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jsar72 wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?


If they came out with a DLC that expanded on the ending choices in a significant way...such as what has been stated with the refusal option being expanded so you can win with it...then yes if it was well written and well received...I would probably check it out.

But I would not buy 3 DLC's to get that! To spend $30 or so just for another end option is not gonna happen for me.

Without a DLC that effects the endings in a significant way...I have no interest in DLC period. It makes no sense for me to buy any DLC just to add a couple of hours of gameplay that is meaningless in the end.

I could care less about a little slideshow showing the aftermath of the DLC or just adding a couple of lines of dialogue with the stupid little star kid. It has to be significant to the ending PERIOD!



from what i know and the mass effect team keeps saying
the EC is the final and only ending ME3 is gonna get
there will be no DLC for new ending or anything thats what they say
and if u scroll up one of the bioware team just said that EC is the final ending
so basicly all non free DLC's for mass effect 3 are gonna be Quote "FAIL!"

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TullyAckland wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?

I've always felt that BW has left the field open to new endings via DLC... They've said that ME3 is a complete game with a beginning, middle and an end, but they, AFAIK, have never said explicitly that there would never be new endings added in the future.


Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


um then Why add refuse and why change some of the stuff at the end, and if I am not mistaken the Leviathen of Dis is that a DLC or no, because it's in the EC and it talks about a rogu Reaper so the Catalys does not Control all of the Reapers then which proves that the Catalys is wrong about Controling the Reapers, which is incorrect since well there is a Rogu Reaper now.

Also You all said that there were not going to be any changes to the endings but there was.

Normandys enggenis don't blow up anymore

The Releys are not fully blowing up but only a small portion of it.

THE Normandy picking up Shepard's squad and Harbinger saying something to Shepard before Shepard get's hit.

Also the Normandy is right in Harbingers face and does nothing. NOTHING.

Oh and Shepard making a weird sound when Anderson speaks Shepards's name.

And there is a lot more but you get the point.

Oh and one more thing why is the Stargazer keep's on saying ONE MORE STORY even though there is nothing left to talk about THE SHEPARD or is there?

Because even in the reject ending they still talk about the Shepard and the lady ( who looks like an Asari ) says to the child that sounds like the Catalys " ONE MORE STORY.

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Alushadow wrote...

jsar72 wrote...

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

 As some of you may have seen, the Extended Cut DLC has content that hints at new DLC, DLC that might involve the original creators of the Reapers/Catalyst.

In case this is news, here's the thread: 
http://social.biowar.../index/12777408 

Now, the Extended Cut inserts new dialogue in a number of places, for instance the conversation with the Star Child, that very slightly touch on this subject. As I said, the Star Child mentions the original creators, and that they have been turned into the very first Reaper. This could mean nothing, with ut just being extra padding, or it could be an intentional link to this rumored DLC.

Suppose the following: You buy the new DLC. You get new information. Maybe buy the next DLC, and the third one as well. Each hands you new information about the Reapers. And if you have all the pieces of information, so, all the paid DLC, the Refusal ending changes from Annihilation of the Cycle to succesfully convincing the Catalyst to stop.

However, you HAVE to buy the DLC to get this option.

How would you feel about this? Would you buy the DLC? Would you refuse on principle? Or would you just like the fact that there is more story-DLC, more gameplay, and not give a damn about any potential new ending?


If they came out with a DLC that expanded on the ending choices in a significant way...such as what has been stated with the refusal option being expanded so you can win with it...then yes if it was well written and well received...I would probably check it out.

But I would not buy 3 DLC's to get that! To spend $30 or so just for another end option is not gonna happen for me.

Without a DLC that effects the endings in a significant way...I have no interest in DLC period. It makes no sense for me to buy any DLC just to add a couple of hours of gameplay that is meaningless in the end.

I could care less about a little slideshow showing the aftermath of the DLC or just adding a couple of lines of dialogue with the stupid little star kid. It has to be significant to the ending PERIOD!



from what i know and the mass effect team keeps saying
the EC is the final and only ending ME3 is gonna get
there will be no DLC for new ending or anything thats what they say
and if u scroll up one of the bioware team just said that EC is the final ending
so basicly all non free DLC's for mass effect 3 are gonna be Quote "FAIL!"


