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[Lord Goose]

No it won't. The EC took a huge dump on IT and flushed it down the toilet, yet people still don't let it go. It's moronic.

You fail to grasp the obvious. IT isn't just an set of evidence or the people behind it. Indoctrination Theory is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed.

[aksoileau]

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

They definitely gave it a headshot, but they didn't double tap.

[SirCroft]

I always thought some of the IT evidence was grasping at straws, many of its evidences were mere design oversights (Walking through the keepers, keepers using consoles that aren't there, infinite ammo, pistols switching back and forth between Predator and Carnifex) and others that might've been good ones (squadmates "teleporting" to the Normandy, Shepard waking up in London - clearly, now, it's indeed the Citadel, which is just damaged and not entirely destroyed) have been explained by EC.
IT was a fantastic theory to cover some of the plot-holes, but once they've been covered by other means, it loses its value. It's barely believable now, if at all.

Modifié par SirCroft, 27 juin 2012 - 08:37 .

[Judas Bock]

Why does everyone keep going on about how obvious it is that IT is dead? It's not. Some things that were used as part of IT have been explained in a literal way (crew on Normandy), but most points still stand. The extended endings could just be an extended hallucination by Shepard.

In the destroy ending the Shepard lives scene even takes place after all the extra ending slides. This means that it is still possible that everything we see before that is part of the hallucination and that is when Shepard wakes up and lives to fight another day, just like in pre-EC IT.

So stop saying that IT is dead. EC didn't confirm it one way or the other, just like Bioware said it wouldn't. Both IT and a literal interpretation are viable interpretations.

[XxDarkTimexX]

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

if they were trying to kill it they would get rid of these plot holes

1. The dreams are still the same, with the affects of indoctriation still there. Why do everytime i get close to the boy he runs off and i hear reaper growls or sounds that reapers make.

2. The three beams that changes reapers are still there and if you look at the galaxy map and the three endings both ec and not ec still show it but its not the local cluster where the choices were made.

3. Why is Sheperd waking up if he is already dead. Also why does destroy ending the only ending that shepard lives.

4. Why does the camera still show the gun shot he got just seconds after anderson dies.

[Jeremy Winston]

Regarding TIM:

Another plot-hole, in my opinion. There was never any evidence that Cerberus had found technology to control unindoctrinated people. Sanctuary was about learning the radio signals to take over Reaper/Husk communications. It doesn't apply to normal people.

Modifié par Jeremy Winston, 27 juin 2012 - 08:38 .

[Sohlito]

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Gotta go for the head, thats how you bring'em down for good.

[nitefyre410]

aksoileau wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

They definitely gave it a headshot, but they didn't double tap.

 

Always double tap... or use a shotgun...sometimes doulbe tap with a shotgun.  

Did not Bioware learn anything from Benny in Fallout: New Vegas... He should have double tapped.  

[Tealjaker94]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Can you answer my question? Are you seriously expecting bioware to release another dlc to change the ending to IT? If not, then what the hell is the goddamn point in looking for "evidence?"

I'll try one last time.

[XxDarkTimexX]

yes i saw it but it still doesn't answer why at the end of the EC ending they show shepard waking up, if i were to put that in real time that would be 1-9 months before he woke up that still doesn't make sense that he wakes up after, between1 month to 9 months he wakes up again. WHAT!!!!

[shurryy]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND!?

I've impaled this theory with a wooden stake through the heart!
I've lit it on fire!
I've shotgunned it to the face!
I've sniped it from afar when it was unsuspecting!
I've poured salt around it in hopes that it would be trapped!
I've blown it to pieces with plastic explosives!
I've smashed it with a sledgehammer!
I even went as far as to bathe it in acid!

Why doesn't this abomination die?! Is it more powerful than any paranormal entity we have ever faced? Are we facing our own doom?!

ITS TOO STRONG!!!

[10K]

The sound when Shepard opens his eyes could just be the sound of s/he implants. The IT is dead, I liked the idea of it but sadly it's been debunked. Move on.

[Jeremy Winston]

The whole thing doesn't really make sense... why make him live through what, for all appearances, is a sub-par ending, according to BioWare? Why not make that the big payoff for their favorite, Synthesis?

[Cecilia L]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Can you answer my question? Are you seriously expecting bioware to release another dlc to change the ending to IT? If not, then what the hell is the goddamn point in looking for "evidence?"

I'll try one last time.

Hopefully big announcements at comic con.

