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[What a Succulent Ass]

...I don't think this means the greybx became sapient, only that Kasumi is with Keiji's holo in the green ending.

But if it does, I'm just gonna pretend I didn't read that.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 06 juillet 2012 - 09:20 .

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Call me when Mike and Casey leave Bioware because honestly I think this is the only way the Mass Effect IP will ever go back on track

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

[Xilizhra]

Excellent. This seems to confirm my theory that Shepard can return if she has a greybox made. If that's the case, and it's updated before leaving the Normandy that last time, all Shepard will be missing is the memories of the final Earth mission, especially if she's uploaded into a new body. Hell, with the current applications of Synthesis, she might even still be able to have children with Liara in that form, and could well actually live long enough to see even higher forms of directed evolution arise. The implications here are actually quite lovely.

[The Angry One]

Xilizhra wrote...

Excellent. This seems to confirm my theory that Shepard can return if she has a greybox made. If that's the case, and it's updated before leaving the Normandy that last time, all Shepard will be missing is the memories of the final Earth mission, especially if she's uploaded into a new body. Hell, with the current applications of Synthesis, she might even still be able to have children with Liara in that form, and could well actually live long enough to see even higher forms of directed evolution arise. The implications here are actually quite lovely.

She'll have to compete with the several thousand Shepard VI copies that just became sentient.

[Reptilian Rob]

Best part?

All the husks get the live! That way you can stare and that thing that killed your family all day!

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Holy ****bird! That's what Liara was doing with her "gift"! Gathering all of Shepard's memories, and now Liara is going to meld with a Grey Box and upload them into it. Like a memory shard, but only Shepard. Wow. Then the thing become sapient in the synthesis ending, and we build a robot body for Shepard, and install the shard into it.

[Xilizhra]

The Angry One wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Excellent. This seems to confirm my theory that Shepard can return if she has a greybox made. If that's the case, and it's updated before leaving the Normandy that last time, all Shepard will be missing is the memories of the final Earth mission, especially if she's uploaded into a new body. Hell, with the current applications of Synthesis, she might even still be able to have children with Liara in that form, and could well actually live long enough to see even higher forms of directed evolution arise. The implications here are actually quite lovely.

She'll have to compete with the several thousand Shepard VI copies that just became sentient.

Unlikely. They don't have Shepard's memories, just programs to badly imitate her. If they become sapient, they'll likely diverge into their own personalities rather different from the original Shepard. Greyboxes are different because they're nothing but memory, and identity is primarily a function of memory.

Holy ****bird! That's what Liara was doing with her "gift"! Gathering
all of Shepard's memories, and now Liara is going to meld with a Grey
Box and upload them into it. Like a memory shard, but only Shepard. Wow.
Then the thing become sapient in the synthesis ending, and we build a
robot body for Shepard, and install the shard into it.

I'm clearly a complete idiot. That works even better than my original thought.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 06 juillet 2012 - 09:28 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

So, basically, Shepard doesn't die anyway.

TAKE THAT ARTISTIC BUT CLICHED DRAMATICS

[Xilizhra]

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

So, basically, Shepard doesn't die anyway.

TAKE THAT ARTISTIC BUT CLICHED DRAMATICS

Exactly. Victory.

[The Angry One]

Yes yes everybody's happy in synthesis. Even the human Reaper came back to life and now parties on the Citadel.

[Grubas]

People demanded to know what happens to the characters in the aftermatch, so yeah Kazumi is still holding onto her memories. Shes got this greybox with a holo of Keiji, because she can't let go.
Zaeed on the other hand retired, as hinted in ME2.

[What a Succulent Ass]

The Angry One wrote...

She'll have to compete with the several thousand Shepard VI copies that just became sentient.

OH MY GOD SHEPARD ORGY

THIS IS LIKE A LIARA PARADISE

ALL OF MY THROWUPS AND LAUGHTER

[Xilizhra]

Yes yes everybody's happy in synthesis. Even the human Reaper came back to life and now parties on the Citadel.

So you see? Galaxy-altering decisions made under the influence of heavy wounds and insane anti-logic can work out. The only minor nuisance is the memorial scene, but as usual, I think someone didn't think it through.

[General User]

The Kasumi-Keiji slide is easily one of the most disturbing aspects of Synthesis.

Kasumi's like a woman whose family has died so she shuts herself in with her old photo albums. A very sad life.

