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[Carlthestrange]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Not really. They told us that there would be no new content or endings. They basically lied to us. Again. So, they lie to us about the Refusal ending, yet they've got their hearts set on not giving us a reunion scene even in DLC that people would actually pay for. This just doesn't make any sense and it irritates some of your fanbase.

I'd rather they lie and add a little more than lie and take half of what they promise away.

[Obvakhi]

To make room for crappy fan fiction.

[Carlthestrange]

Obvakhi wrote...

To make room for crappy fan fiction.

So long as we don't end up with the Mass Effect version of "Fifty Shades of Grey", i'm cool.

[Darman]

I ask this question in every thread I can. Exactly my point.

First Reunion, then a nice Epilouge with LI. and Voila, the game would have been rescued, Fans pleased (well at least I'd be).

Worst is that they actually twittered there would be a Reunion.... Now I have to make my own headcanon for this. I mean, it is possible and would likely happen. But they really should have shown it.
It wouldn't even be cheezy. It just feels like this is missing in the EC.

Modifié par Darman, 27 juin 2012 - 10:20 .

[that guy2012]

I have no idea why the left the breath scene alone and didn't do a LI reunion or maybe a five years later thing, hell I would have been happy with a slide popping up after the credits showing Shepard and Tali on Rannoch. I am very surprised that they handled "Spepard survival the way the did". Maybe if the out cry is loud enough they might patch in a slide. However due to them leaving Shep's breath scene unextended I don't feel a great need to replay this game over again.

Modifié par that guy2012, 27 juin 2012 - 10:22 .

[dublin omega 223]

CR121691 wrote...

Because it is too cheezy man. I like it this way.

Theres nothing wrong with cheezy. I ending with Shepard reuniting with his friends and LI is needed in my opinion as alot of fans want that option.

[N172]

CR121691 wrote...

Because it is too cheezy man. I like it this way.

Countless People who lost loved ones getting along with the reapers, the actual murderers, is ok but something (it might even be just a textbox) that says "Shepard survived and reunited with his crew" is too cheezy?

EDIT: Eh, there is the possibility that Shepards LI does not actually put his name on the wall, why didnt i get that with 13K EMS?

Modifié par N172, 27 juin 2012 - 10:29 .

[MadRabbit999]

o Ventus wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

I got an extra scene with LI before going into the beam, it was enough.

Being able to tell Tali "I love you" last time is all I needed since Shepard never says it before that point.

So what about the couple thousand people who didnt't romance the VS or Tali or Garrus?

What's your point?

I am saying, before it was like.. so... yeah, we'll go to the end together... then *Turns around* Hey... where did she go?!

At least now you get to say a proper final goodbye, and the lack of reunion is less bitter and needed.

I am not sure how do other LI interest react to that scene, but  I am sure it is just as heartbreaking (In a good way).

If you did not bring your LI interest on the last jump, then.. tough, reload, and do it again. If your LI cannot be brought along then, sorry about that, but ME never kept consistent with the ammount of content it gave you depending on your LI, some you got a lot and other almsot nothing, it was always like this .

Honestly, no need for any purple, grey or blue babies, Shepard lived as a legend, and died as one, knowing this this is compensation enough for me at least.

A reunion would have been nice, but as I mentoned with my poitns above,  I can live without it, happy endings are overrated

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 27 juin 2012 - 10:24 .

[element eater]

i feel your pain op i realy do while EC was pretty good on the whole this realy hurt me

[celsius009]

Y'know I get it's their project, they can end it however they wanna end it. What bothers me was how everything was just so half-hearted. Lazy. The Destroy option is probably the "happiest" one for people who wanted a LI reunion, and it's heavily implied by the breath and the LI not putting your name on the wall (sometimes starting to smile before the scene cuts away) they meet up again, but what I don't understand is WHY this wasn't added? WHY leave it up in the air if that's what they'd intended?

And contrary to whoever said BW hates sappy endings, they've never once done a sad ending before. Evil endings, heroic endings, funny endings, but always good endings, with ACTUAL closure not this foot-dragging "Fiiiinnnne, we'll draw you guys some pictures." nonsense we got. Would it have been so difficult to give a portion of your fanbase a reason to play the game again?

It just seems like it'd have been so effortless to draw a picture of them hugging after the credits or something. Cut out the picture of Jacob leaning on a desk and add that instead -- no one gives a **** about him lol. Other than sheer laziness I don't get why something so simple wasn't added.

[DazenCobalt17]

N172 wrote...

CR121691 wrote...

Because it is too cheezy man. I like it this way.

Countless People who lost loved ones getting along with the reapers, the actual murderers, is ok but something (it might even be just a textbox) that says "Shepard survived and reunited with his crew" is too cheezy?

yeah sorry but if someone has been spending months trying to kill me and then they suddenly try to help me. uh my instinct is still gonna be to fight. This is why I do not like synthesis or control. Destroy all the way . it makes the most sense.

[MidnightRaith]

Carlthestrange wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...

Not really. They told us that there would be no new content or endings. They basically lied to us. Again. So, they lie to us about the Refusal ending, yet they've got their hearts set on not giving us a reunion scene even in DLC that people would actually pay for. This just doesn't make any sense and it irritates some of your fanbase.

I'd rather they lie and add a little more than lie and take half of what they promise away.

