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[tonnactus]

C9316 wrote...

What in the hell was bioware smoking when they came up with Synthesis!? I don't even want any of that!

All endings have similarities with a bad lsd trip...

[element eater]

The tweet doesnt realy seem to imply that to me but who knows it is basicly just magic so anything is possible

DistantUtopia wrote...

Hmm...If Kenji came back as a Hologram, why can't Shepard?

LI Reunions all around!

i wouldnt count on that if shepards alive u still dont get one

[Gexora]

Ryzaki wrote...

Demoiselle wrote...

Gexora wrote...

Wait, wait, wait
How the hell does the tweet in question imply "Keiji is still alive" scenario?
It just clarifies what slide is one for Kasumi

BSN logic. 

Yeah how about you actually compare the slide to her control/destroy one before trying to be clever. She clearly uses holographic interfaces (as well as the actual greybox) every other time she interacts with the memories of Keiji. (and in both the control and destroy endings she's clearly holding the greybox while it glows as she interacts with the memories). There's little reason for Synthesis to be different [since Keiji's not an AI but merely a collection of memories with her along with a final message] (even EDI has a holographic interface covering her eyes as well as an actual black box her core is stored in.) Unless the hologram turned into something else.

You've GOT to be kidding me. I am not talking about how this slide implies Keiji is still alive - I am confused about this in my thread here: 
http://social.biowar...ndex/12812228/2 , especially since I have destroyed the frickin box.
What I am talking about is that this tweet does not in any way confirm that Keiji is alive. If I wanted to describe this slide, I would have said "Kasumi and Jeiji" too

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

So, does this mean that Shepard could be seen as alive too? Because, you know, everybody kind of received his copy in Synthesis?

TIM voice: "A significant hurdle". Shepard's thoughts and memories were dispersed. I've envisioned that at the time of Synthesis, various people all over the galaxy experience fragments of Shepard's thoughts and memories. I think a Shepard coming back scenario should stay strictly in headcanon territory. Impossible? No. Life is information after all. But plausible? In no way. 

 

Interesting perceptive.. on the whole Synthesis  deal. 

[Tazzmission]

Fox In The Box wrote...

cogsandcurls wrote...

Speak for yourself, I love Kasumi

And for the love of god, someone please upload this slide! Dying to see it, not willing to actually go do the Synthesis ending myself.

Since you asked nicely.

huh mauyybe i missed it in the video i watch but thats cool

[Ryzaki]

Gexora wrote...
You've GOT to be kidding me. I am not talking about how this slide implies Keiji is still alive - I am confused about this in my thread here: 
http://social.biowar...ndex/12812228/2 , especially since I have destroyed the frickin box.
What I am talking about is that this tweet does not in any way confirm that Keiji is alive. If I wanted to describe this slide, I would have said "Kasumi and Jeiji" too

You just linked me to a thread saying it's Keiji's ghost? Though LOL at this still happening if you destroyed the box. Then it can't even be fake AI him created from the memories it is space resurrection. LMAO

Though you're right the tweet doesn't flat out say it. The tweet plus the picture though...

Also don't see the relevance in the page you gave me. It's just a "lulz they did it in ME2!" quote.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2012 - 09:50 .

[Peranor]

More twitter reveals? I swear to anything that's holy the next Mass Effect game will play out entirely on Twitter...

[Ingvarr Stormbird]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I don't understand why people have a problem with this. All of Keiji's thoughts and memories had been stored in the greybox. It isn't a stretch to believe that he might come back to life in some way in a scenario where infomorphs are implied to exist. Easier to believe than Shepard's resurrection, actually, because Shepard was braindead and didn't have a greybox.

Really, people should apply some creative thinking to their SF universes before complaining that something is silly.

So, does this mean that Shepard could be seen as alive too? Because, you know, everybody kind of received his copy in Synthesis?

TIM voice: "A significant hurdle". Shepard's thoughts and memories were dispersed. I've envisioned that at the time of Synthesis, various people all over the galaxy experience fragments of Shepard's thoughts and memories. I think a Shepard coming back scenario should stay strictly in headcanon territory. Impossible? No. Life is information after all. But plausible? In no way. 

