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[EricHVela]

Who here really believes that all points in Dragon Age can some to a close in just one more game?

Dragon Age stories seem to me to be akin to a fantasy series rather than a mere trilogy. (It is part of the reason why I loathe naming the episode of Dragon Age: Kirkwall as Dragon Age ][. Fantasy series don't do that as a common practice. Trilogies, however, do.)

I feel there is far too much to accomplish for it to all fit in one more game. I also feel that the set up for a grand finale is not yet complete. A Hero of Ferelden and a Champion of Kirkwall is hardly enough to set the stage for a Thedas-encompassing finale IMHO. (My preference is to have more stories that parallel the Kirkwall timeline or, at least, overlap the timeline like Kirkwall did with Origins.)

Can we drop the I, ][ and III from Dragon Age? Can we go back to the fantasy series story-naming practice and create many more stories to fill the continent of Thedas instead of the end of a trilogy?

It's just a game. Sure. Can it also be a fantasy series like the famous fantasy novels that people love?

Yes? No? Let's hear it.

[Jerrybnsn]

My favorite fantasy series growning up that I read was the Belgarian series by David Eddings. http://www.goodreads...ans_of_the_West

[TEWR]

Dragon Age isn't meant to be a trilogy. It'll span various iterations.

Really, I do have to wonder why many people assume such. Bioware has never made any comments that would even hint at such a thing, so it is somewhat perplexing to me that people see the DA series as being only a trilogy.

Not trying to be rude or anything. But the OP isn't the first person to assume such a thing, and that's why I'm curious.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 27 juin 2012 - 08:45 .

[Realmzmaster]

DA is about the world of Thedas,so there are many more stories to tell. ME's focus was Shephard and what was happening in his/her universe. ME's story eventually had to be wrapped up.There was only so long that ME's story could sustain itself.

Now , DA may end if sales of DA3 tank, but that remains to be seen.

[Jerrybnsn]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dragon Age isn't meant to be a trilogy. It'll span various iterations.

Really, I do have to wonder why many people assume such. Bioware has never made any comments that would even hint at such a thing, so it is somewhat perplexing to me that people see the DA series as being only a trilogy.

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It has been pretty well discussed that this last game, number three, is going to be the last before the next gen consoles.  This would make the series, in a sense, a trilogy since you won't be able to import from 3 to 4.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I wanted DA2 to have a sub-title just like I want the next DA to have a sub-title. I think sub-titles better suit DA games than numbers. I mean each game is about a different protagonist. Dragon Age: Origins sounds awesome. Dragon Age 2 just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Everytime I play Dragon Age: Origins, I shout "Dragon Age: Origins!" as the game comes on and starts that awesome sexy loading screen. When I played Dragon Age 2, I never shouted the title out.

The next Dragon Age game needs to have an awesome sexy sub-title.

[Withidread]

Faerunner wrote...

Also, this is just speculation, but as far as I know the devs haven't created a forum for the next game because they haven't come up with a name for it yet. If they were just planning on calling it "Dragon Age III", then there would most likely not be a hold up. (Though if I'm wrong, someone will likely correct me.)

So, yeah. You don't need to worry. =)

Well, a title is fairly important, but, I think the existence of a forum hinges more on the official announcement of the game.

[Silfren]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Who here really believes that all points in Dragon Age can some to a close in just one more game?

Dragon Age stories seem to me to be akin to a fantasy series rather than a mere trilogy. (It is part of the reason why I loathe naming the episode of Dragon Age: Kirkwall as Dragon Age ][. Fantasy series don't do that as a common practice. Trilogies, however, do.)

I feel there is far too much to accomplish for it to all fit in one more game. I also feel that the set up for a grand finale is not yet complete. A Hero of Ferelden and a Champion of Kirkwall is hardly enough to set the stage for a Thedas-encompassing finale IMHO. (My preference is to have more stories that parallel the Kirkwall timeline or, at least, overlap the timeline like Kirkwall did with Origins.)

Can we drop the I, ][ and III from Dragon Age? Can we go back to the fantasy series story-naming practice and create many more stories to fill the continent of Thedas instead of the end of a trilogy?

It's just a game. Sure. Can it also be a fantasy series like the famous fantasy novels that people love?

Yes? No? Let's hear it.

It has never once been said that DA was meant to be a trilogy.  Gaider has explicitly stated this on more than one occasion, and the first statement was made something on the order of two years ago, suggesting that four or five or more games were planned.  So this idea that it was intended as a trilogy?  Is a fan-made rumor that never was based on anything but fan presumption, not from anything Bioware ever said. 

[Silfren]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dragon Age isn't meant to be a trilogy. It'll span various iterations.

Really, I do have to wonder why many people assume such. Bioware has never made any comments that would even hint at such a thing, so it is somewhat perplexing to me that people see the DA series as being only a trilogy.

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It has been pretty well discussed that this last game, number three, is going to be the last before the next gen consoles.  This would make the series, in a sense, a trilogy since you won't be able to import from 3 to 4.

No.  Not even "in a sense."  Not being able to import from older games will hardly mean the first three will be a trilogy.  If there's a four games, or five, or eighteen, then it won't be a trilogy.  And TEWR is right, this notion that DA will be a trilogy is a ridiculous assumption that fans have been putting forth since well before DA2 was announced, despite the fact that no one at Bioware EVER said it was slated to be a trilogy, and in fact has said the very opposite.  Gaider has explicitly suggested four or five or more DA games.

Even if fans are unaware of the specific statements made from Bioware employees on the subject, it's still kind of eye-rollingly annoying that so many people DO assume it's intended as a trilogy without anything to base that on. 