And they couldn't do that while adding even a slide of a reunion? Look, I'm not begrudging the Refusal ending for the people that enjoy it. My question is, why is Bioware going to go back on their word, but not give other fans what they want? I've seen dozens of posts where users claim that all would be forgiven if they included a reunion scene. I'm not one to simply forgive that quickly, but others would. Why not include it and get some of your fans back while you're at it? It just doesn't make sense to me.


EDIT: Some more thoughts. This isn't like IT, or completely rewriting your endings, or adding new ones (which they did). Bioware can keep their oh so special "artistic integrity" while adding a reunion. So, what's the issue here?

Modifié par MidnightRaith, 27 juin 2012 - 10:35 .

[MadRabbit999]

celsius009 wrote...

Y'know I get it's their project, they can end it however they wanna end it. What bothers me was how everything was just so half-hearted. Lazy. The Destroy option is probably the "happiest" one for people who wanted a LI reunion, and it's heavily implied by the breath and the LI not putting your name on the wall (sometimes starting to smile before the scene cuts away) they meet up again, but what I don't understand is WHY this wasn't added? WHY leave it up in the air if that's what they'd intended?

And contrary to whoever said BW hates sappy endings, they've never once done a sad ending before. Evil endings, heroic endings, funny endings, but always good endings, with ACTUAL closure not this foot-dragging "Fiiiinnnne, we'll draw you guys some pictures." nonsense we got. Would it have been so difficult to give a portion of your fanbase a reason to play the game again?

It just seems like it'd have been so effortless to draw a picture of them hugging after the credits or something. Cut out the picture of Jacob leaning on a desk and add that instead -- no one gives a **** about him lol. Other than sheer laziness I don't get why something so simple wasn't added.

You are entitled to your opinions, but you should not decide what is best for all of us, or judge the hard work of others as "lazy" just because you didn't get your cookie. They did not jsut add artworks, they added TONS of cut scenes, recorded audio, and dialogue changes, starting prior to the beam jump, all the way to the ending for FREE, so you have no rights to call them lazy.

Also people DO like Jacob, and again you are entiteld to your opinions, but do not tell BS like "nobody does".

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 27 juin 2012 - 10:35 .

[thisisme8]

I almost felt that way, then I went and hung out with my real girlfriend and felt better.

[Fireblader70]

Well, if you get the ending where Shepard lives, and the Normandy takes off from the planet, and eventually the Citadel is going to be rebuilt, then I think it's likely there will be a reunion. Why do it off-screen? Because you're supposed to imagine what happens next, and how they get back together is entirely how you want it to be.

[MidnightRaith]

Fireblader70 wrote...

Well, if you get the ending where Shepard lives, and the Normandy takes off from the planet, and eventually the Citadel is going to be rebuilt, then I think it's likely there will be a reunion. Why do it off-screen? Because you're supposed to imagine what happens next, and how they get back together is entirely how you want it to be.

So many things can be done off screen so that way you can imagine them like you want. Why have the LI go to Shepard's room and have a conversation before the love scene in ME1? You could have just shown the LI coming into the room, then cut to black and we could have imagined it like we wanted to. However, Bioware wrote that scene anyway, and people still reimagine it. Headcanoning it is not the issue here. I want to see how Bioware would have written it, I want it confirmed that Shepard lives to see the crew again. I can headcanon all I want in either situation, but to me, actually getting the Bioware made content is still better.

[crimzontearz]

it's just a contemptuous **** you to the fans, you know how artists are

[JayPlays]

I was upset that there was no reunion, I like the cheesy endings

But, you know, artistic integrity and all that bs!

[Fireblader70]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Fireblader70 wrote...

Well, if you get the ending where Shepard lives, and the Normandy takes off from the planet, and eventually the Citadel is going to be rebuilt, then I think it's likely there will be a reunion. Why do it off-screen? Because you're supposed to imagine what happens next, and how they get back together is entirely how you want it to be.

So many things can be done off screen so that way you can imagine them like you want. Why have the LI go to Shepard's room and have a conversation before the love scene in ME1? You could have just shown the LI coming into the room, then cut to black and we could have imagined it like we wanted to. However, Bioware wrote that scene anyway, and people still reimagine it. Headcanoning it is not the issue here. I want to see how Bioware would have written it, I want it confirmed that Shepard lives to see the crew again. I can headcanon all I want in either situation, but to me, actually getting the Bioware made content is still better.

Fair enough. But I'm not about to hate on the new, vastly improved endings just because Shepard didn't get a hug on-screen.

[Jonathan Sud]

You take what you can get.

[The Not So Illusive Man]

Honestly, in my opinion, a reunion would have been pointless. You've only just said goodbye to your love interest a short while before you enter the citadel and the only thing that reuniting with them again would allow is for a "We did it!" sort of thing. Why do we need that? It detracts away from the sacrifices you have to make at the end and adds nothing to the story, unless you wanted a weird montage of them growing old together.

[N172]

Now after playing the ending another time i got that Liara does not put Shepards Name on the wall scene (do not know why she put it on the wall the first time, did it exactly the same way both times), so yeah it actually says that Shepard survived and will reunite.

So its not what i hoped for, but ME3 is now replayable.

[TullyAckland]

 I said this elsewhere but I'll crosspost and put it here also: 

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

[crimzontearz]

TullyAckland wrote... I said this elsewhere but I'll crosspost and put it here also: One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall. You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

and the reunion could not be explicit because?

[JeosDinas]

Because it would have been redundant.