[Cecilia L]

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

yes i saw it but it still doesn't answer why at the end of the EC ending they show shepard waking up, if i were to put that in real time that would be 1-9 months before he woke up that still doesn't make sense that he wakes up after, between1 month to 9 months he wakes up again. WHAT!!!!

Very interesting point!

[kaotician]

Lord Goose wrote...

No it won't. The EC took a huge dump on IT and flushed it down the toilet, yet people still don't let it go. It's moronic.

You fail to grasp the obvious. IT isn't just an set of evidence or the people behind it. Indoctrination Theory is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed.

Well, no idea gets destroyed. The idea that the earth is flat is still just an idea, and you can't destroy an idea. The discarding of IT then isn't dependant on 'destroying' it in some way; it's that the evidence suggests that it's most unlikely to be true. Thus, the idea that an idea is not so easily destroyed is somehow a proof of its' veracity can be seen to be false.

[Tealjaker94]

Cecilia L wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Can you answer my question? Are you seriously expecting bioware to release another dlc to change the ending to IT? If not, then what the hell is the goddamn point in looking for "evidence?"

I'll try one last time.

Hopefully big announcements at comic con.

If you're being serious, I truly pity you.

[Jeremy Winston]

WTF? The Earth's not flat?

Lemme tell my folks!

[XxDarkTimexX]

Saren is indoctriated all tho mass effect 1, only people that have indoctriation with reaper tech in them would have the eyes but with indoctriation and no reaper tech in you means no eyes

[kaotician]

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

if they were trying to kill it they would get rid of these plot holes

1. The dreams are still the same, with the affects of indoctriation still there. Why do everytime i get close to the boy he runs off and i hear reaper growls or sounds that reapers make.

2. The three beams that changes reapers are still there and if you look at the galaxy map and the three endings both ec and not ec still show it but its not the local cluster where the choices were made.

3. Why is Sheperd waking up if he is already dead. Also why does destroy ending the only ending that shepard lives.

4. Why does the camera still show the gun shot he got just seconds after anderson dies.

You've been answered on this exact quote multiple times on other threads. What's the matter with you?

[Hakumen]

Damn, people still talk about Indoctrination Theory?

[aksoileau]

Judas Bock wrote...

Why does everyone keep going on about how obvious it is that IT is dead? It's not. Some things that were used as part of IT have been explained in a literal way (crew on Normandy), but most points still stand. The extended endings could just be an extended hallucination by Shepard.

In the destroy ending the Shepard lives scene even takes place after all the extra ending slides. This means that it is still possible that everything we see before that is part of the hallucination and that is when Shepard wakes up and lives to fight another day, just like in pre-EC IT.

So stop saying that IT is dead. EC didn't confirm it one way or the other, just like Bioware said it wouldn't. Both IT and a literal interpretation are viable interpretations.

People are saying IT is dead because it is in fact dead.  BioWare just doesn't want to have another PR disaster by breaking some hearts.  BioWare does not have a canon ending for ME3.  All 4 major endings are 100% real endings that are all equally important.  By saying IT is real, you are negating the people who want control or synthesis.  BioWare will not support that.  All endings were given equal time on the EC.

[Cecilia L]

 Why is everyone in this thread so hateful towards those of us who want to believe in something better?

Modifié par Cecilia L, 27 juin 2012 - 08:54 .

[keeveek2]

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

You can't kill something that was dead all the time.

The problem with conspiracy theories is that either they say "there is no conspiracy" or "there is a conspiracy" -> they both mean that there is a conspiracy, for the believers.

[XxDarkTimexX]

kaotician wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

It just won't ****ing die will it?

Blame Bioware. They didn't definitively kill it enough with the EC, so it continues to exist.

if they were trying to kill it they would get rid of these plot holes

1. The dreams are still the same, with the affects of indoctriation still there. Why do everytime i get close to the boy he runs off and i hear reaper growls or sounds that reapers make.

2. The three beams that changes reapers are still there and if you look at the galaxy map and the three endings both ec and not ec still show it but its not the local cluster where the choices were made.

3. Why is Sheperd waking up if he is already dead. Also why does destroy ending the only ending that shepard lives.

4. Why does the camera still show the gun shot he got just seconds after anderson dies.

You've been answered on this exact quote multiple times on other threads. What's the matter with you?

yeah sorry about but those are the ones that make IT still alive but don't worry in a few mins i'm geting off anyways 4 class