[Xilizhra]

General User wrote...

The Kasumi-Keiji slide is easily one of the most disturbing aspects of Synthesis.

Kasumi's like a woman whose family has died so she shuts herself in with her old photo albums. A very sad life.

Not when they become actual people again. Or, well, he does.

[Lionel Ou]

RustyMcBlade wrote...

First of all, Im ok with the new destroy and control endings. They are aright and improve the broken endings of the the past.

But synthesis... Oh brother.

Heres one of the many facts about synthesis that pissed me off. Some of you guys saw Kasumi and Keiji back together during the slideshows of the green ending, remember? What the hell was that about? Can you bring people back to life because of some recorded memories and awesome green light? Well, turns out.. YOU CAN! AWESOME DISNEY ENDING EVERYBODY!

Heres the link:
https://twitter.com/...075764212506624

I watched that slide and thought... what is going on? Is that actually Keiji coming back to "life"? No, that would be so incredibly idiotic it can't possibly be so.
Now I found out that's exactly what happens?

[Applepie_Svk]

Xilizhra wrote...

Excellent. This seems to confirm my theory that Shepard can return if she has a greybox made. If that's the case, and it's updated before leaving the Normandy that last time, all Shepard will be missing is the memories of the final Earth mission, especially if she's uploaded into a new body. Hell, with the current applications of Synthesis, she might even still be able to have children with Liara in that form, and could well actually live long enough to see even higher forms of directed evolution arise. The implications here are actually quite lovely.

So even control can ressurect with little space magic Shepard because his greybox are now Reapers .... applaud ... /clap clap
Blue and Green endings are full of shine and friendship with species which was hunting us for 3 games.... welcome in Disney Land

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 06 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .

[Xilizhra]

Wait, what did I do there?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Given this outcome ... I might change my mind and choose Synthesis! Drink the green Kool Aid. And it technically isn't a "robot body". It's a Hybrid body. So Shepard comes back looking exactly like Shepard, but more like EDI, well, unless it's a male Shepard of course, but you get the idea.

Take the name off that wall Liara!!! And wipe that frown off that face. I'm surprised EDI hasn't mentioned that to her yet. Oh, and at least give Shepard some decent dance moves.

And..... we'll do this not because it makes any sense.

But because "art"

[Xilizhra]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Given this outcome ... I might change my mind and choose Synthesis! Drink the green Kool Aid. And it technically isn't a "robot body". It's a Hybrid body. So Shepard comes back looking exactly like Shepard, but more like EDI, well, unless it's a male Shepard of course, but you get the idea.

Take the name off that wall Liara!!! And wipe that frown off that face. I'm surprised EDI hasn't mentioned that to her yet. Oh, and at least give Shepard some decent dance moves.

And..... we'll do this not because it makes any sense.

But because "art"

Would this form work for having any little blue (or green-tinged) children, do you think?

[General User]

Xilizhra wrote...

General User wrote...

The Kasumi-Keiji slide is easily one of the most disturbing aspects of Synthesis.

Kasumi's like a woman whose family has died so she shuts herself in with her old photo albums. A very sad life.

Not when they become actual people again. Or, well, he does.

Think about that for a minute.  They wouldn't be becoming actual people again, they'd be becoming actual people for the first time.  And those new people might not want to live as shut-ins.

[Ryoten]

WHAT!?! HUH??!? HOW....WTF!?!?

I cant even form a coherent statement of the complete absurdity of kasumis b/f coming back to life who is just a memory in a computer.....

UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY HEAD!

[Applepie_Svk]

Ryoten wrote...

WHAT!?! HUH??!? HOW....WTF!?!?

I cant even form a coherent statement of the complete absurdity of kasumis b/f coming back to life who is just a memory in a computer.....

UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY HEAD!

With synthesis even your toaster will speak...

[Xilizhra]

Think about that for a minute. They wouldn't be becoming actual people again, they'd be becoming actual people for the first time. And those new people might not want to live as shut-ins.

Your opinion on them not being the same people isn't really provable either way, because if souls exist, we don't know how they work. Ultimately it's irrelevant. And they can move around if they have new bodies to upload into.

I cant even form a coherent statement of the complete absurdity of kasumis b/f coming back to life who is just a memory in a computer.....

What are we if not memories in flesh?