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#101
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Would an arrival esque dlc which sets up the universe post me3 for the next non Shepard ME game count?

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TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


So what you're saying is that there will be ABSOLUTELY NO further post-game story based DLC's or expansions that will deal with Commander Shepard, correct?

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It would be a missed opportunity if the bought DLC didn't affect the ending in some way. I'm not meaning that it has to rewrite the ending, but we should at the least see some slides showing the repercussions of doing these missions, or maybe a tiny bit of video during the battles. I'm currently okay with the ending (though the mission is atrocious), but it would be nice to see what happens to Omega if I save it, or this Leviathan.

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DaosX wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


So what you're saying is that there will be ABSOLUTELY NO further post-game story based DLC's or expansions that will deal with Commander Shepard, correct?


Save a screenshot; it wouldn't be the first time, after all.

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crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure


Amen, brother. 

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Femlob wrote...

DaosX wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


So what you're saying is that there will be ABSOLUTELY NO further post-game story based DLC's or expansions that will deal with Commander Shepard, correct?


Save a screenshot; it wouldn't be the first time, after all.


Kinda funny: BioWare was also saying that they have no desire in adding or recreating ending and here we go - refusal aka middlefinger ending appeared :wizard:

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 27 juin 2012 - 09:44 .


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Yes! I would buy the DLC anyway, simply because I love mass effect and the ending hasn't ruined it for me, so i will still buy DLC. However, the idea of it making the refuse option a success is genious. You still get all the endings and all the same choices if you don't buy the DLC, but those who do buy it are rewarded for being loyal fans and get a chance for success. Bare in mind that it would have to be a very difficult success, and by that I mean you would have to lose a lot!

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 This would ultra awesome super cool great. I would pay for it. I would let Bioware curbstomp me for it. :V

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Pockydon wrote...

Yes! I would buy the DLC anyway, simply because I love mass effect and the ending hasn't ruined it for me, so i will still buy DLC. However, the idea of it making the refuse option a success is genious. You still get all the endings and all the same choices if you don't buy the DLC, but those who do buy it are rewarded for being loyal fans and get a chance for success. Bare in mind that it would have to be a very difficult success, and by that I mean you would have to lose a lot!


We start off with permanently "losing" Starbrat. It can only get better from there.

But, alas, artistic integrity. Mac must feel so warm inside.

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Pockydon wrote...

Yes! I would buy the DLC anyway, simply because I love mass effect and the ending hasn't ruined it for me, so i will still buy DLC. However, the idea of it making the refuse option a success is genious. You still get all the endings and all the same choices if you don't buy the DLC, but those who do buy it are rewarded for being loyal fans and get a chance for success. Bare in mind that it would have to be a very difficult success, and by that I mean you would have to lose a lot!

Exactly! And, well, that is why I propose not just one, but two or three DLC, all of which together allow for a wholly succesful 'happy ending' Refusal option. Maybe you also need 100%, except I would be shooting myself in the foot there, not playing MP and all that. <_<

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While bEAware insists on sticking rigidly to their "artistic vision" (ie the breakdown of narrative coherence that is the mess that ended the series - something that isn't fixed by the EC), I will stick to my "capitalistic vision" and keep my wallet firmly in my pocket.

No paid-for DLC for Mass Effect 3. They've killed the game. The EC marginally fixes some of the problems, but not the critical ones, and it's too little, too late. Besides, I don't like being lied to.


This times 1 billion. Bioware showed that they now lack the ability to write coherently and I don't feel that anything they produce would be worth any money. I'll just watch it on youtube if I even care at that point. They've lost every single ounce of trust I had for them when they wrote that ending and have left me incredibly jaded regarding their competency in producing anything of quality.

I hate to be so negative but having finished the EC DLC only several hours ago I'm still pretty annoyed at what they did to Mass Effect. At least it's over.

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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.

Then you have turly failed us, congratz.

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I understand that Tully is just tying to help us with what he knows, as any good public relations person does. Regardsless, I still think that a final choice, turning Refuse into a success, would be welcomed by most fans, especially if it is a rewards for buying all the DLC. (Like I did)

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TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


Yeah but its not like you guys haven't either lied or been wrong about whats actually going to be released before.

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I would rather like to see DLC with some more interesting adventures or information which help to understand/clarify or expand the knowledge for the actual endings or just add something interesting to the whole lore perhaps fixing some plot holes.

But NO to DLC with just another ending.

Modifié par v3paR, 28 juin 2012 - 05:37 .


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[quote]garrusfan1 wrote...

[quote]umadcommander wrote...

[quote]crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure[/quote]

https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 
Totally[/quote]

Bioware can take my money. I want a reunion too!!

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I would pay for a fifth ending, yep sure. I care about the narrative, not about the exploititive dlc strategy.

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nupfi wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure



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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...


Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?


To get that ending, I would buy the DLC. Hopefully they would let Shepard live and reunite with crew too. As long as the endings do not change or new DLC doesn't reveal information that may change my current view of the ending choices, I won't be buying any DLC because it seems pointless since it changes nothing.

Modifié par JennDragonAge, 28 juin 2012 - 06:12 .


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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


does that mean no DLC after the ending?

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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


I don't want to tell you what to do, Bioware, but I really do suggest you reconsider your plans. I think you're going to find a ton of people aren't going to buy any SP DLC if it has zero impact on the ending. I'm not trying to be whiny here. I'm just telling you what you probably already know. (And I don't mean adding a new picture/text slide for each DLC)

But if your artistic integrity is more important than an overwhelming fan consensus on what we want in the SP DLCs and also the money you would make from them, then I understand. Honestly I do. No hidden jab or insult there.

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Just pick Destroy dudes.

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Fuzrum77 wrote...

TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


I don't want to tell you what to do, Bioware, but I really do suggest you reconsider your plans. I think you're going to find a ton of people aren't going to buy any SP DLC if it has zero impact on the ending. I'm not trying to be whiny here. I'm just telling you what you probably already know. (And I don't mean adding a new picture/text slide for each DLC)

But if your artistic integrity is more important than an overwhelming fan consensus on what we want in the SP DLCs and also the money you would make from them, then I understand. Honestly I do. No hidden jab or insult there.


Agreed. I want ending effecting DLC, then MAYBE I will think about buying other DLC

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look its as simple as it gets
after you finished the game since it is "the final me game"
if there is no ending change or impact in any future DLC
if it is not free its not worth any money
shep and his crew were mass effect with the story they told gone so will the game
so either the dlc hold change and new possibility's or its gonna just be declared as a waste of money
simple

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Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?


If they came out with a DLC that expanded on the ending choices in a significant way...such as what has been stated with the refusal option being expanded so you can win with it...then yes if it was well written and well received...I would probably check it out.

But I would not buy 3 DLC's to get that! To spend $30 or so just for another end option is not gonna happen for me.

Without a DLC that effects the endings in a significant way...I have no interest in DLC period. It makes no sense for me to buy any DLC just to add a couple of hours of gameplay that is meaningless in the end.

I could care less about a little slideshow showing the aftermath of the DLC or just adding a couple of lines of dialogue with the stupid little star kid. It has to be significant to the ending PERIOD!