I was never under the impression they would create DLC that had impact on the end sequence or opened more options to the end besides a couple extra lines of dialogue. I VERY much expect that I will not be buying any DLC for this game.

And I agree...any DLC they come out with will be a "FAIL" in my opinion. All of it in my opinion will be silly little fodder with no impact whatsoever.:(

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Just to make things clear: When I say "new DLC", I'm not referring to a DLC that consist of only a new ending, but a mission-pack, like Leviathan, that gives Shepard new information, that he can use against the Star Child.

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ummmm they didnt change anything actually bro refusal was a secret option most people were not aware to
prior to EC if you walked to the red zone and were able to shoot your gun again
you could turn around and shoot the kid then he says in his backstabbing reaper voice
"SO BE IT!" and everyone dies and u get the liara holo end

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Alushadow wrote...

ummmm they didnt change anything actually bro refusal was a secret option most people were not aware to
prior to EC if you walked to the red zone and were able to shoot your gun again
you could turn around and shoot the kid then he says in his backstabbing reaper voice
"SO BE IT!" and everyone dies and u get the liara holo end

What you talking 'bout, Willis? I know for a fact that that's not true.

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as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

RIGHT F*CKING ON MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:o

+1 for me too. I want my BroShep to have lots of little Quarian babies with Tali :)

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If Leviathan brings Shepard back and reunites him with Jack, Zaeed, Kasumi, Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, Tali, Garrus, Joker, Grunt, Wrex, Samara, and Liara.

If Leviathan brings Anderson back

If Leviathan includes Shiara and Gianna making a comeback

If Leviathan does all that than sure i would pay bioware whatever but if not oooops darn they aint gettin a penny from me.

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Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure

RIGHT F*CKING ON MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:o

+1 for me too. I want my BroShep to have lots of little Quarian babies with Tali :)


we all do
but me team stated it wont happen
they took the money they dont care anymore

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Velocithon wrote...

"No DLC related to the endings"

So...no DLC AT ALL will involve the endings? Not even impact it? Then, I ask, what would be the goddamn point of DLC?


Exactly.  There is no point if we already know that all that happens will still happen.  If however they gave us a chance to change the outcome, the value of any DLC would increase immensely.  If working to liberate Omega would mean I could change something in the end, it would be fully worth it.  If not, what's the point-well, there is none.

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Hell yea id buy this. The EC has renewed my faith in bioware, although a bit timidly.

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i am thinking this is what will happen as i mused this possibility the other day

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There's at least potential with all DLC's to add additional content to the endings or anywhere throughout the game. For example, if XBOX Live has a 2GB cap on DLC, then if they plan carefully and use their resources wisely, they could add additional content with future DLC. It doesn't even have to be the main focus, but with that DLC it could at least offer some more stuff simply to get around the data cap.

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Alright I gotta say it does everyone here believe bioware they said they weren't gonna add another choice or add anything to the ending exept clarification a fourth ending proves that wasn't true so why does everyone say what they say is true I normally wouldn't say this but bioware hasn't really been truthful about most things lately and if they can make a lot of money on something small and inexpensive to make uhh they probably will. There probably gonna add little things to each or most dlc to add to the ending (no they won't change it but add stuff like a reunion and other things. Please consider this next time you take what bioware says as the absolute truth.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

"No DLC related to the endings"

So...no DLC AT ALL will involve the endings? Not even impact it? Then, I ask, what would be the goddamn point of DLC?


Exactly.  There is no point if we already know that all that happens will still happen.  If however they gave us a chance to change the outcome, the value of any DLC would increase immensely.  If working to liberate Omega would mean I could change something in the end, it would be fully worth it.  If not, what's the point-well, there is none.

But the thing is, and no offense to Tully, but, assuming the EC content of Leviathan is correct, then what (s)he said is an outright lie. The Leviathan DLC WILL impact the ending. Even if it's only two extra lines of dialogue.

However, I'm quite certain that wat Tully meant was, "no DLC related only to the endings". So no DLC called 'Fifth Ending', which would give you a another ending, and nothing more. That still leaves open any possibility of DLC that is purely mission-based, but will have an ever-so-slight impact on the ending.

