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[Krantzstone]

I realize a 4850 is the recommended minimum for this game, but I'm having major issues with ME3's multiplayer constantly crashing the driver, forcing me to alt-tab out of the game and back into the game just to clear up a horrific mess that is made of my screen (all 3D effects go absolutely crazy).

I'm suspecting a problem with a problem with the latest Catalyst driver and this game, because as far as I know, this doesn't happen with any other game I have.  I've tried lowering graphics settings, lowering clock settings, etc.  The only thing which seems to help somewhat is to manually set my fan to 100% permanently, and even then the problem appears (just not as often).

Every software I can find to monitor cpu and gpu temps seem to suggest nothing out of the ordinary, although things are running a little hot, yet I don't have any other game that seems to crash the 4850's drivers in Windows (7, 64 bit Home Premium) so that it makes a mess of all 3D effects (and consequently my screen).

I'm a little worried my video card is on its last legs, but I'd like to entirely rule out some other, non-hardware problem before I decide to upgrade my card (which I planned on doing anyway, just not so soon ;P).

I've looked around for solutions from AMD but can't find anything.  If anyone is having the same problem, and either know the solution or at least the cause of the problem, I'd appreciate it if you'd enlighten me.

 Bad RAM?  Bad CPU?  Any good leads for helping to pinpoint the problem would be gratefully accepted.

As it stands, right now I'm spending most of my multiplayer time playing on my sister's new desktop or my dad's laptop, but mostly I would like to play on my own computer, even if it's a little older and has yet to be upgraded much.

[Krantzstone]

[Krantzstone]

One suggestion found here:http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/52482/t1719689-fixes-for-mass-effect-3-crashes-freezes/

Using task manager to change MassEffect3.exe's Set Affinity to only use CPU 0, seems to stabilize things a bit (unless that was just a lucky coincidence): before the above was happening every three seconds that multiplayer became unplayable. Now it's only happening about three times per game.

If anyone can shed any light on this, it would be much appreciated (even if it's just to tell me I need a new video card ;P).

I'll see if I can get Fraps to capture core temps and gpu temp next time it happens, although usually the screen is an entire mess that I'm not sure Fraps will catch much of anything.

[SlipperyHammer]

Have you tried going back to a previous driver for your card? That might help. Altough Im using a Nvidia card, so I'm not 100% how things are on the AMD side.
But whenever I've seen a graphics card do anything of your screenshots, it's mostly "singing a last song" :/.

[Krantzstone]

SlipperyHammer wrote...

Have you tried going back to a previous driver for your card? That might help. Altough Im using a Nvidia card, so I'm not 100% how things are on the AMD side.
But whenever I've seen a graphics card do anything of your screenshots, it's mostly "singing a last song" :/.

Ah, I was afraid of that.  Running Furmark right now, although it seems to glitch out near the end of the 1080p/720 Bench, around when it hits 75 degrees at 100% fan.

AMD Catalyst drivers are the worst, though, so it could very well be that.  The latest iteration is buggy, and mistakenly believes it hasn't been updated even when it has, so it keeps telling me I have an update ready.  I wish I could remember which version ME3 was last stable on.  AMD had a bad habit of releasing a driver update monthly for a while.  I know this was NOT [edit] happening when I first installed the game, and it doesn't seem to do it in single player still, it's just multiplayer.

I'm uploading a Fraps video of exactly what happens onto Youtube... partly to show people what happens, but mostly just because it's a real acid trip. 

/time to go shopping at Newegg.ca, maybe

Modifié par Krantzstone, 27 juin 2012 - 10:21 .

[Tenkari]

Krantzstone wrote...


AMD Catalyst drivers are the worst, though, so it could very well be that.  The latest iteration is buggy, and mistakenly believes it hasn't been updated even when it has, so it keeps telling me I have an update ready.  I wish I could remember which version ME3 was last stable on.  AMD had a bad habit of releasing a driver update monthly for a while.  I know this was NOT [edit] happening when I first installed the game, and it doesn't seem to do it in single player still, it's just multiplayer.

I've never had a problem with AMD cards. they always lasted me longer than NVidia cards. I run an HD 6850 and have never run into what your cards doing. It could also be a heating issue, have you made sure all your bents and such are cleaned and the comp gets good airflow?

Multiplayer puts more of a strain on the cards rather than Single player. In fact i think theres only one part of the game near the end where you really get as much stuff going on in the game in a small space as opposed to multiplayer.

[Krantzstone]

youtu.be/jHt98hflNWI

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Modifié par Krantzstone, 28 juin 2012 - 09:21 .

[Linkforlife]

Hm, my little Radeon 2400 runs MP with minimal troubles, I only get the occassional lag spike, mostly when there are biotic explosions on screen or I go in for a heavy melee attack. I also use an AMD Catalyst driver like Tenkari.

[Krantzstone]

Linkforlife wrote...

