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Father_Jerusalem wrote...

"Michael Gamble ‏@GambleMike

@wetnasty It was a quarian Kasumi should be with Keiji in synthesis."

I... fail to see how that actually says anything you say that it says. "Should" is not, in any way, a confirmation. It is a belief.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

[Ieldra]

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

[Chaia]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Quick, someone get the Shepard VI. He can be a real boy now!

LOL Shepard lives....again! 


Actully that does make me wonder what can happen with the Shepard VI now, after all, with Shepard dead a second time Liara is probably going to be feeling pretty loney now <_<

[Ryzaki]

Chaia wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Quick, someone get the Shepard VI. He can be a real boy now!

LOL Shepard lives....again! 


Actully that does make me wonder what can happen with the Shepard VI now, after all, with Shepard dead a second time Liara is probably going to be feeling pretty loney now <_<

...honestly Shep VI somehow giving Shep life again wouldn't surprise me at this point.

[Ingvarr Stormbird]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

So, does this mean that Shepard could be seen as alive too? Because, you know, everybody kind of received his copy in Synthesis?

[Megachaz]

So if synthesis turns dead people into ghosts.... well... that's not good.

[Mr.House]

Thanks alot OP, now I think I'm going to throw up again like I did when I saw merge EC ending...

[morrie23]

That can't be right...

[Galbrant]

Ugh... looks like I have to get Kasumi killed in ME2 to save her from a unhealthy relationship from a copy of her lost lover.

[Gexora]

Wait, wait, wait
How the hell does the tweet in question imply "Keiji is still alive" scenario?
It just clarifies what slide is one for Kasumi

[DistantUtopia]

Hmm...If Kenji came back as a Hologram, why can't Shepard?

LI Reunions all around!

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

 

Problem... I don't have a problem... I just thinks its funny thats all.  Any problems with whole endings issue died yesterday.... it is what it is now . 

[NoUserNameHere]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

It's silly because it's one step short of the rainbows and unicons ending the pro-ending crowd was despising two weeks ago. 

[RustyMcBlade]

Logan Cloud wrote...

I didn't even know who the hell Keiji was untill I read some of the posts here. He's so damn forgetable, why would you even care?

Hell, Im the OP and even I agree with that! Why did Bioware even care to show this guy? Let him go and keep the weird stuff away, dammit

[Demoiselle]

Gexora wrote...

Wait, wait, wait
How the hell does the tweet in question imply "Keiji is still alive" scenario?
It just clarifies what slide is one for Kasumi

BSN logic. 

[Ryzaki]

Demoiselle wrote...

Gexora wrote...

Wait, wait, wait
How the hell does the tweet in question imply "Keiji is still alive" scenario?
It just clarifies what slide is one for Kasumi

BSN logic. 

Yeah how about you actually compare the slide to her control/destroy one before trying to be clever. She clearly uses holographic interfaces (as well as the actual greybox) every other time she interacts with the memories of Keiji. (and in both the control and destroy endings she's clearly holding the greybox while it glows as she interacts with the memories). There's little reason for Synthesis to be different [since Keiji's not an AI but merely a collection of memories with her along with a final message] (even EDI has a holographic interface covering her eyes as well as an actual black box her core is stored in.) Unless the hologram turned into something else.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2012 - 09:41 .

[Siran]

I actually liked that still-frame between Kasumi and Keiji. If Synthesis really is the pinnacle of evolution than why can't it bring someone whose almost entire memories are recorded back to life, it's there in digital form, just needs a vessel, be it holographic or in form of Eva.

But then again, I also like many Disney movies, so what do I know.

[Iakus]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

It's silly because it's one step short of the rainbows and unicons ending the pro-ending crowd was despising two weeks ago. 

It is rainbows and unicorns.  It was mocked that Shepard surviving would be that, but here we have an ending where a guy who has been dead for years is now somehow reincarnated from his own recorded memories.

And Shep, best case scenerio, still gets to gasp one breath in a pile of debris  

Modifié par iakus, 27 juin 2012 - 09:43 .

[RustyMcBlade]

Ryzaki wrote...

Demoiselle wrote...

Gexora wrote...

Wait, wait, wait
How the hell does the tweet in question imply "Keiji is still alive" scenario?
It just clarifies what slide is one for Kasumi

BSN logic. 

Yeah how about you actually compare the slide to her control/destroy one before trying to be clever. She clearly uses holographic interfaces (as well as the actual greybox) every other time she interacts with the memories of Keiji. There's no reason for Synthesis to be different (even EDI has a holographic interface covering her eyes as well as an actual black box her core is stored in.) Unless the hologram turned into something else.

Yep.

[Ieldra]

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

So, does this mean that Shepard could be seen as alive too? Because, you know, everybody kind of received his copy in Synthesis?

TIM voice: "A significant hurdle". Shepard's thoughts and memories were dispersed. I've envisioned that at the time of Synthesis, various people all over the galaxy experience fragments of Shepard's thoughts and memories. I think a Shepard coming back scenario should stay strictly in headcanon territory. Impossible? No. Life is information after all. But plausible? In no way. 

[Ryzaki]

iakus wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

It's silly because it's one step short of the rainbows and unicons ending the pro-ending crowd was despising two weeks ago. 

It is rainbows and unicorns.  It was mocked that Shepard surviving would be that, but here we have an ending where a guy who has been dead for years is now somehow reincarnated from his own recorded memories.

And Shep, best case scenerio, still gets to gasp in a pile od debris  

Exactly. The arguement that Shep can't reunite with his LIs because it's too "chessy" is utterly ridculous once you take into account Synthesis which is the very epitome of cheese.

[Demoiselle]

iakus wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

It's silly because it's one step short of the rainbows and unicons ending the pro-ending crowd was despising two weeks ago. 

It is rainbows and unicorns.  It was mocked that Shepard surviving would be that, but here we have an ending where a guy who has been dead for years is now somehow reincarnated from his own recorded memories.

And Shep, best case scenerio, still gets to gasp in a pile od debris  

Only from his memories - it's not EXACTLY him coming back to life. For all we know it's just Kasumi being able to  connect more with the graybox memories after synthesis, and nothing to do with him at all. 

Squicky and aw at the same time. For me, anyway.

Modifié par Demoiselle, 27 juin 2012 - 09:45 .

[Ryzaki]

Demoiselle wrote...

iakus wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

It's silly because it's one step short of the rainbows and unicons ending the pro-ending crowd was despising two weeks ago. 

It is rainbows and unicorns.  It was mocked that Shepard surviving would be that, but here we have an ending where a guy who has been dead for years is now somehow reincarnated from his own recorded memories.

And Shep, best case scenerio, still gets to gasp in a pile od debris  

Only from his memories - it's not EXACTLY him coming back to life. 

It's close enough.