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[robarcool]

ryoldschool wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Too many of these threads. Please, make it stop!
On topic: I don't like the damage nerf, but duration nerf is ok, since it adds challenge to reviving. No one can say now that I can revive easily because I played infiltrator (FYI, I don't take duration).

Who would take duration?   Really?  Somebody might do that, but 40% is like going from a Widow I to a Widow 14 gun.

Those who think 5.2s ain't long enough to line up shots. And there are some of them.

[Simbacca]

Not sure if...

5 star means yes to thread title or

agrees with OP...

Kronner wrote...

I love the change. It forces me to think harder and play better.

Yup.  And this

RamsenC wrote...

I find it funny that people are complaining that the best class in the game got nerfed down to still being the best class in the game.

Modifié par Simbacca, 27 juin 2012 - 11:04 .

[Chealec]

ryoldschool wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Too many of these threads. Please, make it stop!
On topic: I don't like the damage nerf, but duration nerf is ok, since it adds challenge to reviving. No one can say now that I can revive easily because I played infiltrator (FYI, I don't take duration).

Who would take duration?   Really?  Somebody might do that, but 40% is like going from a Widow I to a Widow 14 gun.

Me - on my QMI - had duration on that BEFORE the nerf and it was a great build with a shotgun... now, relatively speaking, it's even better - try it sometime, a Graal with inferno ammo should do nicely, the 40% less damage is NOT the end of the world on a shotgun build - even less so when you've got a pocket full of Arc Grenades.

[Ulrich282]

Yes.

[Lord Rosario]

Simbacca wrote...

Not sure if...

5 star means yes to thread title or

agrees with OP...

Kronner wrote...

I love the change. It forces me to think harder and play better.

Yup.  And this

RamsenC wrote...

I find it funny that people are complaining that the best class in the game got nerfed down to still being the best class in the game.

Everytime I see you post it makes me regain some hope for this world's inhabitence.

[Zombie Inc 91]

I'm fine with it pretty much. Means that some of my infies play a bit different from each other now. Maybe went a little too far with the damage reduction, but I'm kinda expecting some sniper buffs in the not too distant future to balance it out a bit and make them better on other classes.

[Simbacca]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Simbacca wrote...

Not sure if...

5 star means yes to thread title or

agrees with OP...

Kronner wrote...

I love the change. It forces me to think harder and play better.

Yup.  And this

RamsenC wrote...

I find it funny that people are complaining that the best class in the game got nerfed down to still being the best class in the game.

Everytime I see you post it makes me regain some hope for this world's inhabitence.

Oh stop it you

And every time I see your name, I wonder if on some off chance you're the same gamer Rosario that is/was friends with a girl I had a brief fling with last summer.

[Kevlar Eater]

I'm not exactly happy it happened. I have no problem adapting at will, and I have little problem topping the scoreboard with anything I use, gimped infilly included.

[Yriss]

As someone whose favourite class is the Infiltrator, especially the Geth Infiltrator, the new changes are fine by me.

I've always taken Duration. (*gasp!* *shock!* *blasphemy!* *noob!*) And my characters are far from being weak or gimped due to my choice in gameplay.

In fact, for my Geth Infiltrator, the changes to Tactical Cloak made no difference to him, since I only took 4 ranks in TC... with the Duration evolution to start with. (the Hunter Mode changes affected him a bit though, but that's off topic) I think I now have 2 seconds less of cloak than before, but that's still quite enough.

[BROxXx]

no

[Permafrost27]

Essian wrote...

 I have to say, I'm a little disappointed with the TC change. The point of infiltrators was to stealth behind the enemy flank  and deal massive damage, but now I have only 5 seconds. Good for closing the gap to a foe without being shot, but it eliminates the tactical decisions. Im not trying to rage, and the skill is still useful, but I feel it was a tad of sn "overnerf"

 There are definitely some people overreacting to this nerd though. It doesn't ruin the class imo (though I only play silver ATM) but it makes the class more generic. I use my shotgun maybe 30% of the time as opposed to like 70% before. Now I rely a lot more on my pistol. Thoughts?

You are only giving yourself 5 seconds. It's entirely possible to have 11ish, which is ages in this game.

And yes, I'm thrilled with the changes. I'm the ****hole who likes game balance, reports missile glitchers, and for the most part does not revive Krysae users.

[ZoM_Head]

I don't.

I rarely use a sniper rifle with Infiltrator class.

Pick up a claymore or N7 Cruisaider and flank flank flank.

