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[Oldbones2]

If these endings had been on the disk to start with, I would have called them an acceptable (though ultimately unworthy end to the trilogy. Control is F'ing awesome now!).

However, they killed the franchise with the Catalyst, and the three month wait (for ten minutes of new stuff, please.) really made me not care anymore.

I just want BW to square up with an apology or an admission of fault. ME is kinda dead to me now. Very sad.

[Renmiri1]

No

I think EC was good enough to make me want to finish the game. Not good enough to replay it. Thane LI story arch was treated shabbily and I have no interest in seeing it again, nor were the endings good enough to justify a second play through.

[Bomma72]

After seeing Sheppard refusal speech Yes.

[Haji1096]

The EC was a small improvement. No final boss battle, the introduction of a completely new character at the end of the game, lack of our choices in the first two games actually impacting the ending.

I still can't understand how the whole trilogy was written so well up until the ending. What the hell happened ? What QA tester reviewed the ending at said: "This is ok."

Why were they wasting time on MP when they could have used those resources on a better ending ?

[Chrislo1990]

Haji1096 wrote...

The EC was a small improvement. No final boss battle, the introduction of a completely new character at the end of the game, lack of our choices in the first two games actually impacting the ending.

I still can't understand how the whole trilogy was written so well up until the ending. What the hell happened ? What QA tester reviewed the ending at said: "This is ok."

Why were they wasting time on MP when they could have used those resources on a better ending ?

Simple. To milk the hell out of the game. Profits my friend. It's all about profits. Apparently Bioware cares more about sucking their consumers dry than they do about  delivering a a high quality product through extensive testing and review. Bioware really disappointed me. They've changed so much ever since EA got theri greedy hands on them.  ughh

[ZackG312]

No I had a problem with The star child last time I checked he is still there.

[GreyhameBioware]

It's an improvement. I'll probably play the game again at some point without feeling like that nothing I do matters. But I ultimately don't think that they are good endings, but acceptable endings.

[AlphaDormante]

The EC made me care about ME again. It took that empty space where there used to be so much richness and awe and filled it back up.

I still don't like the endings, but there's no longer an ache whenever I look back at the ME franchise. And that's enough for me, because that feeling is the worst thing in the freakin world.

[G Kevin]

It makes me like Mass Effect again but not the level of how it was pre-ME3 ending or pre-ME3 for that matter.

AlphaDormante wrote...

I still don't like the endings, but there's no longer an ache whenever I look back at the ME franchise. And that's enough for me, because that feeling is the worst thing in the freakin world.

 

Agreed.

So glad it's gone.

Modifié par G Kevin, 28 juin 2012 - 04:11 .

[nikola8]

Chrislo1990 wrote...

Haji1096 wrote...

The EC was a small improvement. No final boss battle, the introduction of a completely new character at the end of the game, lack of our choices in the first two games actually impacting the ending.

I still can't understand how the whole trilogy was written so well up until the ending. What the hell happened ? What QA tester reviewed the ending at said: "This is ok."

Why were they wasting time on MP when they could have used those resources on a better ending ?

Simple. To milk the hell out of the game. Profits my friend. It's all about profits. Apparently Bioware cares more about sucking their consumers dry than they do about  delivering a a high quality product through extensive testing and review. Bioware really disappointed me. They've changed so much ever since EA got theri greedy hands on them.  ughh

It isn't all about profits.  The EC was FREE.  The amount of money that Bioware/EA had to spend to get the voice actors, programmers, writers, and directors back was probably at least a few million in production costs.  Bioware/EA ate that cost entirely by not charging for the EC.

To answer the OP: the EC did make me like the game better- the biggest thing it did for me was villainize the Reapers.  In the original cut, the star child portrays the Reapers as somehow helping us by destroying us (twisted convoluted logic, but it seemed as though they were saying "we're here to help by destroying you").  The EC portrays the star child as a rogue AI, who turned on his makers, and therefore his logic doesn't have to make any sense.  That small change in perception was really important.  They could cut out the rest of the EC for me-  making the Reapers "more bad" was something I really appreciated.

[Felis Menari]

No rekindling here. All EC did was add in what should have been there in the first place. So...I'm no longer upset that the endings are incomplete, since that is not the case anymore. I am still annoyed with Bioware's continued ambiguity though.

[tomcplotts]

no, but that wasn't its purpose. the point of the EC was, frankly, to finish the doggone game once they got called out on it. in that purpose, the EC was successful. it's stilla mediocre finish, but it IS a finish.

[Icesong]

It didn't but I feel like I can replay through the series again which should rekindle it once I do.

