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revo76 wrote...

3. It may give another ending, for example Control ending but with Leviathan, since it's inside of EC DLC already.


You mean that not Shepard becomes the Reaper god in control but rather Leviathan? 

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Anything that puts Buy and Bioware in the same line is a no no for me, unless they clearly state Hudson was in no way involved in it and reviews are excellent by players and gamersites alike.

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Bfler wrote...

revo76 wrote...

3. It may give another ending, for example Control ending but with Leviathan, since it's inside of EC DLC already.


You mean that not Shepard becomes the Reaper god in control but rather Leviathan? 


Shepard becomes the god of Reapers, however some will rebel agaisnt his or her decisions, and these 'separatist' becomes antagonists of next possible ME installement, under Harbinger's or Leviathan's rule depend DLCs story. 

With that, i think we will see confrontation with Leviathan and Harbinger (old creators of Catalyst) this can be post ending, Leviathan will be Shepard's ship (which i'll explain below) or this will happen before endings and the winner will be Leviathan.

Or Leviathan will accept choices or Shepard and it becomes the ship of Shepard, and Harby will leave from the group (he is also creator of Catalyst, so if he wants to be rogue, he can be rogue)

And also considering Reapers have tech to combine machines and syntetics, Shepard may get a body too. He can be pretty alive in control endings (which is non-sense, but hey considering magical synthesis choice, this is also possible)

Modifié par revo76, 27 juin 2012 - 03:01 .


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Bfler wrote...

revo76 wrote...

3. It may give another ending, for example Control ending but with Leviathan, since it's inside of EC DLC already.


You mean that not Shepard becomes the Reaper god in control but rather Leviathan? 

That would be interesting as well. You take the power away from the Star Child, but instead of taking it yourself, you hand it over to another being you put in charge. Which, in turn, is thematically similar enough to the Leviathan as featured in Thomas Hobbes novel (which I mentioned before).

I like this idea!

It would still be a fifth ending, though, technically. Building on this premise, it would be more than interesting to see, how further DLC might in turn be tied to one of the other endings. Say, an Aria/Omega DLC, that allows for another version of Synthesis, where not Shepard sacrifices himself, to force everyone to become green-eyed zombies, but where Synthesis is an option open to those individuals in the ME universe who choose it, with omega the main hub where people can get the 'upgrade'.

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The statement "Buy DLC for New Ending" is a tad blunt force, but yeah, I'd purchase stacking DLC that filtered into a new component of the end sequence. Considering the ultimate fate of the galaxy has been decided, it makes sense to craft new material that adds fresh curiosity and excitement into what we've already seen, instead of treading over the worn path towards the same endgame.

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Billyg3453 wrote...

If the package in a brief, 12 second, 50 MB reunion video through one of the DLC's, it will gurantee sales.

It's hard to believe they won't consider it, although I doubt they will

They will but it will be like $5 and I would buy it and even though most people say the wouldn't they would

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I wouldn't be surprised.

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Bfler wrote...

A Reaper traitor would nullify the Control ending, because it would show that you can't control them and there is a permanent danger if they are alive.


It was said that first reaper was created by force from Creators of Catalyst, he said that first reaper didn´t approved...
So if Leviathan is firstborn Reaper and he went rogue, not because he was just crazy - but because he was unique and he hates Catalyst´s sick solution so much that he tried to fight them back. Catalyst also mentioned that they tried few times cooperate with organics but it didn´t work - after first cycle with sacrifice of first species he gave similiar 2 decisions to these Creators, they were in fact forced: You will die / Or you will be uplifted and eternal.
In this part I think that Catalyst just lying, by my opinion he never had intention in cooperation with organics - and with time he start loosing influence over his firstborn Reaper. When he knew that he has army strong enough to defeat Leviathan he just turn against him.

Leviathan of Dis was founded by Batarians like a shipwreck after battle long ago and these sciencist bring it back to life - yes it was hostile but they didn´t knew his real reasons why ? They tried to use him as an advantage for themself and when they failed it turns against them.

And I still have little sparkle of hope that they created EC-refusal ending with purpose ... who knows maybe just for the chance as this one....


