and at the end of the next cycle the
reapers were destroyed before they even had time to attack. 



If they had just done some slides for that then I would have been
satisfied.  By the way Shepard died at an old age while fighting the
Reapers. 

[Alexius]

M920CAIN wrote...

Solaxe wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Solaxe wrote...

Destroy ending - genocide + uncertain future

Yeah definitely the best ending >>

Uncertain future ... WITH NO REAPERS!!!!

Game = won. 

What makes you so sure?

Maybe Galaxy will evolve to the point when we create our own Reapers again

Yeah, but if this happens, eventually we will have another Shepard to stop them! so it works both ways. Balance will always find a way in the works.

This.
But I don't think there has to be another Shepard, there just wouldn't be Reapers at all. Why? Well, it's not like we didn't learn anything from the entire war. Now we are aware of this, we can take measures to prevent making the same mistakes again. That doesn't mean we won't create synthetics, but by then we would have some new insight about them we didn't have before.

[HelpingFR]

Agreed.

But, in my opinion, destruction really sucks with the EC. The principal interest of this ending is Shepard alive, but it still don't change !
Control is a bit scarry, witht the Shepard's renegade speech. The better.
Synthesis still be the WTF ending. I am not against happy end, but here, it's really ridiculous.
Give up could have been interesting.But it's a bad end.

[jlocohustler]

Destroy isn't the ending I would choose because all Synthetic life would be eradicated inluding the Geth and EDI. I really liked EDI and Legion, so, I can't think about them being terminated. Also, most of the technology will be destroyed-no more mass relays and such. That means, no more space exploration until someone creates new mass relays and that will take like 10,000s of years.

I would choose either synthetic or control. Synthetic is best IMO because like the Catalyst said "Synthetic is the final Evolution" and I totally agree with that because organics will always need Synthetics pretty much like how we need them today jut in different forms (Gaming consoles and PCs come to mind). So, one day whether you want it or not, there will be more synthetics than organics, so, why not change things right now?

Control is also good because you turn into a Reaper and will watch over the galaxy, so, no more war and "chaos". You'll also help rebuild everything that was destroyed which means that mass relays and most of the technology will be restored.

As far as Shepard-Commander is concerned, I don't think he was supposed to live. Don't you remember the last moments? Dancing with Jack, shooting bottles with Garrus, last sex with romance partner, epic chat with Liara on the Citadel and all the last conversations you've had with members and ex-members of the crew? Shepard-Commander was already anticipating the worst, that is, he was ready to die.

[secretsubscriber]

I like the Control ending because its the spookiest ending.
All the talk of being a guardian and guiding the galaxy could have some negative ramifications.
For how long will civilization want the guidance of "The Shepard?"
The way the Shepard Catalyst speaks, I can see the cycle of culling start over.

[Alexius]

jlocohustler wrote...

As far as Shepard-Commander is concerned, I don't think he was supposed to live. Don't you remember the last moments? Dancing with Jack, shooting bottles with Garrus, last sex with romance partner, epic chat with Liara on the Citadel and all the last conversations you've had with members and ex-members of the crew? Shepard-Commander was already anticipating the worst, that is, he was ready to die.

Sure, but you're never told that Destroy will let you live. As far as Shepard is concerned, he/she doesn't count on it. Yeah, now people can metagame the hell out of it, but many had picked Destroy the first time as well. Thus, Shepard living or dying doesn't really affect their decision and doesn't change the fact that Shepard wasn't hoping to live through any of the options.

[krukow]

I think the majority of the board agrees that destroy is the best ending (because it is).
However, some people are into other things. Some people like the transhumanism stuff. Some people want to be the benevolent (or malevolent) space god.

Me, I just want to kill reapers and free the galaxy to it's own fate for the first time in a long time. If I get to go home to Ash, so much the better.

[Yakko77]

Eterna5 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

Synthsis FTW, we are alive and have a tommorrow because of Shepards sacrafice

Destroy FTW, we are alive and have a tomorrow because Shepard got rid of the threat that we can't beat without a crucible: Reapers.

You also commited genocide and have doomed organics to inevitably destroy themselves.

LOL!  Wait?  You buy into Star Brats "logic"?

[D24O]

I can't bring myself to kill my synthetic allies when there's another option.

[secretsubscriber]

Why does there have to be a BEST ending?

[Warrior Craess]

MissLiya wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

Synthsis FTW, we are alive and have a tommorrow because of Shepards sacrafice

When evolution stops, the end of civilization begins. 

you have a flawed understanding of evelution, and civilization.  first one is not dependant on the other. Second evolution is a process that takes centuries or longer to make adjustments, Civilizations come and go sometimes in decades, and other times a bit longer. 

Civilization will be just fine in synthesis. 

[Luviagelita]

I think some people value the Geth and EDI too high.
I feel sorry for them, but they're not worth to pick anything but Destroy: replace the main enemy to become an overlord, or (OMFG) merge with the Reapers.
In Destroy everyone have their own future. They can build it by themselves as it has to be.