I think this will depend of what "dispersed" means. If it means that everybody gets a small bit of his memories, then yeah, not a chance - but will that make sense? What use will be if everybody gets one single unique bit of Shep's memory?
If "dispersed" means that everybody received a complete (or almost complete) copy of Shep's memories - his "VR revival" makes perfect sense. Well, no less sense than Keiji''s

[Fiery Phoenix]

Why am I not surprised?

We're obviously in a big disagreement with BioWare on this one. Move on. I'll stick to my Destroy.

[Ingvarr Stormbird]

Gexora wrote...
in my thread here: 
http://social.biowar...ndex/12812228/2 , especially since I have destroyed the frickin box.

Oh, don't be crankypants about that, surely you could've killed Rachni queen too
And surely another copy of graybox could've survived somewhere Thats BW way

[krukow]

What happens if you get Kasumi killed on the suicide mission? Does Keiji still come back?

Keiji romance DLC!!!

[Fiery Phoenix]

Marauder Shields would be most disappointed if he was brought back by Synthesis.

[Ender99]

I just had to laugh about this move from Bioware. Sad part is, I'm not even really surprised.

Synthesis, where dreams come true.

[TLK Spires]

just when you think this **** couldn't get anymore stupid and embarrassing.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

"Michael Gamble ‏@GambleMike

@wetnasty It was a quarian Kasumi should be with Keiji in synthesis."

I... fail to see how that actually says anything you say that it says. "Should" is not, in any way, a confirmation. It is a belief.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

That statement also doesn't say Keiji is actually alive in that slide (which I agree would be pretty ridiculous).

[Chrislo1990]

Wow are you serious Bioware?! Just ridiculous. In that case bring why not let Legion come back to life? Massive fail...

[Sylvianus]

Chrislo1990 wrote...

Wow are you serious Bioware?! Just ridiculous. In that case bring why not let Legion come back to life? Massive fail...

Legion is purely synthetic, while Keji is an organic memories that was stored in somewhat a holographic I.V. ..

...

XD, yeah, I'm just pointing out the difference.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 27 juin 2012 - 10:06 .

[Theodoro]

So since when does the sentence 'Kasumi is with Keiji in Synthesis' equals that Keiji's alive? For all you know, Gamble could have meant that Kasumi is with Keiji in the slide for Synthesis. Possibly with the advancement of technology the Graybox would allow Keiji to be projected, but I hardly believe that he's actually brought back to life. That's just ridiculous. Seriously, people are really trying to find more ways to attack BioWare.

[Sylvianus]

Please, think. Kasumi could be already projeted with Keiji thanks to the greybox in M2.

[LTKerr]

Never thought synthesis could be worse but at least thanks to the EC it's too damn obvious it is the most hilarious ending I've ever seen. Husks commiting suicide, pendrives being alive, silly green eyes... Thanks Bioware, now I'm not depressed about the endings, I'm actually laughing.

[darky00]

He didn't say "back to life", but yeah when i saw the pic, considering i didn't keep the grey box, really weird.

[Fox In The Box]

While it does look rather whacky, I'd hesitate with calling it a confirmation of Keiji being brought back to life without those actual words being used.

[Sylvianus]

Obviously, it would be foolish to use these words, even if there was a confirmation .... So i don't think anyone would confirm this like that.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 27 juin 2012 - 10:24 .

[Chrislo1990]

Sylvianus wrote...

Chrislo1990 wrote...

Wow are you serious Bioware?! Just ridiculous. In that case bring why not let Legion come back to life? Massive fail...

Legion is purely synthetic, while Keji is an organic memories that was stored in somewhat a holographic I.V. ..

...

XD, yeah, I'm just pointing out the difference.

Yes he is synthetic, but the synthesis ending goes both ways. Organic become more synthetic and syntheric become more organic. They become hybrids of each other sort of speak.

[llandwynwyn]

What the hell, Bioware. This makes no sense...does that means Shep VI can be alive as well?