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No matter what, Shepard dies. What is the point?


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 What is the point to continue follow the series?

I mean, bought new DLC or new books... what is the point?

No matter how good you were in ME1/2, how much of EMS you reunited... Shepard dies no matter what.

I think that is time to say goodbye to this series and bioware as whole.

There were many awesome years , without a shadow of doubt. Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2  and Mass Effect  3.

But I can not see a single reason to continue following the series and lost confidence in Bioware.

Thank you Bioware, for everything. Farewell.

Modifié par Cucobr, 27 juin 2012 - 02:09 .


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shepard lives if you destroy the reapers and with high enough ems XD

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This was always going to be the final game with Shepard. If you need to believe he/she is alive to continue to play games set in the ME universe, choose Destroy.

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Well, see ya' later!

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Kaelef

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No matter what, we all die. So......

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Personally Shepards death never bothered me, but I can understand why others want him to live.

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Shepard lives in Destroy, sort of.

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 27 juin 2012 - 02:12 .


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Shepard did NOT die in my ending. He breathed under the rubble and Ash sensed it and didn't put his name up on the memorial wall and the Normandy charged off...to be continued.

You are being irrational, OP. They always said Shep's journey ends with this game. It isn't a surprise.

Modifié par Hammer6767, 27 juin 2012 - 02:11 .


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luzburg wrote...

shepard lives if you destroy the reapers and with high enough ems XD


Correction Shepard "lives?"

It has not been truly confirmed that it was Shepard or that he was alive. That could have been the last gasp before death. There is nothing concrete about that "Breath Scene" or at least nothing Bioware will commit to

No space babies
No reunion
Some closure
"Bittersweet"
End of Line

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Shepard will live on in our hearts...

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PSUHammer

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A reunion, after all that, with a living Shep and the squad would have been anti climatic. So glad they didn't do that and just implied he was alive.

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jla0644 wrote...

This was always going to be the final game with Shepard. If you need to believe he/she is alive to continue to play games set in the ME universe, choose Destroy.


I choose destroy at the very Beginning. before the EC comes out.

Without EC, I believed that Shepard was alive because of Breath Scene.I was really looking forward to discover more about this scene.

With EC, the Breath Scene is no longer enough.

Modifié par Cucobr, 27 juin 2012 - 02:17 .


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No he does not? Destroy + high EMS = alive. Officially stated. Cutscene is named "End03_Shepard_Alive_Male". Li does NOT place the plate.

But still we do need a Reunion and LI Epilouge.

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luzburg wrote...

shepard lives if you destroy the reapers and with high enough ems XD


Maybe he's talking about that in any potential sequel, Shepard is no longer relevant (i.e.dead); he would simply be a footnote in history versus a PC or NPC.

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Cucobr wrote...

jla0644 wrote...

This was always going to be the final game with Shepard. If you need to believe he/she is alive to continue to play games set in the ME universe, choose Destroy.


I choose destroy at the very Beginning. before the EC comes out.

Without EC, I believed that Shepard was alive because of Breath Scene.I was really looking forward to discover more about this scene.

With EC, the Breath Scene is no longer enough.

 

Yes it is...the ending didn't change and with the Breath scene, the memorial scene changes as your LI senses you are still alive. It is implied that they go off to find him. A reunion would have been anti climatic at this point and I am glad they didn't do it. It would have been cliche.

Modifié par Hammer6767, 27 juin 2012 - 02:20 .


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Ok...let's say Shepard is ACTUALLY ALIVE.


What does it matter? Game is over. We get no closure. No reunion scene. Nothing. Dead or alive, it's pointless to argue about it because nothing happens. You just have to make it up, which in this case is extremely lame.

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Velocithon wrote...

Ok...let's say Shepard is ACTUALLY ALIVE.


What does it matter? Game is over. We get no closure. No reunion scene. Nothing. Dead or alive, it's pointless to argue about it because nothing happens. You just have to make it up, which in this case is extremely lame.



headcanons...headcanons everywhere?

"Lots of headcanon for everyone"

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Ithurael wrote...

luzburg wrote...

shepard lives if you destroy the reapers and with high enough ems XD


Correction Shepard "lives?"

It has not been truly confirmed that it was Shepard or that he was alive. That could have been the last gasp before death. There is nothing concrete about that "Breath Scene" or at least nothing Bioware will commit to

No space babies
No reunion
Some closure
"Bittersweet"
End of Line


actually its been confirmed several times by bioware staff that Shepard does live in that ending... the file is even called "Shepard lives"

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In Control, Shepard becomes a God, leaving their organic existence behind and ascending to a new form of life. Organic Shepard dies, but Gd-Shepard lives on.

In Synthesis, Shep dies. That much is true.

In Destroy, it's very much implied, with 3100 EMS, that Shep lives. In fact, the LI refuses to add the plague with your name onto the wall of the deceased, knowing that their Shepard is still alive, out there somewhere.

So, three outcomes: Ascension, death, and life. Not bad, I'd say.

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The EC actually makes a plot hole out of the breath scene. Because the EC makes it seem like time passes (crew of the Normandy does the wall thing, has time to repair the ship we see moments earlier was damaged when they walk out of it). So was a bleeding Shep laying in rubble for days, weeks, more than likely months then takes a breath? HUH?

Modifié par sheppard7, 27 juin 2012 - 02:23 .


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Hammer6767 wrote...

Shepard did NOT die in my ending. He breathed under the rubble and Ash sensed it and didn't put his name up on the memorial wall and the Normandy charged off...to be continued.

Except it won't be continued.

Hammer6767 wrote...

A reunion would have been anti climatic at this point and I am glad they didn't do it. It would have been cliche.

I find the current state of the ending to be anti-climatic and cliche, so that's hardly an issue. And is there really anyone who wouldn't prefer this to that abominable "Stargazer" scene?

Modifié par Cthulhu42, 27 juin 2012 - 02:27 .


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I always thought that in a role-playing game, you're supposed to role-play.

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If Shep was going to die in all the endings why make the effort to create a scene where Shep is breathing, nevertheless making that scene a reward for a high EMS?

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sheppard7 wrote...

The EC actually makes a plot hole out of the breath scene. Because the EC makes it seem like time passes (crew of the Normandy does the wall thing, has time to repair the ship we see moments earlier was damaged when they walk out of it). So was a bleeding Shep laying in rubble for days, weeks, more than likely months then takes a breath? HUH?


I saw that as more of a time lapse and it never really bothered me. You go from still imagery in the epilogue back to cut scene.

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sheppard7 wrote...

The EC actually makes a plot hole out of the breath scene. Because the EC makes it seem like time passes (crew of the Normandy does the wall thing, has time to repair the ship we see moments earlier was damaged when they walk out of it). So was a bleeding Shep laying in rubble for days, weeks, more than likely months then takes a breath? HUH?


Only if you assume that the Destroy ending takes place in chronological sequence. If you don't, you can say that, after landing on Planet Paradise, first thing the the crew did was a memorial for Anderson and you, only thanks to your LI, they decide to postpone yours until they actually found you. Flashback to Shep taking a breath just as he wakes up.

Similarly, I take the Control ending to take place years and years into the future, maybe millenia. having a sense of being truly immortal isn't something you gain voernight, not even after a few years.