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On principle I will never pay a company to fix a problem that was caused by their own stupidity and laziness, if it's free i'll give them another chance if i have to pay i'll simply check it on youtube.

In fact if bioware tries to make me buy an ending that should have been in the game in the first place i don't think i'd but another game off them, and this is coming from someone who's bought almost every game since baldur's gate

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TullyAckland wrote...

Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings.


Yes but it was also stated that no other/extra ending would be added

Derek Larke wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No.
BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of
this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand
on the existing endings
, but no further ending DLC is planned.


And also no mention of retconning

Derek Larke wrote...

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare
will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional
cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences
. The
goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to
Mass Effect 3.


So what happend?

If you can answer this simple question then I would be grateful

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Heck a simple slide will do showing the consequences. With a reunion addition (does not even have to be a dedicated DLC) it could just add one picture showing the reunion. It is not ment to change, re do, undo the endings...just add, clarify...closure

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Well, the whole problem is that Bioware doesn't have much credibility right now, so anything is possible. Speculation for everyone. They could say tomorrow that they are going to release a definitive copy of ME3 with all new endings-a player's cut version, that fully incorporates all of the choices made in the 3 games and with endings that flow from those choices without some set up choices at the end, followed by an apology for all the ill will, and a huge segment of people would not believe them. They have zero credibility. The reject option (as it is) and no closure on the gasping Shepard are inferential indications of their disdain.

So, they can say today they will never do this or that, and will do something else, and none of it is believable until it happens. And I certainly wouldn't be in line to buy. And I won't consult IGN to see if anything they make is worth the money.

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cbutz wrote...

Heck a simple slide will do showing the consequences. With a reunion addition (does not even have to be a dedicated DLC) it could just add one picture showing the reunion. It is not ment to change, re do, undo the endings...just add, clarify...closure

No slides. Sorry but I'd much rather stick with head canon than have a cheap slide tell me what happens again. 

Slides were understandable given the restraints of the EC. For paid DLC it's cheap and unacceptable. 

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Yes I would buy DLC for new endings, not that I so much hate these (cause really, these are fine as they are), BUT if the outcome of the DLC changes the wareffort. Like if you would somehow, like in Leviathan, get the Leviathan on your side.

Then sure I would.

But buy DLC for a new ending..? Naayeeaahnaah.. I probably would, I may watch youtube first and then go crazy like a madman and go buy it. Aaarrrgh, JUST TAKE MY MONEY AND SHUT UP!

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Velocithon wrote...

cbutz wrote...

Heck a simple slide will do showing the consequences. With a reunion addition (does not even have to be a dedicated DLC) it could just add one picture showing the reunion. It is not ment to change, re do, undo the endings...just add, clarify...closure

No slides. Sorry but I'd much rather stick with head canon than have a cheap slide tell me what happens again. 

Slides were understandable given the restraints of the EC. For paid DLC it's cheap and unacceptable. 


I think had they included even a reunion slide in the EC (as awful as I think the slides were), it would have been a bit satsifying.  Friends surrounding Shepard and LI there beside him/her.  It would have been ok, not great.  But there's no way that that would be acceptable in other DLC. 

Personally I don't see why they couldn't have just shown the Memorial Wall with Anderson's name on it, the Normandy flying off and then instead of the group at the Memorial wall, show them all around a very much alive Shepard where the LI instead of holding a nameplate (that made no sense), hugs Shepard or makes eye contact or acknowledges the relief they made it. 

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 29 juin 2012 - 03:43 .


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*bump*

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umadcommander wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as long as I get my goddamn reunion....sure


https://encrypted-tb...u2_olN0gI5KLvZ 

Exactly, if I get my reunion I could care less what the DLC's were about. It could be about how Reapers dress each other up colorfull cloth after each cycle. Dun care. Want reunion.

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Given that any new DLC will not impact change to the ending, it will more than likely do onee of two things.

1. Make clear an aspect of the current endings.
2. Have an impact in another ME game they release. This one probably more so than the 1st given the "Save your ME3 game save" talk.