Hm, my little Radeon 2400 runs MP with minimal troubles, I only get the occassional lag spike, mostly when there are biotic explosions on screen or I go in for a heavy melee attack. I also use an AMD Catalyst driver like Tenkari.

I'm starting to think it's my 4850 overheating (didn't know this card had major heat issues, even without overclocking).  I went ahead and ordered an Accelero S1 Rev. 2, and hope that will fix it, although I'm worried all that overheating might have damaged the card already.

Anyway, it'll give me something to do while I look for a half-decent card to buy.

[Krantzstone]

Tenkari wrote...

Krantzstone wrote...


AMD Catalyst drivers are the worst, though, so it could very well be that.  The latest iteration is buggy, and mistakenly believes it hasn't been updated even when it has, so it keeps telling me I have an update ready.  I wish I could remember which version ME3 was last stable on.  AMD had a bad habit of releasing a driver update monthly for a while.  I know this was NOT [edit] happening when I first installed the game, and it doesn't seem to do it in single player still, it's just multiplayer.

I've never had a problem with AMD cards. they always lasted me longer than NVidia cards. I run an HD 6850 and have never run into what your cards doing. It could also be a heating issue, have you made sure all your bents and such are cleaned and the comp gets good airflow?

Multiplayer puts more of a strain on the cards rather than Single player. In fact i think theres only one part of the game near the end where you really get as much stuff going on in the game in a small space as opposed to multiplayer.

Yeah, I'm going to open up my case and try cleaning the heatsinks and fan again while I wait for my aftermarket cooler.  My case has lousy airflow though, so really I should get some fans (what I really need is a better case, though), and relocate my tower so there's a bit more airflow around the case.

[SSV Enterprise]

The issue is probably either your card is failing or a faulty driver installation. The latest drivers for your card are the Catalyst 12.4b Hotfix driver:

http://support.amd.c...124bhotfix.aspx
and the 12.6 beta driver:

http://support.amd.c...cyproducts.aspx

You could try doing a clean install of the drivers. Download one of the above driversGo to the Windows Control Panel, click "Programs and Features", right click "AMD Catalyst Install Manager", click "Change", and in the window that pops up:

A. If you are using an Intel processor/chipset, simply select "Express Uninstall ALL AMD software".

B. If you are using an AMD processor/chipset, you have other AMD software that you don't want to remove. So select "Uninstall Manager", click "Custom", and check only the software in this image to uninstall:



After doing either A or B, restart your PC, and install the AMD driver that you downloaded at the start. Then restart again. If the problem persists, your graphics card is probably "singing its last song", as SlipperyHammer put it.

[Krantzstone]

Thanks, I'll try this. I'm starting to think my video RAM is borked, however.

Currently looking for an affordable replacement (preferably AMD, since my motherboard only supports Crossfire).

[XTR3M3]

My Nvidia 560Ti GTX absolutely eats ME3 alive. I am running at 32x AA and 16x AF and it runs smooth as silk at my monitor's 1680x1050 native resolution. Nvidia has optimized drivers for ME3 now so you might consider Nvidia this time. AMD/ATI are not known for user friendly or compatible drivers.

The screenies posted do lead me to believe that the card is on its last legs, getting too hot or not getting sufficient power from your power supply. Good luck with your issue as it is frustrating to not have a PC work right.

[SSV Enterprise]

Literally any graphics card over $100, either from Nvidia or AMD, will eat Mass Effect 3 alive. It's just not a very demanding game; any "optimizations" Nvidia has done for ME3 are irrelevant for a decent graphics card. It would really only matter if you're buying in the $75-$50 range, and AMD usually has much better products than Nvidia in that space.

The idea that Nvidia's drivers are any better than AMD's is a misconception; both can have problems. For example, shortly after Dragon Age II came out Nvidia released a driver that supposedly helped performance -- but ended up causing a game-breaking reproducible crash. It took them a couple months to fix it IIRC.

As far as affordable AMD replacements go, I would recommend either getting a Radeon HD 7770:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127664

Or a Radeon HD 6870:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161389

The 7770 is newer, while the 6870 is significantly faster (they use different processing architectures, so both the clock speed and  "stream processor" numbers are not directly comparable). Both are better than your current 4850 and will power through ME3 no problem.

Here are a couple reviews of the 7770 (and its slower brother the 7750), where they get compared to the 6870 and Nvidia products like the GTX 560 Ti that was mentioned before (mind you, the 560 Ti is much more expensive than the AMD cards)

www.anandtech.com/show/5541/amd-radeon-hd-7750-radeon-hd-7770-ghz-edition-review/

www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135.html

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 13 juillet 2012 - 10:26 .

[Terry Yaki]

Depending on the brand of your 4850, it could very well be on its last breath. My Radeon HD 5770 (Best Data brand) died last year after Dragon Age overheated the hell out of it and probably popped a transistor or capacitor (or two) when I was nearly done with the Witch Hunt DLC.

[SSV Enterprise]

A game overheating your card likely means your card didn't have good cooling to begin with.