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[FS3D]

While bEAware insists on sticking rigidly to their "artistic vision" (ie the breakdown of narrative coherence that is the mess that ended the series - something that isn't fixed by the EC), I will stick to my "capitalistic vision" and keep my wallet firmly in my pocket.

No paid-for DLC for Mass Effect 3. They've killed the game. The EC marginally fixes some of the problems, but not the critical ones, and it's too little, too late. Besides, I don't like being lied to.

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Can you contribute anything to the OP?

You're asking me? Because in that case: No.

The thread was started to discuss how people would react to such a scenario, not whether it will come true or not.  As far as Tully knows, and let's assume he actually does, it won't come true, but that does not mean we cannot continue discussing how people would react to such a scenario, which was the thread's intent.

[Jadebaby]

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
snip*

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Can you contribute anything to the OP?

You're asking me? Because in that case: No.

The thread was started to discuss how people would react to such a scenario, not whether it will come true or not.  As far as Tully knows, and let's assume he actually does, it won't come true, but that does not mean we cannot continue discussing how people would react to such a scenario, which was the thread's intent.

Yea I meant trully. But I meant the presense of the files, not what they may pertain too. I guess you're right in that it isn't the topic of this thread per se..

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
snip*

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Can you contribute anything to the OP?

You're asking me? Because in that case: No.

The thread was started to discuss how people would react to such a scenario, not whether it will come true or not.  As far as Tully knows, and let's assume he actually does, it won't come true, but that does not mean we cannot continue discussing how people would react to such a scenario, which was the thread's intent.

Yea I meant trully. But I meant the presense of the files, not what they may pertain too. I guess you're right in that it isn't the topic of this thread per se..

Oh, in that case, I agree.

Hey, Tully! Say something!

[Trollgunner]

Yeah, new DLC would be good. I picked Refusal first (just because I liked how shep was confronting that brat), and then picked destroy as always. Well, not so good as I expected. Oh, and breath-scene again, sure, game ended. 
P.S Laughed like crazy when saw Synth ending.

Modifié par Trollgunner, 27 juin 2012 - 04:33 .

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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Well, now they have, Locutus. ; 

They have no plans to release further content . . . but if that content is ALREADY in the EC . . .

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Well, with information in the thread on Leviathan, evidence so far suggest that optional conversation with Star Child pertains to the Leviathan. Whether it will have an impact on the endings remains to be seen, but it seems fact that, at the very least, you will be able to talk with the Star Child about them.

[BCMakoto]

Guys, could we please stop to take every little word they say and turn it around 20 times until we actually could have a second meaning to it.

I don't know how you see it, but Bioware says: "We won´t release further ending DLC.", and that means "NO!". Not "It is already in, and actually pre-ending DLC is not an ending DLC, so the possibility...". They say: "Guys, that is the ending, Period.". Sorry, but interpreting too much into words brought us into quite a mess before. Are people so desperate that they try to find ANYTHING that shows us: "There will be more!".

For the question asked in the thread:
I would be interested in seeing the consequence, and of course finding out who the creators were. But I wouldn't buy it for a change in ending alone. Also the content would interest me.

[Argetfalcon]

I feel that would be a good way to get people buy the DLC. If it has a significant effect on the ending. Would still like an ending where Shepard and EDI/Geth both survive

[RussianSpy27]

TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Ok could you then explain where is Shepard waking up? Is he waking up on the Citadel? 

[Ithurael]

Velocithon wrote...

"No DLC related to the endings"

So...no DLC AT ALL will involve the endings? Not even impact it? Then, I ask, what would be the goddamn point of DLC?

To get your $$$

Dollars Money! Cash Money!

[Ithurael]

Though in all honesty I would pay about $5 - $10 for a reunion DLC. I think that would be really nice. We saw the game end and the saga end. Why not a wrap up dlc? I mean, if there is a demand for it why not make it?

[D1ck1e]

I'm not buying anything unless it involves ALOT of Jack, period.

[Zertz]

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

This has been the line for some time before release, during the ending shennanigans, and currently in the immediate aftermath of the EC.  I'm not sure why everyone is scrambling to think this is all some crazy plan to surprise us with ending DLC/post ending DLC.

