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[Ageless Face]

I don't care how idiotic it looks. My Shepard was about to sacrifice herself and to never see Kaidan again. I needed this scene to say goodbye.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 27 juin 2012 - 06:49 .

[TheTrueObelus]

Was the scene poignant? Yes.

It also didn't make any sense in the context of what had happened previously. If the Normandy could fly in and pick people up they could also drop people off.

Like another company of soldiers to rush the beam after Harbinger left...

[SuperZombieChow]

I enjoyed it for what it was.

It would have been better if the injury happened during the "Crashing transport" scene (Make the transport wreck be part of a reaper fly by), and Shepard has Coats take the wounded back in the last functional transport. Insert tearful goodbyes, Shepard turns, queue harbinger landing as a challenge to the now solo Shepard.

[Kastrenzo]

N7Kopper wrote...

Jackster94 wrote...

Why is the Normandy pick up considered a plot hole . The Normandy was not advancing and if harbinger focused on the Normandy even for a moment he runs risk of soldiers going through the beam

Either this



Or this

My Excuse was Harbinger fell ill to the sterotypical movie badguy syndrome, and took too long to shoot the good guys, allowing them time to dramatically escape

[Kastrenzo]

lagged post... FAAANTASTIC

Modifié par Kastrenzo, 27 juin 2012 - 07:10 .

[Kastrenzo]

Also am I the only one who thought that the Voiceover Audio for Tali/Shepard goodbye was too quiet? I couldnt even understand them without subtitles

[Ashtarth1]

yes it was epic and emotional

[Alexius]

I enjoyed it. A lot.
Yeah, it breaks the sequence, but I can see it happening. And to me Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy because... well... there are still people trying to get to the beam. To prevent that is kind of his job.

[The Night Mammoth]

I liked the dialogue, but the situation was........... utterly moronic.

How the f*ck the Normandy managed to conveniently appear and not get instantly blasted out of the sky by Harbinger is beyond me.

A regular shuttle would have made more sense, with a short scene showing it fly towards the Normandy in orbit.

[MaleQuariansFTW]

I loved it. It changed the context of the beam run from "who can get to the beam first" to "this is an actual assault on getting to the beam".

And its possible Harby didn't shoot down the Normandy because it still has the Reaper IFF, and since Reapers don't have eyes it didn't detect it as an enemy.

[Tymathee]

Reaper IFF, the Normandy looks like one of their own.

Also, I thikn the Reapers don't "see" as we "see" and it's through kind of a radar.

there's also the possibility that the Reapers WANTED Shepard to live and run the risk of killing him if they destroyed the Normany.. It's obvious the Reaper consciousness saw Shepard as a transcendent being much like themselves and may see him as kind of kin, especially since he was an organic/synthetic.

but yeah i was like uh, why is Harby just looking on, he's a bad azzz just do it now, take 'em all out ya dumb bastard.

[AndreasShepard]

It was for me the most powerful scene in the entire ME trilogy. Shepard finally telling Kaidan he loved him and the look on Kaidan's face when he had to let go. Sometimes Bioware doesn't really get emotion right like with the STTEEEEVE scene, but in this moment they absolutely nailed it. I was in tears, the fact that a video game gave me that kind of emotional response more than made up for any plausibility issues.

[Upbeat Elcor]

Reaper ships don't have windows because it's a structural weakness, as a result, they can't see the Normandy.

[Uncle Jo]

Upbeat Elcor wrote...

Reaper ships don't have windows because it's a structural weakness, as a result, they can't see the Normandy.

So how could he see the Hammer assault ? Is he randomly shooting ? Quite successful though.

What you said is true for the Geth ships.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 27 juin 2012 - 07:34 .

[MaleQuariansFTW]

Tymathee wrote...


there's also the possibility that the Reapers WANTED Shepard to live and run the risk of killing him if they destroyed the Normany.. It's obvious the Reaper consciousness saw Shepard as a transcendent being much like themselves and may see him as kind of kin, especially since he was an organic/synthetic.

That's a good reason too, Harby spent the entire time in ME2 saying to not kill Shep when he was assuming direct control. Why would he want to just shoot him now? Shep is the pinnacle of the human race, no point wasting him like that.

[AnImpossibleGirl]

blmlozz wrote...

As a Kaidan L/I shep, the normandy pickup scene was my favorite part of the EC. Easily.