I think you read that wrong, the Catalyst didn't say that the Reaper disapproves, it said the creator while still organic disapproved of them being turned into the Reapers. Meaning, Catalyst took control and killed everyone, turning them into goo and making his Creators the first Reapers.
Who the hell would approve of genocide and suicide and becoming what is now known as Reapers that is controlled by an AI .

And like many said, having Rogue Reapers would mean that Control option is totally an Lie, because not only does Shepard can't control the reapers, they can go rogue and go wild on the organics whenever they want to.

So if there is ever an Rogue Reaper, then the only true ending is the Destroy ending, because Synthesis is still having the Galaxy at the mercy of the large giant Technologically advanced Reapers that thinks like organics. ( imagine all the Murders and Dictators in Reaper form because they can now think like organics and have all the passions, sadness, fear, arrogance, lust of organic life )

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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

Bfler wrote...

revo76 wrote...

3. It may give another ending, for example Control ending but with Leviathan, since it's inside of EC DLC already.


You mean that not Shepard becomes the Reaper god in control but rather Leviathan?

That would be interesting as well. You take the power away from the Star Child, but instead of taking it yourself, you hand it over to another being you put in charge. Which, in turn, is thematically similar enough to the Leviathan as featured in Thomas Hobbes novel (which I mentioned before).

I like this idea!

It would still be a fifth ending, though, technically. Building on this premise, it would be more than interesting to see, how further DLC might in turn be tied to one of the other endings. Say, an Aria/Omega DLC, that allows for another version of Synthesis, where not Shepard sacrifices himself, to force everyone to become green-eyed zombies, but where Synthesis is an option open to those individuals in the ME universe who choose it, with omega the main hub where people can get the 'upgrade'.


I have to admit, i dont even care Aria and her Omega anymore, after Leviathan DLC. I dont want to get my hopes up but;

a) Shepard hands over his control over Reapers to Leviathan (3rd ending of control) In return, he'll get syntetic body (Reapers can combine organics and syntetics they got this tech) With this, you'll get alive Shep like destory, so both choices will be cannon for ME4. Maybe become right hand of Levy of Reapers ? (dont like option 'a' but well..)

B) Shepard takes over control of Reapers and Leviathan will be his/her ship.

c) I'm expecting Harbinger - Leviathan confrontation in ending, if Harbinger will remain active, it will take anti-shepard'ist Reapers and will return to dark space (Will become antagonists of ME4) or this may happen after endings, with Shepard controlled Leviathan and Harbinger, speaks about the future of galaxy

Modifié par revo76, 27 juin 2012 - 03:08 .


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It would be cool if the with every new DLC, something IMPORTANT (like a certain leviathan) would be added to the war assets, and if you buy all of them there will be a WINNING refusal ending, in which Shepard says: "you know kid.. I think we're going to win anyway without using the catalyst so F*** Y**!!!".

New content would be pointless if it is set before the ending but doesn't do anything to change them. At least that is in my opinion.

Modifié par fade2black.1337, 27 juin 2012 - 03:15 .


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*bump*

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as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure


From your mouth to god's ears.

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if you get Leviathan as a war asset, I can't imagine that the endings won't be altered somehow. YOU'VE GOT A DAMN REAPER!

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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

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[quote]umadcommander wrote...

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure[/quote]

https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 
Totally

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umadcommander wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure


https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 


QFFT!

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Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

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It might affect the rejection ending?
Giving you at least a chance at a conventional victory?

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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Well, now they have, Locutus. <_<

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crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure



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TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


and thats were it fundamentaly falls apart i didnt feel like i got any more closure then i had before ive said in numerous threads and my own that a slide of the LI should have been present at the end of the game this would solve everything

Modifié par element eater, 27 juin 2012 - 04:07 .


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TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Personally I do not see why I should play/buy a single player DLC for the final part of a trilogy, if it does not have influence on the outcome or gives closure the parts of the story which were not handled in the "original" ending.
That's basically the same reason why I dislike prequels.
It just seems pointless to me, or maybe I just got this wrong?

Modifié par riesenwiesel, 27 juin 2012 - 04:12 .


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umadcommander wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure


https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 


This.

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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


Can you contribute anything to the OP?

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"No DLC related to the endings"

So...no DLC AT ALL will involve the endings? Not even impact it? Then, I ask, what would be the goddamn point of DLC?

Modifié par Velocithon, 27 juin 2012 - 04:10 .