I suggest a better perspective is that it isn't currently their plan, but perhaps they may change their plans in the future.  I wouldn't count on it either way but it is interesting to think about - perhaps if BioWare was interested this would be a way to increase the variability of the endings.  If I was a dev that would certainly interest me.

[cavs25]

I am not buying anything unless it impacts something in a big way...
Whats the purpose of taking back Omega if you either get the starkids choices shoved down your throat or fail completely.

[Simotech]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Ok could you then explain where is Shepard waking up? Is he waking up on the Citadel? 

Lots of speculation

[TheBigM145]

Just wanted to point something out. As was shown quite well in DA:O, you don't have to have the main character to have good DLC. I quite enjoyed Leliana's song and would quite enjoy playing as Aria taking back Omega with merc squadmates (as long as one of them isn't that Gryll the annoying Vorcha )

[robarcool]

JohnTheJohn wrote...

No more endings guys, like it or not.

[Akaranz]

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Well, no Mass Effect 3 DLC for me then...

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

Actually, after some more careful reading of the text-files, it seems that Harbinger is indeed the first of the actual Reapers, the first of the Created, whereas Leviathan is the last of the actual creators of the Star Child.

[quote]
<data>The Leviathan's created you, didn't they?</data>[/quote]
[quote]
<data>Correct again. It was they who first recognize the conflict that persists between synthetics and organics. It was they who sought the solution.</data>[/quote][quote]
<data>But you turned on the Leviathans. You harvested them.</data>[/quote][quote]
<data>Yes and no. The Reapers are a synthetic representation of the ones who created us.</data> </string>- <string>
<data>And they became the first to be harvested. Though they fought us... it was the only solution.</data>[/quote]
[quote]
<data>The first Reaper. In this cycle, amongst your kind, it is known as Harbinger.</data>[/quote]
[/quote][/list][/list][/list]
http://pastebin.com/R52YGPek

So, this DLC if true, will have an impact on the ending, but only in that it will have a few extra lines of conversation with the Star Child. I see no evidence of it augmenting or changing any of the endings, nor offering a new one.

Or, rather, I see some hints of there being a possibility of it, but nothing concrete, and and off of it sublimated within the interlocking links and strings of the programming. So, I can't be sure it's nothing more than wishful thinking. As I said, nothing concrete.

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

*bump*

[Dusen]

Marta Rio II wrote...

War assets, who cares anymore? Not that I'm complaining that the EMS problem got "fixed" for the extended cut, but fixing it renders any future addition of war assets moot.

I'd love to see the upcoming single player DLCs add some additional content to the endings (maybe the reject option, as we might be able to win conventionally with some Reaper creators/traitors on our side). It'd give many people incentive to buy the darn DLC.

That would be just about the only incentive to get people to buy the @#$% that Bioware churns out. IMO, the gameplay itself isn't fun enough to justify another purchase without meaningful story content that actually makes a difference to the endings beyond changing some EMS numbers.

[Tritium315]

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Lets be real, even though they're saying this, how many times has Bioware lied to us about ME3/EC beforehand. One can always hope they're lieing again now.

Also they had no plans to expand on the ending when the actual game launched, and we know how that turned out. If the first pre-ending story dlc bombs then maybe they'll reconsider their plans.

[Spartas Husky]

HA, your deluding yourself if you think Ima buy anything from you people unless is actual work on all the stuff you missed....sigh

[Femlob]

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Riddle me this: what would be the point of new early- or mid-game content?

- It cannot be about additional EMS, since one can already achieve every ending in the game with just Mass Effect 3 and the Extended Cut.
- It cannot touch upon the endings in any way, since BioWare has stated multiple times that it does not wish to revisit or add further content to the endings.

So why on earth would I bother to pay you for content that is, in the larger scheme of things, completely and utterly irrelevant? Just so I can play as Aria, or save Joker's sister, or whatever? The endings are still riddled with plotholes, McGuffins and Deus Ex Machina; so even if said new content would be amazing, I'd still have to slug through the travesty that is the last ten minutes of the game once I'm transported back to the original content.

I'm not sure who BioWare is expecting to pay for any of this, but you can count me out.

Not that that matters, I'm well aware of that.

Modifié par Femlob, 27 juin 2012 - 08:09 .