Same. Might have teared up...okay, I did,

[Ketten]

Well, Garrus finally told my Shepard that he loved her at the end of that scene so I was pretty damn satisfied.

[budzai]

o Ventus wrote...

Crysis I wrote...

why would harbinger shoot the normandy ? he would be giving the troops on the ground a chance to get to the beam you lot look into this too much

HE CAN FIRE MORE THAN ONE BEAM AT A TIME

THERE ARE MOR THEN ONE SOLIDER !!!!!!!!! REALY SHUT THE **** UP FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omega Torsk]

I did! 

No, it doesn't make much sense and breaks the flow, but damn if it doesn't feel so frakking GOOD!

Ashley's final goodbye to Shepard, the "I'll always love you" line, caused manly tears to flow.

[LolaLei]

Made me cry like a ****. Pity we don't get definitive confirmation that Shepard and the Normandy crew/LI reunite, it was so sad having to separate Kaidan and my Shepard for a second time.

Modifié par LolaLei, 27 juin 2012 - 08:05 .

[budzai]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Upbeat Elcor wrote...

Reaper ships don't have windows because it's a structural weakness, as a result, they can't see the Normandy.

So how could he see the Hammer assault ? Is he randomly shooting ? Quite successful though.

What you said is true for the Geth ships.

Radar... and because of the IFF he can't see...

it is so small problem that anyone who cry about it should be shoot in the face...

[Spartas Husky]

One of the most ridiculous scenes ever. Garrus willingly leaving you. Not to mention the GIANT reaper boss standing no more than a mile away watching it all happen... I wtf. A Collector ship can target the normandy in planetary distances, and harbinger cant threaten the normandy from within city limits... god that made me so freacking angry.

[Uncle Jo]

budzai wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Upbeat Elcor wrote...

Reaper ships don't have windows because it's a structural weakness, as a result, they can't see the Normandy.

So how could he see the Hammer assault ? Is he randomly shooting ? Quite successful though.

What you said is true for the Geth ships.

Radar... and because of the IFF he can't see...

it is so small problem that anyone who cry about it should be shoot in the face...

From what I know the Reaper IFF's purpose was to ensure the Normandy to get through the Omega 4 Relay without being directed into a blackhole. And if you remember the Oculus and the Collector Ship still attacked the Normandy on sight...

I also strongly advise you to remain civil.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 27 juin 2012 - 08:21 .

[Han Shot First]

Spartas Husky wrote...

One of the most ridiculous scenes ever. Garrus willingly leaving you. Not to mention the GIANT reaper boss standing no more than a mile away watching it all happen... I wtf. A Collector ship can target the normandy in planetary distances, and harbinger cant threaten the normandy from within city limits... god that made me so freacking angry.

Garrus (or whomever is wounded) leaves you because they are seriously wounded and have lost a lot of blood. As an example, here is a screenshot of Liara in that scene:





All that purple blood on Liara is her blood, as the Asari bleed violet. If a romanced Garrus, Tali, or VS in that scene instead they are just as seriously wounded. Considering the amount of blood loss without immediate medical attention they could potentially die from shock (the biggest killer on the battlefield), if not the from the effects of the blood loss itself. Additionally the more seriously wounded squadmate could not even get aboard the Normandy without being partially carried aboard. He or she is in no condition to resume running for the beam, and would have just been killed by Harbinger.

As for Harbinger not firing at the Normandy...

It isn't all together implausible. During amphibious assaults landing craft or amtracs are often evacuating the more seriously wounded while the beachhead is still contested, and make multiple trips under heavy fire. So the evac itself is not unrealistic. That being said part of what makes evacs during an amphibious assault possible is the safety in numbers aspect. The enemy can destroy some landing craft or amtracs but can't get all of them. So with that in mind the evac scene would have probably worked better with other frigates and fighters making a run at Harbinger to provide a distraction for the ground force.

But even so, I think Harbinger not firing at the Normandy is still plausible considering that he had more immediate concerns with tanks, gunships, and dismounted infantry being much closer to the beam, and with the Normandy evacuating wounded and not assisting directly in the push. There are plausible reasons why Harbinger may not have put a priority on shooting down the Normandy at that moment.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 juin 2012 - 08:30 .

[KingNothing125]

It does make me wonder why they bothered with Hammer and the London FOB at all when the Normandy could have just flown up to the beam right from the start...

But I liked it nevertheless. Nothin' wrong with getting to tell Ash I lurvs her again