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[NRieh]

whos to say they arn't a few days/months away from earth?

Why would they? Oh, I got it, they chanced to FTL directly onto totally unknown, but very-very close habitable planet...It's good to have one right when you need to crashland, isn't it?

[Gedgehog]

I have to agree with Tully Ackland - the fact that in Destroy, Shepard survives and the love interest doesn't place his death plaque on the wall, implies that they can have a reunion. There is wisdom is not showing absolutely EVERYTHING possible. I have to say that personally, at least for me, the Extended Cut was a perfect addition to the end.

[Jadebaby]

christrek1982 wrote...

I would of been more than happy with a pic or slide that just showed shepard and Liara together in the end.

Honestly, I would be content with this too... I understand how it'd be hard for them to do it with all the different LI's and how varied the scenes would have to be. So for theme to make it a slide show would be more simple for them, while pleasing a lot of people and adding more replay value. I really want to keep the faith that they will go that last step.

[celsius009]

TullyAckland wrote...

 I said this elsewhere but I'll crosspost and put it here also: 

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

Uh yeah not to call you guys lazy but if this was your super big plan all along, why didn't you just add a scene showing that. Or hell throw in a picture of the LI and Shepard hugging, get rid of that shot of Jacob leaning on a desk no one even knows who that guy is.

If this was supposed to be so obvious and conclusive I fail to see how anyone couldn't have said "Y'know what... Let's just give some actual closure here. If this is what we're gonna say, let's say it."

An eruption of threads being pissed over this one matter could have been easily foreseen and stopped with a picture. Literally a picture. I know you wouldn't have been able to resuse that one picture in each ending and I'm sure that would have been such a drag but I simply can't fathom no one thinking of this. I'm assuming the same team that wrote the other 99% of the game didn't swap jobs with the janitors for the ending so I know you're better than this.

Guys, just because he has a BW tag under his name doesn't mean treat him like a prince. Show him the respect and courtesy you show every other poster, and question what he says don't act like it's scripture.

[o Ventus]

Gedgehog wrote...

I have to agree with Tully Ackland - the fact that in Destroy, Shepard survives and the love interest doesn't place his death plaque on the wall, implies that they can have a reunion. There is wisdom is not showing absolutely EVERYTHING possible. I have to say that personally, at least for me, the Extended Cut was a perfect addition to the end.

Show, don't tell.

Except here they did neither.

And my romance is Miranda, so I got diddly dick for the memorial scene.

[Thulnuz]

I have to say I'm very thankful that BioWare was willing to improve the ending. I'm also glad to say, that they get the job done.
So about the people who want a reunion with your LI: I think this would have ruined the whole game. First I saw the reapers invade earth I was sure, that there can't be a happy ending for Shepard. And honestly I'm bit sick of all this "Hollywood happy ending"-crap. It's always the same Hero save the World. World is thankful. Hero gets the girl. So I'm pleased how it is now.

[AlexMBrennan]

Because Bioware doesn't want to make the game customers want to play (listen to the podcast, Casey Hudson does actually say that)

[Jadebaby]

Thulnuz wrote...

I have to say I'm very thankful that BioWare was willing to improve the ending. I'm also glad to say, that they get the job done.
So about the people who want a reunion with your LI: I think this would have ruined the whole game. First I saw the reapers invade earth I was sure, that there can't be a happy ending for Shepard. And honestly I'm bit sick of all this "Hollywood happy ending"-crap. It's always the same Hero save the World. World is thankful. Hero gets the girl. So I'm pleased how it is now.

It's not hollywood and doesn't have to be cliched. All it would have taken was a single picture. But if you already see happy endings that way then you had a predisposition towards not liking it anyway. Move along.

[Jadebaby]

o Ventus wrote...

Gedgehog wrote...

I have to agree with Tully Ackland - the fact that in Destroy, Shepard survives and the love interest doesn't place his death plaque on the wall, implies that they can have a reunion. There is wisdom is not showing absolutely EVERYTHING possible. I have to say that personally, at least for me, the Extended Cut was a perfect addition to the end.