Now it is usless to revive fallen team mates, disable indoctornation boosters etc.

As mentioned above me, they should had looked into the power damage bonus/sniper rifle.

This is the problem, too many people complain about something that was fine being OP. Yet here we have a seriously OP Geth and just a few are complaining. I saw more threads on TC being nerfed than Geth being able to fire rockets across the map and through walls for example.

classes all seem just fine before they nerfed the TC. Heck i do not play infiltrator that much, im usually a soldier/eng/vangaurd. Heck, where are the threads on the horrible vangaurds that glitch through maps and keep falling? THOSE issues should be resolved first, THEN look into adjusting powers. The amount of times the biotic charge bugged out on me, forcing me to end a game is countless.

Like any other game, if you complain enough, devs take it too far, TC is useless now, thanks to you complainers. Or, you just hate being second, 3rd or 4th on the board and want those TC users to suffer? seriously? XP means nothing to me, credits (which the WHOLE squad shares) is where it is at.

Bioware, return TC back to how it was, it is fine! adjust something else in it.

Modifié par ZoM_Head, 28 juin 2012 - 08:21 .

[ZoM_Head]

robarcool wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Too many of these threads. Please, make it stop!
On topic: I don't like the damage nerf, but duration nerf is ok, since it adds challenge to reviving. No one can say now that I can revive easily because I played infiltrator (FYI, I don't take duration).

Who would take duration?   Really?  Somebody might do that, but 40% is like going from a Widow I to a Widow 14 gun.

Those who think 5.2s ain't long enough to line up shots. And there are some of them.

5.2s is not enough to help the team to activate coms or other objectives. Neither is it enough to revive a team mate in the middle of a storm.

Not all player who us TC use a sniper rifle, i rarely use one, i pick up a shot gun (claymore or N7 Cruise).

[audicdm]

I would have kept the initial damage to 50% and reduce the rank 4 to 20-30%. Changes as they are definitely makes me think more of how I level up and spec my individual Infiltrator races. I've tested and used a couple of reset cards already so the change is working as intended to create a tough "either or" choice for players to match the power trees of most every other ability in the game.

Even the rank 6 choice is more competitive now.

[sheppard7]

I'm happy with any change that upsets people who use the letter 'U' in place of the word "YOU"

[joker_jack]

The thing is this will not be enough for the nerfs. Already seeing calls for nerfs on grenade gear, the arc grenade, hell even further gimps to be. It's never enough.

[raynebc]

It doesn't make too much difference for me now except that I have to actually rely on squad mates to keep the heat off me during device disable objectives.

[Permafrost27]

1) If you can't top the scoreboard with a Duration-spec'd Infiltrator, that's your own fault. The only other classes that offer nearly as much innate offensive power are Human Soldiers and Grenade Capacity users, both of whom are going to be seriously dependent on Ammo boxes / clips.

2) If topping the scoreboard doesn't matter in the first place, because "we're all just here for the credits" or "its a coop game" or whatever your line of choice is, what does it matter that TC changes prevent you from topping the scoreboard- which does not even matter. ?

3) The idea that nerfers cried for TC reduction because they could never be #1 is hilarious on so many levels I couldn't possibly address it concisely. I absolutely agree that this was true for a small amount of vocal whiners, but you can say that about any aspect of any game. Most people wanted it done because they want a reason to play other classes and / or find easymode classes boring.

Modifié par Permafrost27, 28 juin 2012 - 08:39 .

[AwesomeDudex64]

Damage nerf was fine but duration was beaten to death.

[DHKany]

To make duration more appealing i think they should add a slight damage boost to the duration. Nothing much 10-15 percent maybe?

[Immortal Strife]

I love the changes

1. Too much utility, fixed
2. TC negated weight, fixed
3. Too much damage, fixed
4. Not enough variety, fixed

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 28 juin 2012 - 08:47 .

[xtorma]

No , actually I am not "happy" about it, but like any other nerf , in any other game, You drive on, unless it just totally puts you off, then you quit. For me it's a done deal. time to move on.

[Alros Faevar]

Imho they should have nerfed base damage more and Sniper damage less though that makes it harder to balance SRs.
I think having to choose between duration and damage is a good thing, just don't really understand the SR-damage nerf. I thought Shotgun infiltrators to be a bigger concern on gold than SR-Infiltrators

[Buff204wpg]

I hate those crybaby nerfers all smug now .

[ChurchOfZod]

I will laugh when the Phoenix Vanguard and the entire Adept class gets put on the chopping block next by a bunch of crying washerwomen.