[Lethlis]

Didnt mind the ending as much as I minded the missing gaps in what happened. They have addressed these points and I am now quite happy with them. I can replay the games again, need to do my loyal to liara playthrough

[Sesshaku]

No, they still kill the mood for me. I just hate the way the ended it. And I'm really not that interested on future games....i mean.....what can they possibly do?- A next Mass Effect game will have to deal with this two issues:

1º: I don't trust them anymore, as far as im concerned, i have no reason to invest my time on a franchise that i will learn to love right until the end were stupid budgets issues and end dates ruins it on a crappy ending.
2º: Even if they learned from they terrible, TERRIBLE mistake, what story and what character could i possible care after Shepard?. I mean, what can they offer us that doesn't feel like a poor remake?.
I sincerely think that i will just not care about any other ME game, not at least for a couple of years.
Replacing Shepard it's like .... i don't know, replacing Gordon Freeman.

[scrapmetals]

The EC only did one thing to me.

It gutted me a second time. 

[DRTJR]

When I return from my Fantasy RPG binge I will replay Mass Effect 1-3, for great justice.

[xI extremist Ix]

Sesshaku wrote...

No, they still kill the mood for me. I just hate the way the ended it. And I'm really not that interested on future games....i mean.....what can they possibly do?- A next Mass Effect game will have to deal with this two issues:

1º: I don't trust them anymore, as far as im concerned, i have no reason to invest my time on a franchise that i will learn to love right until the end were stupid budgets issues and end dates ruins it on a crappy ending.
2º: Even if they learned from they terrible, TERRIBLE mistake, what story and what character could i possible care after Shepard?. I mean, what can they offer us that doesn't feel like a poor remake?.
I sincerely think that i will just not care about any other ME game, not at least for a couple of years.
Replacing Shepard it's like .... i don't know, replacing Gordon Freeman.

[Chrislo1990]

nikola8 wrote...

Chrislo1990 wrote...

Haji1096 wrote...

The EC was a small improvement. No final boss battle, the introduction of a completely new character at the end of the game, lack of our choices in the first two games actually impacting the ending.

I still can't understand how the whole trilogy was written so well up until the ending. What the hell happened ? What QA tester reviewed the ending at said: "This is ok."

Why were they wasting time on MP when they could have used those resources on a better ending ?

Simple. To milk the hell out of the game. Profits my friend. It's all about profits. Apparently Bioware cares more about sucking their consumers dry than they do about  delivering a a high quality product through extensive testing and review. Bioware really disappointed me. They've changed so much ever since EA got theri greedy hands on them.  ughh

It isn't all about profits.  The EC was FREE.  The amount of money that Bioware/EA had to spend to get the voice actors, programmers, writers, and directors back was probably at least a few million in production costs.  Bioware/EA ate that cost entirely by not charging for the EC.

To answer the OP: the EC did make me like the game better- the biggest thing it did for me was villainize the Reapers.  In the original cut, the star child portrays the Reapers as somehow helping us by destroying us (twisted convoluted logic, but it seemed as though they were saying "we're here to help by destroying you").  The EC portrays the star child as a rogue AI, who turned on his makers, and therefore his logic doesn't have to make any sense.  That small change in perception was really important.  They could cut out the rest of the EC for me-  making the Reapers "more bad" was something I really appreciated.

No I'm, referring to the game as it was shipped out originally. They obviously added MP just to try and extract more money. It wasn't something that we were dying to have you know. We were perfectly ok with a single player experience. IN fact, we becasme very concerended that the resources required to develop the mp would affect the single player. Bioware obviously denied this but in the end, we were right. They simply rushed at the end of development. Now from what I can remember Gamble saif that EA would give Bioware some leeway. If that were the case, why didn't they ask for more time. What's the hurry to release the game when it's clearly not finished? Why add multiplayer when the funds could have been used to perfect the story?

[ohbarf]

No. I've discovered that, while I'm playing anything ME related now, everything essentially serves as a reminder of what the series could have amounted to and ultimately fell short of.

There are so many really awesome aspects of ME1, 2, and even 3 - right up to the end - that all could have played into the ending of the series. There are so very many ways that it all could have come to a close and instead, we got.. well, what we got. As others have so eloquently put it, the EC is definitely a polished turd. It doesn't really help.

It's obvious that it was a comfort or even a significant improvement in some peoples' eyes, and that's fine. That's clearly what was needed, and even Bioware stated that not everyone would be happy with the series.

The one nice thing about it is that it makes it easy to divorce myself from the series and the company. It really breaks my heart, because I know there'll be more DLC, but it's gonna be more of that junk that's supposed to fit into the game that we already finished (not to mention a series that already finished). I don't want them to poke any more weird holes in the plot and lore.

If Bioware finally gives up trying to make "deep" and "artistic" video game experiences and just releases an alien dating sim, then I'll start giving them money again.

[TheSnappyDude]

yes it did while it wasn't perfect and honestly the whole game still isn't that great now I can just write it off as a bad game and still accept it as part of the series. I still will be waiting for fan reviews or renting all future bioware games. But I am proud of what they did and can play the series now.

[CronoDragoon]

Yep. Just started my second playthrough and looking forward to Leviathan DLC. Can't believe it.

[leondes1]

For me personally, yes it did. It brought back all the feels I had before. I plan on playing it through again beginning this week.

However, bioware needs to learn from this. Those endings should have been there in the first place.

[Zuka999]

"16 wildly different endings" is still a lie.