Show, don't tell.

Except here they did neither.

And my romance is Miranda, so I got diddly dick for the memorial scene.

And you wouldn't have gotten much on the conduit run either right?

[Jadebaby]

celsius009 wrote...

Uh yeah not to call you guys lazy but if this was your super big plan all along, why didn't you just add a scene showing that. Or hell throw in a picture of the LI and Shepard hugging, get rid of that shot of Jacob leaning on a desk no one even knows who that guy is.

If this was supposed to be so obvious and conclusive I fail to see how anyone couldn't have said "Y'know what... Let's just give some actual closure here. If this is what we're gonna say, let's say it."

An eruption of threads being pissed over this one matter could have been easily foreseen and stopped with a picture. Literally a picture. I know you wouldn't have been able to resuse that one picture in each ending and I'm sure that would have been such a drag but I simply can't fathom no one thinking of this. I'm assuming the same team that wrote the other 99% of the game didn't swap jobs with the janitors for the ending so I know you're better than this.

Guys, just because he has a BW tag under his name doesn't mean treat him like a prince. Show him the respect and courtesy you show every other poster, and question what he says don't act like it's scripture.

winning

[priestess of blood]

TullyAckland wrote...

• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

This part caught my attention in particular

But come on guys, you couldn't of thrown in something alittle more concrete then the breath scene.

Modifié par priestess of blood, 27 juin 2012 - 02:16 .

[NRieh]

in case someone did not notice (yet), this version of Normand Run helps any kind of reunion even less then previous one. Previous was (at least) so incredibly senseless that most just said "ok it never happened". Now we still know tah LI was sent hell knows where, but at least now we know why(answer is simple - because BW needed them to be sent hell knows where) and we may speculate not only about how did they land where they landed (and where it is), but also about how will they fly out of there. And also - how do they know Anderson's dead and Shepard - probably not? Hope springs eternal? 

Modifié par Nrieh, 27 juin 2012 - 02:06 .

[CronoDragoon]

A reunion scene would have been nice, but playing through from Cerberus base shows you that you get a LOT of time with your LI in the final section with your game. The couple-hours scene before the base, taking your LI along in the base when Shepard reads the logs about himself, saying goodbye during Priority: Earth, saying goodbye AGAIN if you take them on the beam run, seeing them in a flashback as you do your ending, the memorial scene where they put your name on the wall (OR NOT RITE)... all in all that in combination with the obvious eventuality of a reunion is enough for me.

Of course, if you didn't romance a squadmate...I feel for ya.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 27 juin 2012 - 02:15 .

[Ryuukishi]

Nrieh wrote...

in case someone did not notice (yet), this version of Normand Run helps any kind of reunion even less then previous one. Previous was (at least) so incredibly senseless that most just said "ok it never happened". Now we still know tah LI was sent hell knows where, but at least now we know why(answer is simple - because BW needed them to be sent hell knows where) and we may speculate not only about how did they land where they landed (and where it is), but also about how will they fly out of there. And also - how do they know Anderson's dead and Shepard - probably not? Hope springs eternal? 

This is actually one advantage of having Jack as an LI... No additional scenes, but she's right there on Earth already, so no need to try to wrap a headcanon discovery/reunion scene around the jungle planet situation.

[Raging_Pulse]

o Ventus wrote...

Show, don't tell.

Except here they did neither.

And my romance is Miranda, so I got diddly dick for the memorial scene.

Haven't had the chance to play through EC myself yet (watched most of it on YouTube). If you romanced Miranda, who's standing with a Shepard's name in front of memorial wall. I'm guessing Liara? Does she actually puts the name on, or hesitates like if she was a LI (in destroy ending of course)?

Modifié par Domecoming, 27 juin 2012 - 02:20 .

