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[Samuel_Valkyrie]

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

EDIT: Just to make this clear, when I say "New DLC", I mean "New DLC that gives you a new adventure, a new planet to visit, a new mission, etc." And during that mission, you get new information on the Reapers. And if you buy all the new DLC, so all the new missions, you get all the information necessary to get this Fifth Ending I'm speaking about. So, not a DLC consisting entire out of a new ending, but various mission DLC that, all together, create one single new ending.

Modifié par Samuel_Valkyrie, 28 juin 2012 - 10:37 .

[clarkusdarkus]

Well that particular DLC would interest me as it go's back to ME1 and at least makes the reapers interesting again. I'd purchase it but only based on fan reviews.

[KDBANKS]

I'd probably hate that. I don't want to buy three DLCs for one ending.

[Firmijn]

I would buy if the gameplay and story content of the particular DLC is worth it. I dont need a fifth ending as long as I have destroy and reject.

[Sweawm]

Hopefully, Leviathan does more than be a War Asset. Hopefully, takes down Harbinger

[Arcataye]

Sweawm wrote...

Hopefully, Leviathan does more than be a War Asset. Hopefully, takes down Harbinger

But I love those mostly meaningless numbers that we never actually see do anything.

Modifié par Arcataye, 27 juin 2012 - 10:22 .

[Kub666]

I'm ok with further changes to endings, but Bioware said this is final so I would not count on it.

Anyways - sign me up for a Leviathan DLC, sounds great!

[Arcataye]

Bfler wrote...

A Reaper traitor would nullify the Control ending, because it would show that you can't control them and there is a permanent danger if they are alive.

[crimzontearz]

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

[iwillkillfortali]

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

RIGHT F*CKING ON MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZackG312]

something like an evolving story I like the sound of that, i would buy them

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Arcataye wrote...

Bfler wrote...

A Reaper traitor would nullify the Control ending, because it would show that you can't control them and there is a permanent danger if they are alive.

You (or Bffer) have a point there. However, it seems that Murmer Leviathan is the Reaper created from the creators of the Catalyst. Suppose the, being the 'parents' of the Catalyst, are subject to an oudipal concern of the Catalyst, being that the Catalyst could not make them fully dependant on him. Being Deus Ex Machina Shepard in the Control Ending alleviates that problem, with you not actually considering them a parent figure. Since, you know, you're a human, not an A.I. construct.

TL;DR: Leviathan is Star Child's daddy, so it is the only Reaper Star Child can't control. You're Shepard, nobody's your daddy, so you CAN control them.

[umadcommander]

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 

[crimzontearz]

umadcommander wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

 

precisely

[Peranor]

 
Well. Bioware have said that they will not be releasing any post-ending DLC. But I guess adding another ending technically doesn't count as post-ending
But they will never release more endings as DLC. It doesn't make sense (on the other hand not many of their recent decisions does...)
No, I think that the DLC hinted at will just be a mid-game dlc that, in the end, just adds to your EMS numbers.

Modifié par anorling, 27 juin 2012 - 11:04 .

[Marta Rio II]

War assets, who cares anymore? Not that I'm complaining that the EMS problem got "fixed" for the extended cut, but fixing it renders any future addition of war assets moot.

I'd love to see the upcoming single player DLCs add some additional content to the endings (maybe the reject option, as we might be able to win conventionally with some Reaper creators/traitors on our side). It'd give many people incentive to buy the darn DLC.

Modifié par Marta Rio II, 27 juin 2012 - 11:04 .

[nupfi]

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

anorling wrote...




 
Well. Bioware have said that they will not be releasing any post-ending DLC. But I guess adding another ending technically doesn't count as post-ending
But they will never release more endings as DLC. It doesn't make sense (on the other hand not many of their recent decisions does...)
No, I think that the DLC hinted at will just be a mid-game dlc that, in the end, just adds to your EMS numbers.

Not quite an answer to my question. What I asked was "if buying one or more DLC would result into a new ending, what would your opinion be on that?" Your answer: "the DLC will probably be mid-game content". That me eventually be true, but it is not an answer to my question. So, how would you feel if the scenario I sketched would come true, regardless of whether it is likely, or even possible?

[ghost9191]

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

^this

[Applepie_Svk]

Bfler wrote...

A Reaper traitor would nullify the Control ending, because it would show that you can't control them and there is a permanent danger if they are alive.