Especially, just because the games are numbered is a silly reason to assume that there are only three numbers planned. 

[Fast Jimmy]

And... I say let's kill the import flags now! Why wait until the next console generation?

The only way to have choice matter is to stop trying to carry it over from game to game. Give the player a truly satisfying outcome to each of their choices, in game and in the ending, and you will make a great game. Forcing work arounds and hand-me-down, lip service scenes to appease choices made in previous games will extend the longevity and appeal of the series far beyond the artificial "trilogy" limit so many keep naturally assuming.

[Auroras]

As has been stated before in this thread, I doubt DA will be a trilogy.

[devSin]

The combined mage circles of Thedas have withdrawn from Chantry oversight. They are now in direct conflict with the Chantry and have rejected Templar authority.

The events of DA2 were the spark, not the fire.

As to the topic, Dragon Age is not a trilogy. It will continue on for as long as they feel like making more games in the setting.

Modifié par devSin, 28 juin 2012 - 07:22 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Silfren wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dragon Age isn't meant to be a trilogy. It'll span various iterations.

Really, I do have to wonder why many people assume such. Bioware has never made any comments that would even hint at such a thing, so it is somewhat perplexing to me that people see the DA series as being only a trilogy.

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It has been pretty well discussed that this last game, number three, is going to be the last before the next gen consoles.  This would make the series, in a sense, a trilogy since you won't be able to import from 3 to 4.

No.  Not even "in a sense."  Not being able to import from older games will hardly mean the first three will be a trilogy. ....................Especially, just because the games are numbered is a silly reason to assume that there are only three numbers planned. 

As far as importing decisions from one game to the next, this next DA game will be the last.  Both the Xbox and Playstation are moving away from the Cell  GPU to an AMD GPU, so there will be no backward compatibility.  Once they finish DA3, no decisions or characters will be able to be imported to DA4.  That's what I mean "in a sense".  Only the first three games can be played together so Bioware might as well finish DA3 as if it is a last in a trilogy because we will all be starting fresh with DA4.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 28 juin 2012 - 09:31 .

[Fallstar]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

As far as importing decisions from one game to the next, this next DA game will be the last.  Both the Xbox and Playstation are moving away from the Cell  GPU to an AMD GPU, so there will be no backward compatibility.  Once they finish DA3, no decisions or characters will be able to be imported to DA4.  That's what I mean "in a sense".  Only the first three games can be played together so Bioware might as well finish DA3 as if it is a last in a trilogy.

Then why would they go to the effort they have done to emphasise that DA isn't intended as a trilogy. The series could end after 3 games, it could end after 5. Even with another generation of consoles, you could still import traditionally on a PC and they could give you an interface where you pick which decisions your Warden, Hawke and DA3 protagonist made on a console. That's assuming Xbox Live and PSN don't get some form of cloud storage by that point which would allow you to store your plot flags there and carry them over to the next console.

Modifié par DuskWarden, 28 juin 2012 - 09:32 .

[Jerrybnsn]

DuskWarden wrote...

That's assuming Xbox Live and PSN don't get some form of cloud storage by that point which would allow you to store your plot flags there and carry them over to the next console.

This is a very good point. But can a save format in the cloud storage still be used with a switch in GPUs?

[TonberryFeye]

I suspect Dragon Age will be a trilogy... because it would not be surprised if DA3 kills it off.

[Jerrybnsn]

TonberryFeye wrote...

I suspect Dragon Age will be a trilogy... because it would not be surprised if DA3 kills it off.

Only if they make it as another disjointed story with no real plot or "hero's journey" and keep the over the top combat with waves of enemies and extrordinary hitpoints.  Of course, some also feel that if they have to put multiplayer into the next game than that will shortened the actual single player game and reduce the quality of the story.  The future of the DA series is riding on this next game.

[Plaintiff]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dragon Age isn't meant to be a trilogy. It'll span various iterations.

Really, I do have to wonder why many people assume such. Bioware has never made any comments that would even hint at such a thing, so it is somewhat perplexing to me that people see the DA series as being only a trilogy.

Not trying to be rude or anything. But the OP isn't the first person to assume such a thing, and that's why I'm curious.

Three tends to be a very significant number in stories, particularly fantasy. I think people are just assuming it will be a trilogy because so many things are trilogies. They look at Dragon Age as a single, continuous plotline, and don't understand that it's more an "abridged history" of Thedas, where we get to play the important parts.

[AkiKishi]

Dragon Age is too limited to be a really long term franchise. It ultimately comes down to how well DA3 does and whether or not the developers are going to mix things up.
You take all the long running franchises and they have very little that connects the games beyond the name and some common elements.

[WotanAnubis]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Mage-Templar conflict is only an isolated problem in Kirkwall, not in other places.

That would be correct if you completely ignore the framing story. Cassandra is interrogating Varric because 'her precious Chantry has fallen to piece and she needs the one person who can put it back together again'.

Also, Varric's epilogue, brief and imperfect as it was, states that whichever side choose inspires members of that side all over Thedas to rise up and throw the whole place into chaos.

So... I don't think the conflict concluded. It concluded in Kirkwall, perhaps, but the long simmering animosity between Mage and Templar hasn't suddenly vanished just because Hawke killed Orsino and Meredith.

[Jerrybnsn]

I understand that Dragon Age is suppose to be a "series" and not a "trilogy". But they did say that they want those that play the game to shape their own Thedas. With this being the last possible game that you can import your "shape" of Thedas, you might as well wrap things up before the series has to start all new with the next console generation.