[nitefyre410]

 Eternal.  Infinite. Immortal. The man I was used these words but only now do I truly understand
them. And only now do I understand the full extent of his sacrifice. Through is death I was created. Through my birth his thoughts were freed.   They guide me now, give me reason, direction. Just as he gave direction to those who followed him, the ones that helped him achieve his purpose, now my purpose. 
To give the many hope for a future. To ensure all have a voice in their future. The man I was knew he could only  achieve this by becoming something greater. There is power in control, there is wisdom in harnessing the strengths of your enemy. I  will rebuild what the many have lost. I will create a future with limitless possibilities. I will protect and sustain. I will act as guardian for the many. And throughout it all, I will never forget. I will remember the ones  who sacrificed themselves so that the many could surive.” 

 

Basically  with Control instead of forcing  life evolve  Shepard forces the Catalyst to evolve by taking his will and over writing the old. Essentially it’s kinda like synthesis without being galaxy wide. Shepard and the Catalyst merge to make a new Catalyst with a new directive and purpose.   

Yeah so  Control is the best ending  for me. It the only the sits the best with me especailly the Paragon Control. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 27 juin 2012 - 03:57 .

[Warrior Craess]

secretsubscriber wrote...

I like the Control ending because its the spookiest ending.
All the talk of being a guardian and guiding the galaxy could have some negative ramifications.
For how long will civilization want the guidance of "The Shepard?"
The way the Shepard Catalyst speaks, I can see the cycle of culling start over.

I can't.  First it would require that shepard-catalyst forget all that it's been through to get to where it is now. It would need to forget Mordins small pictures/large picture method. It would have to forget the entire Reaper war. And it would have to agree that culling organics is a better method of protection than removing whomever is threatening the galactic whole. 

None of which I can ever see any avatar of shepard doing. 

[Welsh Inferno]

There is no "best" ending. They were all portrayed as "good" endings, its just a difference of opinion on which way you think is best for the galaxy in the long run.


IMO Whether you consider it right or wrong and ignoring all the scientific impossibilities(space magic) surrounding it. Synthesis is the only ending where LIFE as a WHOLE progresses. Destroy and Control scream stagnation. Both of those will go around in a circle, a new cycle, until some civilization reaches this point again.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 27 juin 2012 - 04:00 .

[D58]

nitefyre410 wrote...

 Eternal.  Infinite. Immortal. The man I was used these words but only now do I truly understand
them. And only now do I understand the full extent of his sacrifice. Through is death I was created. Through my birth his thoughts were freed.   They guide me now, give me reason, direction. Just as he gave direction to those who followed him, the ones that helped him achieve his purpose, now my purpose. 
To give the many hope for a future. To ensure all have a voice in their future. The man I was knew he could only  achieve this by becoming something greater. There is power in control, there is wisdom in harnessing the strengths of your enemy. I  will rebuild what the many have lost. I will create a future with limitless possibilities. I will protect and sustain. I will act as guardian for the many. And throughout it all, I will never forget. I will remember the ones  who sacrificed themselves so that the many could surive.” 

 

Basically  with Control instead of forcing  life evolve  Shepard forces the Catalyst to evolve by taking his will and over writing the old. Essentially it’s kinda like synthesis without being galaxy wide. Shepard and the Catalyst merge to make a new Catalyst with a new directive and purpose.   

Yeah so  Control is the best ending  for me. It the only the sits the best with me especailly the Paragon Control. 

The whole vibe of it seems wrong and far from paragon,the music ,shepards voice it seems bad not good

[D24O]

Luviagelita wrote...

I think some people value the Geth and EDI too high.
I feel sorry for them, but they're not worth to pick anything but Destroy: replace the main enemy to become an overlord, or (OMFG) merge with the Reapers.
In Destroy everyone have their own future. They can build it by themselves as it has to be.

That was the whole point of Paragon C. Shep's speech.

Modifié par D24O, 27 juin 2012 - 04:09 .

[Dusen]

Norman250 wrote...

I refuse to pick Destroy on the grounds that I believe the Geth have earned a place in the universe. And if I'm just going to blow them up anyway, why even include the Rannoch act?

This is my point exactly. . . this entire part of the game invalidates the catalysts circular logic and frankly was probably the cause of most people's frustrations when dealing with the starbrat. We in the current cycle have set a precedent that organics and synthetics can live in harmony yet Bioware decided to ultimately ignore this entire plot thread for the sake of forcing their last-minute philosophical garbage down our throats whether we liked it or not.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Discounting the fact that the overall ending of ME3 is still whack as hell:

Destroy is a great ending, if you have no Geth. But EDI dies too. The ME Universe remains mostly intact. Survivors get to continue along their own free wills.

Control is great b/c everything goes back to normal, minus the Reapers' cycle. IE: Shepard becomes galactic tyrant, but he is still a better tyrant than the Starbrat.

Synthesis is great because everybody moves forward into technological singualrity... kinda campy, but everyone's basically a Reaper now, but nothing's left to reap, so they stop... reaping.

Refusal is great because BW's letting you use your headcanon, whatever it happens to be. Eg: the IT is permitted under the Refusal ending.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 27 juin 2012 - 04:18 .