It was said that first reaper was created by force from Creators of Catalyst, he said that first reaper didn´t approved...
So if Leviathan is firstborn Reaper and he went rogue, not because he was just crazy - but because he was unique and he hates Catalyst´s sick solution so much that he tried to fight them back. Catalyst also mentioned that they tried few times cooperate with organics but it didn´t work - after first cycle with sacrifice of first species he gave similiar 2 decisions to these Creators, they were in fact forced: You will die / Or you will be uplifted and eternal.
In this part I think that Catalyst just lying, by my opinion he never had intention in cooperation with organics - and with time he start loosing influence over his firstborn Reaper. When he knew that he has army strong enough to defeat Leviathan he just turn against him.

Leviathan of Dis was founded by Batarians like a shipwreck after battle long ago and these sciencist bring it back to life - yes it was hostile but they didn´t knew his real reasons why ? They tried to use him as an advantage for themself and when they failed it turns against them.

And I still have little sparkle of hope that they created EC-refusal ending with purpose ... who knows maybe just for the chance as this one....

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 27 juin 2012 - 11:34 .

[ghost9191]

well if they make it so you can win conventionally maybe, i mean choosing reject kinda screws everyone in the current cycle so why pick it when you can choose 3 other crap options to save it. i chose destroy btw =)

But anyways i did choose the 4th option thinking i could convince the catalyst , was kinda surprised out when i heard harbinger say so be it. but all that said if there is a dlc that makes it possible to win conventionally then yes i will buy it, i will buy any dlc actually.

also they wouldn't have to go back on their word about post end dlc because it would take place during the ending. and i thought 1,9 gigs was a bit much for what we got but just me

[ghost9191]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Bfler wrote...

A Reaper traitor would nullify the Control ending, because it would show that you can't control them and there is a permanent danger if they are alive.

It was said that first reaper was created by force from Creators of Catalyst, he said that first reaper didn´t approved...
So if Leviathan is firstborn Reaper and he went rogue, not because he was just crazy - but because he was unique and he hates Catalyst´s sick solution so much that he tried to fight them back. Catalyst also mentioned that they tried few times cooperate with organics but it didn´t work - after first cycle with sacrifice of first species he gave similiar 2 decisions to these Creators, they were in fact forced: You will die / Or you will be uplifted and eternal.
In this part I think that Catalyst just lying, by my opinion he never had intention in cooperation with organics - and with time he start loosing influence over his firstborn Reaper. When he knew that he has army strong enough to defeat Leviathan he just turn against him.

Leviathan of Dis was founded by Batarians like a shipwreck after battle long ago and these sciencist bring it back to life - yes it was hostile but they didn´t knew his real reasons why ? They tried to use him as an advantage for themself and when they failed it turns against them.

And I still have little sparkle of hope that they created EC-refusal ending with purpose ... who knows maybe just for the chance as this one....

also the catalyst is a ai that was built to fix the whole synthetic vs organic thing, it was programed to think that there will be no peace so it tries to fix a problem that might not be there, as it could see with the geth and quarians if the damn thing just looked up

and by that i mean it is a computer that believes and was programmed to think there is a problemm so i doubt there is a way to convince it otherwise

Modifié par ghost9191, 27 juin 2012 - 11:40 .

[Peranor]

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

anorling wrote...




 
Well. Bioware have said that they will not be releasing any post-ending DLC. But I guess adding another ending technically doesn't count as post-ending
But they will never release more endings as DLC. It doesn't make sense (on the other hand not many of their recent decisions does...)
No, I think that the DLC hinted at will just be a mid-game dlc that, in the end, just adds to your EMS numbers.

Not quite an answer to my question. What I asked was "if buying one or more DLC would result into a new ending, what would your opinion be on that?" Your answer: "the DLC will probably be mid-game content". That me eventually be true, but it is not an answer to my question. So, how would you feel if the scenario I sketched would come true, regardless of whether it is likely, or even possible?

IF the DLC's was changing for example the refusal ending to just making the catalyst ti go "fu*k it, have it your way then you stubborn bastard. Go on and destroy eachother. I don't care anymore" and then pack up his reapers and leave us alone then I would most definitely buy it. Without hesitation. But only if I knew beforehand what the DLC's would change the ending outcomes.

Which is kind of sad, and in the long run I would just be shooting myself in the foot. It would be like telling Bioware to keep making crappy endings because people will pay to get a better one.

Modifié par anorling, 27 juin 2012 - 11:53 .