[Aether McLoud]

Nrieh wrote...

in case someone did not notice (yet), this version of Normand Run helps any kind of reunion even less then previous one. Previous was (at least) so incredibly senseless that most just said "ok it never happened". Now we still know tah LI was sent hell knows where, but at least now we know why(answer is simple - because BW needed them to be sent hell knows where) and we may speculate not only about how did they land where they landed (and where it is), but also about how will they fly out of there. And also - how do they know Anderson's dead and Shepard - probably not? Hope springs eternal? 

Actually the Normandy used it's own FTL drive instead of the Mass Relay to jump away from earth, meaning the are either in or very close to the Sol system, meaning a reunion is very much possible because they aren't far away and don't need the Mass Relays to get back to earth.

[Melra]

Domecoming wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Show, don't tell.

Except here they did neither.

And my romance is Miranda, so I got diddly dick for the memorial scene.

Haven't had the chance to play through EC myself yet (watched most of it on YouTube). If you romanced Miranda, who's standing with a Shepard's name in front of memorial wall. I'm guessing Liara? Does she actually puts it on or hesitates like if she was a LI?

It's Liara. I romanced Miranda and Liara hesitated at the last moment and the Normandy took off. You don't really miss out that much, unless you go through the other LIs and endings, which I have no reason to, so I like the ending.

[Raging_Pulse]

Melrache wrote...

It's Liara. I romanced Miranda and Liara hesitated at the last moment and the Normandy took off. You don't really miss out that much, unless you go through the other LIs and endings, which I have no reason to, so I like the ending.

Thank you.

[BadExamp1e]

Not gonna lie, I was disappointed at first that I never got a reunion scene. I'm guessing if players had got that with destroy, it would have made the other endings look like utter crap in comparison.

Now though, I can live with just the memorial scene. It was bittersweet seeing Ash hold Shepard's plaque like that. All in all, I'm happy.

[ppeters77]

Carlthestrange wrote...

They delivered what they promised. Not what you asked for.

Sorry.

If they had delivered what they promised, then this forum had around 1 million posts less....

(to remind you: 16 vastly different endings, no A,B,C, ending, rachni are important, closure, reflection of your actions throughout the series, etc.)

[ScooterPie88]

TullyAckland wrote...

 I said this elsewhere but I'll crosspost and put it here also: 

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

Why not just reunite them then and quit jerking us around?

[ElementL09]

TullyAckland wrote...

 I said this elsewhere but I'll crosspost and put it here also: 

One of the goals for the Extended Cut, as part of addressing player feedback, was to provide more time with the love interest, and more opportunity for players to say goodbye to them and provide additional moments of connection between them. We did this in several ways:

• Shepard can now actually say goodbye to the love interest when they are split up at the conduit run.
• When Shepard sees flashbacks of important characters during the final decision, the flashbacks are now variable based on your playthrough – so your love interest can appear as one of the flashbacks, providing another moment of reflection between Shepard and that character.
• A memorial scene was added, partly to show a close bond between Shepard and the love interest. The scene is variable, and if Shepard has a love interest in a given playthrough, it will be that character who places Shepard’s name on the memorial wall.
• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

Doesn't shepard say goodbye to any squadmate you took with you, like I didn't take my Love interest, but I took Garrus and Javik and I had to say goodbye to Javik.  Is there a substantial or subtle difference?

[BooBoo_swe]

I get my reunion with everyone at the meeting at the FOB. Enough for me. I just throw up in my mouth when i see starchild. So the EC was a no go. Starchild still there and the otions, just fancy but stupud explanations, a everknowing AI fumbling in the dark and 3 ridicilous choices and 1 added obvious choice to end this conflict. I wont bother, and IF (never will) i did, it would be defiance and everyone dies. A Tragic atristic flop deserves nothing else by the annihilation of the cycle.

[MattFini]

Domecoming wrote...

Melrache wrote...

It's Liara. I romanced Miranda and Liara hesitated at the last moment and the Normandy took off. You don't really miss out that much, unless you go through the other LIs and endings, which I have no reason to, so I like the ending.

Thank you.

I romanced Jack, and for me it was Garrus hesitating with the nameplate.  Which I was cool with, 'cause Garrus is a good bro like that.